Stop paying for FM

[demoncrat2024]

Tonight, Ganjadude, the FreeMarkets moderator indicated that he did not care about the premie turn-buyers by stating that if we do not like the way he runs things, we should just leave. Well, with Ganja as an Admin and Demonmistress as a moderator, there is no check on the rampant cheating by members of that "crew" which has been out of control since Jimmy James stopped modding Free Markets.

Well, since apparently we don't matter, and there's no real reason to attempt to pay to be ridiculed and marginalized. Hence, i will not pay for another FM turn as long as this powertrip continues, and I encourage others to do the same. Our money might not matter to ganja, but it will matter to Rit.

[spankme]

Well, with Ganja as an Admin and Demonmistress as a moderator, there is no check on the rampant cheating my members of that "crew" which has been out of control since Jimmy James stopped modding Free Markets.

Well, since apparently we don't matter, and there's no real reason to attempt to pay to be ridiculed and marginalized. Hence, i will not pay for another FM turn as long as this powertrip continues, and I encourage others to do the same. Our money might not matter to ganja, but it will matter to Rit.

haahha...thanks for confirming what we already knew -- you have spies/multies on sharks !!!

btw...what ganja said was that you should give it a chance, and barring that....if you want to leave to quit bitching or threatening to leave and just DO IT

ganjadude
people are suposedly goinna walk away because of a mod, who still hasnt evn accessed the mod panel, so we dont know how she will act yet yet everyone feels they know better. well you know what you dont, or jacx would have made you admin, but he didnt so that says something

give her a chance if she dont work out i got people lined up to take over that may be less controvercial, but im not gonna boot her now, and give you guys the satisfaction of being able to walk all over me

if you dont like it leave if you dont wanna leave just STFU about it
[Cycle 1724][Reply][Message][Hide][Ganjatreats Co.]

and

ganjadude
im going to bed, if you guys got any problems, take them up with your mods, im done with this entire discussion, if you wanna leave good riddence stop talking about leaving and leave

if not enjoy the game
[Cycle 1726][Reply][Message][Hide][Ganjatreats Co.]

[Johnee]

Cheating is Rampant. That much has been known for a while. If you do not cheat, and your team does not cheat, you cannot compete. Period. This is a sad reality of Free Markets these days. That said, Ganja is also correct in the fact we do not know how Demonmistress will do. Hell you never know she could end cheating on this site. But that said, Ganja needs to also pay attention to the fact that the concerns are 100% Legit. Demonmistress and her team have been hitting scores not even close to possible in a 2016 round game. Outdoing top Big Money all time scores even. This is retarded. The fact that Zonify, lestah and others completely played the favoritsm game is what is making everyone freak out so badly. And you can't blame em. Until we get a REAL moderator this will continue. Dopewars players should become FM moderators and vice versa. Otherwise Favoritism will NEVER go away.

Either way I will not be paying anymore money to this site until things calm down. One way or the other. (either everyone leaves, or the cheating stops)


ps. Ganja, your still my bro but tell me to watch my language again and ya can fuck yourself. :grin:

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

lmao funny thing is im on sharks and ihavent seen any cheating, just people who know how to pllay the game, why dont all the cry babies just play better instead of calling better players cheats cause they cnt do as good themselves

[demoncrat2024]

i want to birth ganjadude's children

you misconstrue a little to accuse me of cheating. Demonmistress invited me to Sharks, i didn't need and don't need "spies." It's a game, i really don't care that much. I'm just not going to pay to play a game that favors one group of players over others by design.

make up whatever quote you want, i'm tired, and have to get up and go to work at 6AM where I cannot log in during my lunch break because an overzealous admin has threatened to ban all proxy users.

[spankme]

you misconstrue a little to accuse me of cheating. Demonmistress invited me to Sharks, i didn't need and don't need "spies." It's a game, i really don't care that much. I'm just not going to pay to play a game that favors one group of players over others by design.

make up whatever quote you want, i'm tired, and have to get up and go to work at 6AM where I cannot log in during my lunch break because an overzealous admin has threatened to ban all proxy users.

