The Church

[Smash Bros]

Should the church stfu when it comes to movies???

they say shit is "anti-religious" yet some(not all) of their own priests fondle children.

discuss

[JaiJai]

Well when you say "The Church" , are you referring to Religion on a whole, or are you referring to a specific church and denomination?

Because different churches have their own rules per say... Some don't allow their congregation to watch anything above PG rating, some are against other Religious movies, because they may go against their own doctrines and may Sway it's followers, etc...

[Smash Bros]

Well when you say "The Church" , are you referring to Religion on a whole, or are you referring to a specific church and denomination?

Because different churches have their own rules per say... Some don't allow their congregation to watch anything above PG rating, some are against other Religious movies, because they may go against their own doctrines and may Sway it's followers, etc...

just the church in general.

for example they are saying not to watch the movie coming/new released The Golden Compass as it shows anti-religious themes and shit.

wow later in teh series it goes on to say that a human is challenging God himself to battle (best part is they win :D)

it is bassed on the trilogy His Dark Materials by Phillip Pullman

[JaiJai]

Yea I see what you're saying. Well I believe If you belong to a church, and they are trying to tell their people to avoid certain movies, and it's for a clear reason that is looking out for the best interest of the people... then I'd say a church has some sort of obligation to warn their flock.

When you say "the church" in general, and say some of their priests molest kids, I understand what you mean, but what a few of their priests do doesn't make the whole church corrupt, unless of course they don't kick these guys out and put them in prison etc..

If the church's intentions are in the right place when they warn their members about movies.. then I believe they have that right, but then let those members make their own choice AFTER the church gives it's view, and don't force it down their throats ya know.

That one church that doesn't allow it's members to even watch TV or movies at all, is going too far in my opinion though. I think there's a few churches that are that strict.. their members can't even play cards, dance or anything.. the church finds it worldly and immoral lol

[hoos]

Churches giving their opinion is fine. It's when their supposed outrage makes my news is when it goes too far. I'm sorry but you've had over a DECADE to complain about Phillip Pullman's ideas. Did all this happen when he won British Writer of the Year (I'm not sure of the real name of the award but that was it's purpose)?

I am a Christian and I don't understand the hubbub that surrounds movies and ideas that in most cases are ludicrous and could never happen (i.e. sci-fi movies, very fictional ideas, etc.) They are ideas expressed by others. People should be allowed to listen to other views besides yours. Very hypocritical in my opinion to claim that only your opinion matters when befriending your enemy was a prominent point of Jesus. Never makes sense to me when it happens.



Oh and hubbub is a real word lol. No red squiggly under it from Firefox.

[JaiJai]

LOL .. "no red squiggly under it" .. Cute Hoosie


I agree.. the church should be able to give guidance..that's what they're there for, but not dictate to it's members and force petty rules on them, such as movie selections. But ya know.. alot of ppl want that kind of fundamental structure.. they feel sacrifices like those are what leads to their immortality.

[Smash Bros]

well jaijai i did say not all priests do it. only reason i mentioned it was cause of a doco i just watched where a priest had raped/sexually assaluted little girls for over 40 years. the church said that if they moved him it would go away. it kept happening so they sent him back to the place he first started it. he was taken to court. he was going to be charged with 47 counts of rape but he was too old. he had i think double that amount of sexual assaults aswell. he was sentenced to 3 years in jail for it.

the church also gave made a settlement with 2 females who orginally complained about it adn said that they were not allowed to mention it ever again to anyone. pretty much buying their silence. the guy died 3 months after starting his sentence.


and with movies they usually go off about stupid shit. Narnia they complained about cause it said that the "god" of Narnia was a lion. that to them is heretical. The golden compass portrays the church as they were in the middle ages. a group of fanatics that went around killing those that didnt listen to them(eg scientists) and they were above the law. ive read the books a few times each now. doesnt make me believe any less in god(although i never had the believe in the first place).

fair enough saying in their own local church their views on teh movies. although have a go in the international news about a movie is taking it too far. if people are worried about what the movie shows(people like new flanders) they can go read reviews about teh books and the movie that is based on the books. if that doesnt make thier mind up they have thertical trailers to help show what the movie is about

[Colonel Sanders]

The reason religion will continue on a lot longer than it needs to is shit like this. Why debate a topic so fundamentally stupid that was created by people so stupid and keep it alive.

It's pretty pathetic but people don't even realize the effect when done in mass.

[Dymond]

Your 'The Church' isn't the same as my 'The Church' thats for sure. The Mormons have their own problems though, or at least Mitt seems to being one.

[chaoswolf]

and with movies they usually go off about stupid shit. Narnia they complained about cause it said that the "god" of Narnia was a lion. that to them is heretical. The golden compass portrays the church as they were in the middle ages. a group of fanatics that went around killing those that didnt listen to them(eg scientists) and they were above the law. ive read the books a few times each now. doesnt make me believe any less in god(although i never had the believe in the first place).




really what church was that, cause Narnia was suppose to be a children allegory and the lion/ Aslan was suppose to be Jesus. i find that quite odd that they were calling it heretical.

personally i take the as words of cation maybe i'll watch /read the books maybe i wont. but i do know this the condemned harry potter. and i agreed for a bit then i read it, man it was a damn good book.

[Smash Bros]

really what church was that, cause Narnia was suppose to be a children allegory and the lion/ Aslan was suppose to be Jesus. i find that quite odd that they were calling it heretical.

personally i take the as words of cation maybe i'll watch /read the books maybe i wont. but i do know this the condemned harry potter. and i agreed for a bit then i read it, man it was a damn good book.

the HP series was great.

i dont know what church. im assuming it came from the pope(or his little friends)

[hoos]

It's some Christian group is all I've read. It some far out bunch of bad apples group that fucks everything up. It's probably a group of 12 people that share one view and they have to make a huge deal about it.

C.S. Lewis was a Christian. He wrote many books about Christianity and I find it hilarious that people want to criticize him about Aslan as a lion? People really don't think when they get all worked up on their ideas do they?

[Dymond]

Yeah I was going to add that too. C. S Lewis was heavily religious and its obvious to pick up the christian allegory in his stories. It doesn't make them any less good though.

[Smash Bros]

Yeah I was going to add that too. C. S Lewis was heavily religious and its obvious to pick up the christian allegory in his stories. It doesn't make them any less good though.

the comparison between teh real life and the story with shit like that makes the stories better IMHO.

[Q80Thug]

i was annoyed a bit while watching it because it was shouting subliminally "authority is bad!" and "free thought is good" through out the whole movie. to me it was like a propaganda documentary rather than a fictional/fantasy movie. all stories portray messages and ideas within their lines and in my opinion there was no story at all in the golden compass just an idea to be passed using gypsies, witches and magic. but overall its was was nice to watch because not very often you get to see freaking talking polar bears with armor in movies these days.....:popcorn:

[Dymond]

Well it didn't do well at the box office so I guess its a moot point.

[Smash Bros]

true dy.

and the book was better then the movie IMHO. although i loved the fight between the polar bears :D

i had to download it though :P

[Dymond]

true dy.

and the book was better then the movie IMHO. although i loved the fight between the polar bears :D

i had to download it though :P

I got the Trilogy for my daughter for Christmas but I plan on reading it myself.