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Smash Bros
5th December 2007, 05:52 PM
is it racist to state on a job you only want a black person (by their different names, Aboriginal, African american etc)???


and in response is it racist to state you only want a white person for a job??

Colonel Sanders
5th December 2007, 06:35 PM
Are you talking about an Owner hiring people or just like co-workers?

Either way that reminds me of this story I heard about this construction business owner who had all of his black employees and the very few white employees fired one day for seemingly no reason, and then hired all Hispanic dudes (all legal). His excuse was that they worked harder (in his words) and that as a result his production, compliments, referrals, and thus business has gone up tremendously.

I wouldn't say it is racist, I would say that it is simple fact in most communities. I know it is where I live.

Kloaked Spirit
5th December 2007, 07:07 PM
In America, making statements of that nature usually violate hiring discrimination statutes. If you're going to make qualifications like that for hiring (such as sex, race, etc.) then you'd have to prove how having that particular feature is an absolute necessity to the job (e.g. hiring women for an all nude female strip club.)

At the very least, if you advertise in that nature without a valid reason, you can open yourself up for some retard with a cheap lawyer attempting to slap you around with law suits.

Smash Bros
5th December 2007, 07:34 PM
yeah i meant as an owner hiring.

not me personally. but there are a fuckload of jobs here and most are for Aboriginals only.

it gets annoying when you need to find work and all you can find is shit kicker jobs cause alot are for teh Natives only.

fuck on Austar now there is a Native channel for teh Aboriginals cause they believe that they dont have enough time on tv.

Spork!!!
5th December 2007, 10:06 PM
It's called "reverse discrimination" and I know exactly what you mean muzza. Mind you, a hell of a lot of aboriginal people don't think they could do those jobs. In my experience it is the more motivated, smarter ones who do get them, which is how it should be, with the exception that the "Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islanders are encouraged to apply" translates to "no white fellas!".
I have a couple of Koori friends who get sweet gov't jobs all the time. I'm talking car and good pay to take a dozen teens fishing and 'birding [muttonbirding] on an island for 3 months with breaks back on the "mainland". As I said, they are smart and motivated, but the buggers do rub my nose in the fact that I needed a university education to earn as much as they do with garde 9. ;(

Smash Bros
5th December 2007, 10:22 PM
It's called "reverse discrimination" and I know exactly what you mean muzza. Mind you, a hell of a lot of aboriginal people don't think they could do those jobs. In my experience it is the more motivated, smarter ones who do get them, which is how it should be, with the exception that the "Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islanders are encouraged to apply" translates to "no white fellas!".
I have a couple of Koori friends who get sweet gov't jobs all the time. I'm talking car and good pay to take a dozen teens fishing and 'birding [muttonbirding] on an island for 3 months with breaks back on the "mainland". As I said, they are smart and motivated, but the buggers do rub my nose in the fact that I needed a university education to earn as much as they do with garde 9. ;(

see!!!

and people say that they are hard done by and shit.

yeah howard fucked up (again) with invading the NT yet again. its gonna be the same thing as the stolen generation. although after talking to some poeople in the Nt Dept of Education they reckon it is great.

so im a bit diveded on that :S

although they shouldt have that shit. they can apply for the same us. fuck i know some white people that could go hunting for 3 months and know more then alot of teh Aboriginals these days.

Vinay
6th December 2007, 09:04 AM
mind that.. this is only happening.. because in society they are no where... bad names and peoples look weird at them.. so how could they go to university and get educated when these things happens.. after all we took this country away from them..

to give them an fair chance in work field they are getting few jobs that are only for aboriginal peoples so they all can work together without any racist comments and so on...

its not like they are getting good jobs.. only alrite jobs to keep them alive and keep the family running


you can never compare your self with them... they have no manners...no respect for others.. they are basically low class families.. ..(mind its only majority of them... not all)

6m$SexGod
6th December 2007, 09:08 AM
In the Uk it cannot be donw, not to sure about anywhere else. It breaks the Race Relations Act 1976 i think. Not to sure though, i know its definelty illegal to specify a race you want to employ e.g. Aboriginals Only

Hope that helps!

Colonel Sanders
6th December 2007, 03:49 PM
In the Uk it cannot be donw, not to sure about anywhere else. It breaks the Race Relations Act 1976 i think. Not to sure though, i know its definelty illegal to specify a race you want to employ e.g. Aboriginals Only

Hope that helps!

Don't know about the U.S. but can't that be easily avoided as not being criminal anywhere? I mean sure on your applications or posters or some shit you wouldn't be able to say "no blacks hired" or something, buuuut that doesn't mean that you as an owner doesn't have to hire them, and just wait and/or search for Hispanics. Hope that makes sense?

Kloaked Spirit
7th December 2007, 12:10 AM
Don't know about the U.S. but can't that be easily avoided as not being criminal anywhere? I mean sure on your applications or posters or some shit you wouldn't be able to say "no blacks hired" or something, buuuut that doesn't mean that you as an owner doesn't have to hire them, and just wait and/or search for Hispanics. Hope that makes sense?

I think that if the company was very small they could probably get away with it. It'd be one thing if the 5-6 people you happened to hire "coincidently" were all blacks/hispanics/whites. It's going to become a lot more obvious if you start hiring 5-6 dozen like that though.

6m$SexGod
7th December 2007, 05:13 AM
Don't know about the U.S. but can't that be easily avoided as not being criminal anywhere? I mean sure on your applications or posters or some shit you wouldn't be able to say "no blacks hired" or something, buuuut that doesn't mean that you as an owner doesn't have to hire them, and just wait and/or search for Hispanics. Hope that makes sense?

Colonel i understand what you mean, and i also agree with what the man said. In theory it is illegal, but i suspect that it still goes on, nothing can be done about that though!

Calienta
7th December 2007, 10:38 AM
The Canadian government is getting crapped on because immigrants are angry that few of them get hired into public service ...

I think it has nothing to do with the colour of their skin, merely because either their french or english isn't sufficient (they need both), or they simply don't have the experience or expertise! Why SHOULD any company hire a minority just on the plain fact that they're a minority?

It really irks me that there is this group of immigrants raising hell because not enough of them are getting hired into the government, when if they were actually qualified for it, they would be.

Dopebeat's multi
10th December 2007, 02:29 PM
That's extremely racist, probably to the point where you could engineer a discrimination case against the people advertising.

Davecat
11th December 2007, 07:17 AM
In the Uk it cannot be donw, not to sure about anywhere else. It breaks the Race Relations Act 1976 i think. Not to sure though, i know its definelty illegal to specify a race you want to employ e.g. Aboriginals Only

Hope that helps!

In the UK it is perfectly legal to specify employee's by either race or sexual preference - as has been demonstrated in the uk police force for at least 4 years and still is today.