I didnt misconstrue anything...u posted, I quoted exactly what you typed...and highlighted the best part. freudian slip on your part.

you wont stop using your spies/multies until site security is stepped up.

ban the proxies
only allow 1 account per game per household - no exceptions
force account verification
increase the length of the bans for cheating/using exploits and general screwing with the game

it all sounds awesome to me :)

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

ut ohhh hes gonna attack the server better be quiet spankme

demoncrat2024
no, that's it. I can teach you a trick on how to siphon bandwidth at 2GB a second.

[Infidel]

lmao funny thing is im on sharks and ihavent seen any cheating, just people who know how to pllay the game, why dont all the cry babies just play better instead of calling better players cheats cause they cnt do as good themselves

you can't tell when others are cheating unless you're a part of it or they tell you...

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

ok if im on team and i dnt see cheating then ow the fuck is some of you whiny ass bitches gonna know.. dont get mad cause the sharks hapen to be the best team at the moment

[Infidel]

ok if im on team and i dnt see cheating then ow the fuck is some of you whiny ass bitches gonna know.. dont get mad cause the sharks hapen to be the best team at the moment

cause we're not complete dumbasses and know the limits of the game. its like me playing dw. i have no fucking clue whats going on, i just follow the damn strat im given.

no sit down, shut up, and use your mod powers in the pit of despair

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

yep and funny how some of the top scores there in dopewars where called cheats and found out to be legit,, and wait wasnt the highest indivual score on fm last round not on the sharks but on whose team?


stop whining cause someone better than you at the fucking game...i mean shit if it bothers you so much just play something else instead of sounding like a lil whiny assclown

[Infidel]

yep and funny how some of the top scores there in dopewars where called cheats and found out to be legit,, and wait wasnt the highest indivual score on fm last round not on the sharks but on whose team?

well technically all the high scores ever except for brody were set by sharks players, if they weren't they were deleted. orishas 2 quadrillion score, my 257 trillion score, insains 60 billion and his 15 billion score.

i mean all of those are pretty damn high and were revoked. don't you see a bit-o favoritism? if they can cheat why can't we?

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

well damn go right barrack obama or your congressman or get the goverment oversight commitee to have a hearing on cheating on a 2 bit internet game.. get over it, you dont like it there is 60 trillion other games on the net.. now move on

[Infidel]

well damn go right barrack obama or your congressman or get the goverment oversight commitee to have a hearing on cheating on a 2 bit internet game.. get over it, you dont like it there is 60 trillion other games on the net.. now move on

how about you just agree that you dont' know enough about FM to make a statement on who is and isn't cheating

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

how bout you just agree if it makes you so fucking upset that you constantly bitch bout cheaters that you should just play something that will make you happy, ok sweetheart

[Infidel]

how bout you just agree if it makes you so fucking upset that you constantly bitch bout cheaters that you should just play something that will make you happy, ok sweetheart

now that i will agree with

[Jacx]

Tonight, Ganjadude, the FreeMarkets moderator indicated that he did not care about the premie turn-buyers by stating that if we do not like the way he runs things, we should just leave. Well, with Ganja as an Admin and Demonmistress as a moderator, there is no check on the rampant cheating by members of that "crew" which has been out of control since Jimmy James stopped modding Free Markets.

Well, since apparently we don't matter, and there's no real reason to attempt to pay to be ridiculed and marginalized. Hence, i will not pay for another FM turn as long as this powertrip continues, and I encourage others to do the same. Our money might not matter to ganja, but it will matter to Rit.


Well let me clarify something eh.

I care about premis and the turn buyers...were investing over $10 k right now in the site and that dont include the new coder.

So don't tell me that we don't care.

Secondly

"Ganja as an Admin and Demonmistress as a moderator, there is no check on the rampant cheating by members of that "crew" which has been out of control since Jimmy James stopped modding Free Markets."

Really? and what leads you to that?

Im watching everyone, all the staff and the players...don't assume anything right now!

As i said in another thread, WAIT..give someone a damn chance before u all run ur mouths off, i could pick 20 people to mod this site and there will always be someone unhappy for some reason!

Point is till someones given that chance, u cannot assume shit!

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

im unhappy... i ran out of miracle whip

[demoncrat2024]

Well let me clarify something eh.

I care about premis and the turn buyers...were investing over $10 k right now in the site and that dont include the new coder.

So don't tell me that we don't care.


