ps3

[Seabiscuit]

anyone have one yet ive herd good things and would like some feed back can anyone help???

[6m$SexGod]

Yeh get an XBOX360 instead. haha

[Uganja]

got both, ps3 spends most of its life on standby.

It'll be better in a year or 2 when people start to make decent games for it

[Asshole]

actually at current rate of sales in 2-3 years all th ebig games companies will have boycotted it, get a 360 for now, a wealth of great games just been released and more to come

[Uganja]

and make games for the wii instead, right?
:roll:

Actually sparky, i think you'll find that sony recently halved the price of the development kit games companies need to make games..... in an effort to encourage more development teams to make some decent games, at a more competitive price than the 360

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7101791.stm

PS3 will have its day, just be patient

[Smash Bros]

ill get a ps3 in a year or so when the price has dropped a fuckload more :D

untill then ill stick with my pc and ps2. might buy a Wii though. not 100% on that one yet...

[Grendel]

If you have kids, get a Wii. They'll thank you for it, and you'll have a lot of fun playing games together.

[murda inc]

I have a 360 and am considering getting a ps3 but am in debate as to weather i will play it, have heard good and bad thing`s about it, and yeah i have not seen many games that i think i would enjoy on the ps3...

[KoRn]

and make games for the wii instead, right?
:roll:

Actually sparky, i think you'll find that sony recently halved the price of the development kit games companies need to make games..... in an effort to encourage more development teams to make some decent games, at a more competitive price than the 360

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7101791.stm

PS3 will have its day, just be patient
Microsoft did that with the XBox when it was released, well actually they made their dev kit free, you know what developers did with it? They used it to make PS2 games.
PS3 isn't worth getting for at least a year. Third party developers aren't using blue ray yet, they're porting DVD's. Plus Sony made a huge fuck up with the hardware, yeah it's got ALOT more processing power than the 360 but the graphics card and acelerator are only slightly better meaning it's producing practically the same amount of polygons, wasting most of its power.
Until v2 is released it's a waste of money.

[Uganja]

denied, the graphical capabilities are still far beyond that of the 360, because the graphics card isnt used to render as much as the processor's do the slave work for it... However, my knowledge of computer hardware is pretty limited so i could be wrong (it has happened before)

Regardless of which way you look at it, the ps3 is 1080p with blu ray, and the 360 isn't. Don't get me wrong, i love my 360.. its great, games are awesome, but i can already see a difference on my tv (because its trueHD) between the ps3 and the 360, and if thats with shit games, I can't wait to see when decent ones come out. *points finger at gta IV*

[Seabiscuit]

yea i cant wait till more come out on it but i was thinking about waiting intill v2 all game consoles suck the first go anyway i mean look at the ps2 the lens go out on them every 2 week lol ive had 3 then the v2 slim came out it was fine and when the x boxs came out it caught on fire because it would over heat but they fixed that

[Smash Bros]

ive been through about 5 ps2's lol.

[Seabiscuit]

ive been through about 5 ps2's lol.
thats cause the drives on them blow

[Smash Bros]

thats cause the drives on them blow

no its cause i either used them too much, got the shits and hit it, or someone else got the shits and hit it....

[Seabiscuit]

lmao

[Asshole]

denied, the graphical capabilities are still far beyond that of the 360, because the graphics card isnt used to render as much as the processor's do the slave work for it... However, my knowledge of computer hardware is pretty limited so i could be wrong (it has happened before)

Actually Its the other way round, The ps3 Has a graphics card that was outdated before the console was released.. a whole year ago

The ps3s graphics card can process 24 pixels with its 24 pipelines per "clock", the graphics card in the 360 can do double that in the same amount of time, the 360 also has unified shaders whereas the PS3 Has dedicated shaders,

Unified shaders are used in most major graphics cards nowadays, its been around for about a year on most gfx cards, the 360 was out well before then, dedicated shaders pretty much died out with the dinosaurs

The 360 graphics card has a memory bandwidth of 278.4 gbs, the ps3's is 22GBs/s

The 360 graphics card always runs at 100% capacity, whereas the ps3 does as its told,

Graphically the 360 is WAY superior

[Uganja]

maybe the ps3 just looks twice as good as the 360 on my tv, because i'm using 1080p for the PS3 and only 720 for the xbox.

Fucking bastards microsoft going to make me purchase an "Elite" now, just for the hdmi functionality :(

[Todd]

I have no clue about all the techniqualitys, all i can say is i've played both and the PS3 graphics are far better, in my opinion (Y)

[Buckledmac]

ive played both in full 1080P hd and to be honest couldnt tell the difference :$

[Asshole]

I have no clue about all the techniqualitys, all i can say is i've played both and the PS3 graphics are far better, in my opinion (Y)

Well they arn't.. due to the hardware, and ive only made half the comparison there

Edit: And to respond to uganjas "wait" for the ps3 games theory, you really think developers will pay a stupid amount for a dev kit, rather than get it for free, devolp exclusivley for a console which has less than half the units sold as its competitors ?

