Potential Superbowl Shootings

[JaiJai]

read this first >> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/07/superbowl.gunfire.ap/index.html?cnn=yes


So... what do you think should happen to him?

Should there be any empathy for his mental state at the time?

How about his dilemma with not being allowed to open his own business because of unfair beauracracy?

What about the fact that he DIDN'T kill anyone and instead went and turned himself in? (while sobbing in agony and breaking down)


Or... is he just as guilty as if he had pulled the trigger? .. afterall, he DID make a plan and took steps and actions to carry out that plan, which is all you need in a court of law to prove "Mensrae" which is a legal term for "Criminal Intent".

Should he be sent to prison and punished for even Thinking such a thing and Almost doing it?

Or is he just simply a fed up and/or a mentally sick individual who needs psychiatric evaluation and treatment?

Discuss:

[The Last American Cowboy]

read this first >> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/07/superbowl.gunfire.ap/index.html?cnn=yes


So... what do you think should happen to him?

Should there be any empathy for his mental state at the time?

How about his dilemma with not being allowed to open his own business because of unfair beauracracy?

What about the fact that he DIDN'T kill anyone and instead went and turned himself in? (while sobbing in agony and breaking down)


Or... is he just as guilty as if he had pulled the trigger? .. afterall, he DID make a plan and took steps and actions to carry out that plan, which is all you need in a court of law to prove "Mensrae" which is a legal term for "Criminal Intent".

Should he be sent to prison and punished for even Thinking such a thing and Almost doing it?

Or is he just simply a fed up and/or a mentally sick individual who needs psychiatric evaluation and treatment?

Discuss:




First i believe he sould seek some serious medical attention. He did turn himself in, even though having the intent, still had enough moral values to not pull the trigger. Mens rea will only pursuade his laywers will make him pled insane.

It was unfair that he was denied a liqour liscence. If you have a dream, i believe nothing should stop you in doing so. They told us we can be anything we wanted when we grow up. Thats basically demolishing everything they taught us.

In my opinion, i think he should spend time; but also seek mental help. If he did pull the trigger; it would have been way worse then columbine.

[Pirate Hooker with Monkey]

A. He's not being charged with murder or even attempted murder at this point. The charge stands at "mailing threatening communications"

B. Being denied a liquor license happens a thousand times a year to many many people. It has nothing to to with the person or their planned establishment, but simply, every city or district is alloted a finite amount of liquor licenses that they can grant, and if his city was already at their limit, he would have to wait until someone declined to renew theirs or a business went under. It happens all the time. Clearly not unfair beauracracy.

Seems like a psych evaluation is in order and he should be institutionalized until it is determined that he is no longer a threat to himself or others.

[the squid of despair]

He was already given a mental examination and determined to be of sound mind, not sure how extensive it was. I'm sure he will face several other charges, i.e. weapons charges. I'm unsure if they found him with the weapons on the stadium grounds.

But as Maija said, The charge stands at "mailing threatening communications"

[hoos]

I'm wondering why he has not been charged with something such as premeditated attempted murder. I know that's not the term, or if it is something to be charged with. I understand he turned himself in and did not commit any of the acts, but I believe he should be charged with something. He should only get the minimum sentence though. I believe his subsequent apology and act of turning himself in warrants a light sentence, but is still worthy of jail.

If he is going to jail by other charges, I'm not sure as a DA that I would pile on the other charges though. I think we'd have to wait to see if he's charged with anything else.

Oh and Maij, he was denied the license because establishments around him didn't believe the location a good place for the bar. He was upset because people didn't want him to have it there, not because the city couldn't or he was unfit for it. Other people didn't like the rumored name (which was wrong) and therefore they pressured the city to not allow him to have is liquor license.

[Infidel]

what does it mean to be insane? who are you say someone is not normal? no one themselves can understand the human psyche fully. I don't see how people can be "insane" or mentally ill. what if its their way of communicating and WE'RE the ones unable to understand them.


read up on Thomas Szasz, smart man, doesn't exactly believe in psychology.


For the record im not on the guys side, i don't agree with what he was planning to do, just saying, declaring someone insane is not possible

[Mikey:)]

Sounds like attention seeking to me, once he realised he couldn't go through with it he still wanted everyone to know what he did and why he did it rather than just go home, keep his mouth shut and feel like a bit of a twat for awhile.

[Sir Mankalot]

read this first >> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/07/superbowl.gunfire.ap/index.html?cnn=yes


So... what do you think should happen to him?

Should there be any empathy for his mental state at the time?

How about his dilemma with not being allowed to open his own business because of unfair beauracracy?

What about the fact that he DIDN'T kill anyone and instead went and turned himself in? (while sobbing in agony and breaking down)


Or... is he just as guilty as if he had pulled the trigger? .. afterall, he DID make a plan and took steps and actions to carry out that plan, which is all you need in a court of law to prove "Mensrae" which is a legal term for "Criminal Intent".

Should he be sent to prison and punished for even Thinking such a thing and Almost doing it?

Or is he just simply a fed up and/or a mentally sick individual who needs psychiatric evaluation and treatment?

Discuss:

two peopel were shot in Peoria. one was a fireman veteran of 39. not sure about the other...i live in Glendale. so it got pretty crazy around here. i didnt even watch most of the game.:glare:

[Tca]

sorry, but can you REALLY judge someone for that?

Like yes, im not saying what he done was right, but i on more then one occasion took a gun and said i was gonna shoot cunts

the fact he didn't, says alot for his character IMO, no doubt he'll serve jail time though

[peddle07]

propoganda. vote republican!