That's fine, I don't pay for goods and services that I suspect will be of an inferior quality. You may have a differing opinion, but for the same reason that I'll pay double at Macy's instead of shopping at Wal-Mart, I will pay at other sites instead of paying at this one. Until quality is proven, why should a site be given the benefit of the doubt? Especially now that the game in question is run by someone whose roommate is a known cheater.

Secondly

"Ganja as an Admin and Demonmistress as a moderator, there is no check on the rampant cheating by members of that "crew" which has been out of control since Jimmy James stopped modding Free Markets."

Really? and what leads you to that?

the fact that BLUESPARK, ganjadude's ROOMMATE is the person who introduces 90% of the coding "features" that result in impossible scores. And it's acceptable for him to amass the impossible quantity of 250 million cigarettes and sell them. But when another player used that feature to beat Sharks, it became a problem and Ganja immediately knew how it was done and it was fixed. When BLUESPARK told him about it.

Im watching everyone, all the staff and the players...don't assume anything right now!

As i said in another thread, WAIT..give someone a damn chance before u all run ur mouths off, i could pick 20 people to mod this site and there will always be someone unhappy for some reason!

Point is till someones given that chance, u cannot assume shit!

Jacx, i've been here for over 18 months. I have not received a single response from customer service in that time, i have not received a single response to any message that I have sent directly to you (though the ones to you are very few and very far between). Why would I assume that this systematic lack of customer service would stop. Furthermore, since Ganja was made a mod, he has disappeared because of a computer issue (mind you, his ROOMMATE has one he could have checked in on), The Sharks have seen unconstrained scores, and Spankme and Bluespark act as though they run the place. And if someone disagrees with them or calls them out on it, he bans them.

[Ganjadude For Prez!]

power trip... i love it, didnt think of that til you gave me the idea, maybe i will start one up......


/retards

as for the issues of me "finding bugs that blue points out"


if you other people would point them out to me, than i can do something about it. you dont know how many bugs i have fwd. to treadon over the past 5 months, some blue pointed out to me others infidel pointed out to me a few other players help me with bugs. If no one tells me than i cant do anything about it plain and simple.


johnee, thanks for your words, im glad that you have the decency to give demon a chance before you harp on her i still wish you would have taken the job as well but what can i do

[Infidel]

as for the issues of me "finding bugs that blue points out"


if you other people would point them out to me, than i can do something about it. you dont know how many bugs i have fwd. to treadon over the past 5 months, some blue pointed out to me others infidel pointed out to me a few other players help me with bugs. If no one tells me than i cant do anything about it plain and simple.



if you say i helped you with one more thing for the betterment of this site, i can't be held accountable for what i do next...

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

That's fine, I don't pay for goods and services that I suspect will be of an inferior quality. You may have a differing opinion, but for the same reason that I'll pay double at Macy's instead of shopping at Wal-Mart, I will pay at other sites instead of paying at this one. Until quality is proven, why should a site be given the benefit of the doubt? Especially now that the game in question is run by someone whose roommate is a known cheater.



the fact that BLUESPARK, ganjadude's ROOMMATE is the person who introduces 90% of the coding "features" that result in impossible scores. And it's acceptable for him to amass the impossible quantity of 250 million cigarettes and sell them. But when another player used that feature to beat Sharks, it became a problem and Ganja immediately knew how it was done and it was fixed. When BLUESPARK told him about it.



Jacx, i've been here for over 18 months. I have not received a single response from customer service in that time, i have not received a single response to any message that I have sent directly to you (though the ones to you are very few and very far between). Why would I assume that this systematic lack of customer service would stop. Furthermore, since Ganja was made a mod, he has disappeared because of a computer issue (mind you, his ROOMMATE has one he could have checked in on), The Sharks have seen unconstrained scores, and Spankme and Bluespark act as though they run the place. And if someone disagrees with them or calls them out on it, he bans them.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaaaaaaa my 2 year old dont whine this much

point is if you dont like it just stfu and go play something else

[Jacx]

That's fine, I don't pay for goods and services that I suspect will be of an inferior quality. You may have a differing opinion, but for the same reason that I'll pay double at Macy's instead of shopping at Wal-Mart, I will pay at other sites instead of paying at this one. Until quality is proven, why should a site be given the benefit of the doubt? Especially now that the game in question is run by someone whose roommate is a known cheater.

And thats fair enough for u to wait to see that changes are gonna happen, i got no argument with that..thats common sence, however whats that got to do with people stopping what they might be doing?