Answer no, and all multiconsole games are being made on x-box and ported, dev are also unhappy with blu-ray being forced upon them

[Uganja]

proof will be in the pudding, all you're doing is speculating



Opinions are like arseholes.... everyones got one ;)

(appropriate i felt)

[Asshole]

Im speculating on what will happenw ith the games yes, but why after san andreas did GTA decide they no longer wanted to be exclusive eh ? timed release on the playstations, devil may cry is gone, and hardly any games being produced for a console floundering in the market which takes twice as long to code for and has less than half the fan base..

saying its speculation is fine, but remember these guys are businessmen, and they will look to make the most money they can

i love you ps3 fanboys, you make me laugh, my brother is one of you, and he too is blinded by sonys ignorance and arrogance

[Uganja]

Im speculating on what will happenw ith the games yes, but why after san andreas did GTA decide they no longer wanted to be exclusive eh ? timed release on the playstations, devil may cry is gone, and hardly any games being produced for a console floundering in the market which takes twice as long to code for and has less than half the fan base..

saying its speculation is fine, but remember these guys are businessmen, and they will look to make the most money they can

i love you ps3 fanboys, you make me laugh, my brother is one of you, and he too is blinded by sonys ignorance and arrogance

bold is absolute bullshit.

underlined part is ridiculous, considering i own both consoles, which are sat comfortably in front of my TrueHD flatscreen... and i also owned a wii, but i sold it because it was shite.

Put that in your evaluation. Cunt ;)

[Buckledmac]

im sure i read somewhere that the reason GTA4 has been put back in the first place is because they're having trouble running it on the xbox360 because it isnt powerful enough for what they wont to do with the game :dunno:

[Red Dragon]

Well they arn't.. due to the hardware, and ive only made half the comparison there

Edit: And to respond to uganjas "wait" for the ps3 games theory, you really think developers will pay a stupid amount for a dev kit, rather than get it for free, devolp exclusivley for a console which has less than half the units sold as its competitors ?

Answer no, and all multiconsole games are being made on x-box and ported, dev are also unhappy with blu-ray being forced upon them

the GPU in ps3 is greater than 2 X 8800GTs
the cell processor has 8 cores

The best example is oblivion
on 360 it takes forever to load and the graphics even get choppy at times
on ps3 load times are way shorter and it never gets choppy

Edit: All the developers I have talked to love blue ray

[Asshole]

the GPU in ps3 is greater than 2 X 8800GTs
the cell processor has 8 cores

The best example is oblivion
on 360 it takes forever to load and the graphics even get choppy at times
on ps3 load times are way shorter and it never gets choppy

Edit: All the developers I have talked to love blue ray


Sorry but the ps3 graphics card is a 7800 GTS with half the ram, so i think not

And theres many threads debating which console oblivion looks best on, and its widely regarded as the 360, the load times are due to the 8 core processor, but a processor dosent have pixel pipelines or vertix shaders which are what makes the graphics, thats why it "performs" better on the ps3, but its still simply a port.

and the 8 core processor dosent even run as it should. especially seeing as knew PC games are only just using dual core proccessing and they are more advanced than console games..

And that uganja is why it takes a lot longer to code for, the ps3 has many smaller processors so that graphics engine hasto assign certain parts of games to certain cores, then bring it all back together, hence why it takes longer to code..

as for saying its not floundering.. if the ps3 was as good as the bullshit sony feed you how come it has only shipped 5.4 Million units compared to the 360's 12.7 Mill and the wiis 13.1 Mill ,

As for calling the wii shite, you obviousley buy the wrong games

[Red Dragon]

price thats the only reason

[Buckledmac]

Sorry but the ps3 graphics card is a 7800 GTS with half the ram, so i think not

And theres many threads debating which console oblivion looks best on, and its widely regarded as the 360, the load times are due to the 8 core processor, but a processor dosent have pixel pipelines or vertix shaders which are what makes the graphics, thats why it "performs" better on the ps3, but its still simply a port.

and the 8 core processor dosent even run as it should. especially seeing as knew PC games are only just using dual core proccessing and they are more advanced than console games..

And that uganja is why it takes a lot longer to code for, the ps3 has many smaller processors so that graphics engine hasto assign certain parts of games to certain cores, then bring it all back together, hence why it takes longer to code..

as for saying its not floundering.. if the ps3 was as good as the bullshit sony feed you how come it has only shipped 5.4 Million units compared to the 360's 12.7 Mill and the wiis 13.1 Mill ,

As for calling the wii shite, you obviousley buy the wrong games

beacause the 360 has been out 18mths longer? and not counting the 20mill PS2 fans that are waiting for the prices to come down :hehe:

[Asshole]

Again, no, if it was as good as sony had hyped it up to be, their programmers wouldent be leaving to do multi-platform work, If it had been as good as they said, i wouldent MIND paying that much, a few clever tricks and its actually a PC, but the fact of the matter is they appeal to hardcore gamers, hardcore gamers KNOW about hardware, they know what the kit is and they know how the systems work, thats why the 20mill PS2 fans havent bought one,

I bought a ps2 for:

GTA, 6 months after ps3 and its out on the 360
The dynasty warriors series, Multiplatformed since number 4
final fantasy, 13 will be exclusive, from there on in its multi consoled. plus you have the alternate series on the wii, which now has a larger dev team

They are the pretty much the only games i owned on the ps2,

WHat sells consoles is the exclusive releases, and right now the ps3 has very little to boast about, whos gonna buy a ps3 for call of duty 4 or assassins creed, when you can get it on the much cheaper 360, which has better hardware (excluding the "cell")

Thats why people have stayed away from it, dont delude yourselves with the fact of the price, there is no exclusives i would want on there at all

However as ive said previousley i much prefer my wii anyway, games are meant to be fun.. And it dosent get much more frun that strangling somebody on the godfather or holding them with one hand while you beat them with the bat in the other