Secondly roommate is a cheater..i dont know that..and if that is the case, poor ganja is gonna have to be double on his toes watching whats what in the games is he not?



the fact that BLUESPARK, ganjadude's ROOMMATE is the person who introduces 90% of the coding "features" that result in impossible scores. And it's acceptable for him to amass the impossible quantity of 250 million cigarettes and sell them. But when another player used that feature to beat Sharks, it became a problem and Ganja immediately knew how it was done and it was fixed. When BLUESPARK told him about it.

coding features...u have to explain that one! if ur on about the trick about amounting a massive amount of turns etc..i learned that trick elsewhere and had it fixed myself just last week!

Jacx, i've been here for over 18 months. I have not received a single response from customer service in that time, i have not received a single response to any message that I have sent directly to you (though the ones to you are very few and very far between). Why would I assume that this systematic lack of customer service would stop. Furthermore, since Ganja was made a mod, he has disappeared because of a computer issue (mind you, his ROOMMATE has one he could have checked in on), The Sharks have seen unconstrained scores, and Spankme and Bluespark act as though they run the place. And if someone disagrees with them or calls them out on it, he bans them.

Yep, customer service is total crap here..utter crap..hence im investing in a sitewide and fully manned customer service application.

as for ganja being a mod..nothing he can access can affect the scores...so whats the connection?

[insainbrane]

Its multie smoke makers mostly that I question that the very person Ganja just made mod seems to have. Thats my concern. Not mods tweaking anything, just turning a blind eye to 4-5 smoke makers who get on at the same time and all get off, always conveniently just for the sharks. Noone ever catches their drops but them either, and all of this is not possible without the smoke makers. Its the new way to cheat. If you got the smokes, you own the market. The more you dump on it, the higher The market goes for you, and the next people who dump cigs are innefective and get half the boost, so its a double whammy. Demoncrat, Johnee, and a whole host of others have witnessed this, especially since JJ left. This is our concern. We all know ganjas not going to tweak scores and shit, but would he say anything if he ever caught his roommate cheating? More importantly, would The mother of this guy say anything? This is whats so confusing to most I believe.

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

its called communication.. you know how hard it would be to have 3 or 5 accounts run by same person drop quick enough and it not be caught... maybe hsarks are just smart enough that they dont do same drop times and have a team that communicates..

its not really hard to get 5 people online at same time

but what does it matter you and your friends leaving this game anyway

[insainbrane]

its called communication.. you know how hard it would be to have 3 or 5 accounts run by same person drop quick enough and it not be caught... maybe hsarks are just smart enough that they dont do same drop times and have a team that communicates..

its not really hard to get 5 people online at same time

but what does it matter you and your friends leaving this game anyway

One person can run two easily, and another run the other two, combine that with two real smoke makers running the two a piece, thats only two people you need to be on to have 6 smoke makers which give you sick drops, each and every time. theres a 94 billion round tp prove it.

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

its just as eazy to get 6 individuals on at same time for drops if there is good communication.. im not being a smartass but dont you thik thats at all possible to have 5-6 individuals on and drop at same time?

[insainbrane]

its just as eazy to get 6 individuals on at same time for drops if there is good communication.. im not being a smartass but dont you thik thats at all possible to have 5-6 individuals on and drop at same time?

Its not that easy, sounds easy, but ask anyone thats played with us or on any other team, its next to impossible to achieve this each and every time. I got good friends I talk to on the phone who live all over the country and theres no way to get all of them on at one time, much less anyone else. Youll see, go play with other companys. I can scedule drops, ask when people are gonna be on, whatever, doesnt matter. People have work, school, bf/gf's, dogs, cats, kids, etc. Theres no way ya get a 6 man cig drop 3 times a week, week in and week out, Period. Now they can run all the cig makers they want and noones gonna say shit, just like now, but worse.

[Blindj]

Its not that easy, sounds easy, but ask anyone thats played with us or on any other team, its next to impossible to achieve this each and every time. I got good friends I talk to on the phone who live all over the country and theres no way to get all of them on at one time, much less anyone else. Youll see, go play with other companys. I can scedule drops, ask when people are gonna be on, whatever, doesnt matter. People have work, school, bf/gf's, dogs, cats, kids, etc. Theres no way ya get a 6 man cig drop 3 times a week, week in and week out, Period. Now they can run all the cig makers they want and noones gonna say shit, just like now, but worse.

you need more involved players

[demoncrat2024]

its called communication.. you know how hard it would be to have 3 or 5 accounts run by same person drop quick enough and it not be caught... maybe hsarks are just smart enough that they dont do same drop times and have a team that communicates..

its not really hard to get 5 people online at same time

but what does it matter you and your friends leaving this game anyway

Really easily actually. 10 firefox tabs logged into 10 proxies, load up the page and quantities at the start of the cycle and 2 secs before drop time, you just go across the tabs "Click, Enter" "Click, Enter" and it'd take between 5-10 seconds total to drop them all. Not rough at all. An interesting comment considering every sharks drop comes in stages with equal delays between drops over a period of 10-15 secs.

That's ok though, that too will be fixed soon by Ganja. I'm simply noting that defending something through naivity may not be the best idea. Especially when Sharks initially gave m e the idea to pre-load the pages.

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

thats way to much work... i can vouch cause i know on our drop last night we had 9 of the main company on and i personally had 5 cig makers on my msn.. and our drops dont take 10-15 seconds its usually within 2 or 3 refreshes that everyone drops, now try your theory and see if you can do all that within 2-3 seconds

and honestly if your just constantly gonna complain bout cheating when it isnt going on and complain bout all the mods, why doyou play the game if it makes you so unhappy? serious question here

and what does it matter anyway since the sharks are no longer playing..shit demon even pulled her account from sharks last night so noone would complain bout her doing anything illegal

[Infidel]

lol you can easily make 10 people drop under 5 seconds. you forget the whole control+tab feature as well demon. and if you're quick enough, it actually looks simultaneous

[insainbrane]

lol you can easily make 10 people drop under 5 seconds. you forget the whole control+tab feature as well demon. and if you're quick enough, it actually looks simultaneous

Now the very team we all know whos been doing this have complete admin and mod control of FM. Even if they continue to do it, nobodys gonna say anything about it.

[Infidel]

Now the very team we all know whos been doing this have complete admin and mod control of FM. Even if they continue to do it, nobodys gonna say anything about it.

lol idc if they do. im just dissappointed that their beliefs dont fall in line with mine on how to make the site more fun

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

Now the very team we all know whos been doing this have complete admin and mod control of FM. Even if they continue to do it, nobodys gonna say anything about it.

what the team that has good communication amongst its players thats not even playing anymore after last round? and why are you still concerned you left with all your freinds to play something else, remember?

also ganja and demonmistress arent even playing so i dont understand anyones complaint..

[fire]

cause we're not complete dumbasses and know the limits of the game. its like me playing dw. i have no fucking clue whats going on, i just follow the damn strat im given.

no sit down, shut up, and use your mod powers in the pit of despair

i will never get a premi again til the cheaters are out of power...


and you are doin very well in DW..you will get even better when you tweek the strat to fit you better.

lovin u

[Ganjadude For Prez!]

Its not that easy, sounds easy, but ask anyone thats played with us or on any other team, its next to impossible to achieve this each and every time. I got good friends I talk to on the phone who live all over the country and theres no way to get all of them on at one time, much less anyone else. Youll see, go play with other companys. I can scedule drops, ask when people are gonna be on, whatever, doesnt matter. People have work, school, bf/gf's, dogs, cats, kids, etc. Theres no way ya get a 6 man cig drop 3 times a week, week in and week out, Period. Now they can run all the cig makers they want and noones gonna say shit, just like now, but worse.

it is easy all you do is watch the market at times you drop, find players who are ALWAYS on at that time and recruit them, its very simple to get a lineup of people who are on at the time you want them to be if you dont care about having your friends on your team



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as for this fire, its not because of a "cheater" its because you were off topic, which is what im suposed to do.... your getting annoying as fuck when it comes to me doing my job...

[Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream]

your doing a swell job ganja.... i for one applaud you..

i wonder who the other cheaters are she is talking bout... i thought only 1 was a cheater...

on side note that bitch really needs a hobby or sumptin

[yakky]

Well let me clarify something eh.



As i said, i could pick yakky to mod this site and there will always be someone happy for some reason!!

i think this is what he ment to say, lol

and i gladly accept it

[Infidel]

i think this is what he ment to say, lol

and i gladly accept it

your time will come... your time will come