Vote 08

[Gully Knuckles]

so who's it gone be

[Gully Knuckles]

I see huckabee got some support here

[tftmc]

Well I personally strongly support Ron Paul, despite the statistical impossibility, but I honestly think it's gunna be a black hawaiian...people want "change." and Barrack Obama certainly spits enough rhetoric to seem like he's a change, but he's nothing but a Politician.

But he's gunna win, unless the republicans rig the elections again, but Karl Rove is out....although he is always just a phone call away, and they have many past elections to go by, much experience they have. But Still i wish at the general election everyone put a fill in ballot for Ron Paul....it would be America's best hope.

[Gully Knuckles]

Well I personally strongly support Ron Paul, despite the statistical impossibility, but I honestly think it's gunna be a black hawaiian...people want "change." and Barrack Obama certainly spits enough rhetoric to seem like he's a change, but he's nothing but a Politician.

But he's gunna win, unless the republicans rig the elections again, but Karl Rove is out....although he is always just a phone call away, and they have many past elections to go by, much experience they have. But Still i wish at the general election everyone put a fill in ballot for Ron Paul....it would be America's best hope.

I cant provide a opinion on him at this point since I never heard of him or did I????Is he the guy they said cost all gore the election on 2000 by getting 3 percent of the vote????

[Grendel]

Wasn't that Ralph Nader, Knuckles? Not sure, maybe you're right...

[Canadiana]

Well I personally strongly support Ron Paul, despite the statistical impossibility, but I honestly think it's gunna be a black hawaiian...people want "change." and Barrack Obama certainly spits enough rhetoric to seem like he's a change, but he's nothing but a Politician.

But he's gunna win, unless the republicans rig the elections again, but Karl Rove is out....although he is always just a phone call away, and they have many past elections to go by, much experience they have. But Still i wish at the general election everyone put a fill in ballot for Ron Paul....it would be America's best hope.

Count 'em up. 5 but's. Most of which are unnecessary. I think Obama is going to win it. Mostly cause he wants to pull out of Iraq though. People want to see change and he's giving it. His colour will only strengthen racial groups though. There will probably be attempts on his life if he either wins the election or before final day when it's announced.

[Grendel]

I count 6... :P

[Canadiana]

Ack so do I. I missed 1 in my initial count.

[TraPStaR]

i like McCain

to bad someone who made this poll cant spell his name... sad.

[Johnee]

Here's my problem, and mark my words in 3 years I'll be right. Obama will win, but the problem with obama is he is a bush clone. republican in democrats clothing. He will be controled by the same large companies and will lead america in the same direction as Bush is now. Only thing Obama will do is a fast withdrawal from Iraq causing a bigger problem over there then before. He will push the govt. so far right wing we might as well have a pope in office, and he's not even black. He has one half black parent and he's running around like he's James Brown! Most of his speeches come from the Reagan school of confusion and to top all that off, he's only going to win due to total lack of competition. This country is fucked.


But on a bright note! Few more elections like this one and eventually the American people will start paying attention. (if they can even afford to by that point)

[Chrono_Shark]

nader. he's bound to win eventually.

[ch33s3]

i like McCain

to bad someone who made this poll cant spell his name... sad.

are you conservative or liberal?

[SeanPatrick]

But on a bright note! Few more elections like this one and eventually the American people will start paying attention. (if they can even afford to by that point)

you would think the american people would of started paying more attention from the last 2 elections

[doublethink]

Obama, all the way, his record of actually getting shit done speaks for itself, despite being part of the washington machine.

[stalin]

You should have added the options "Who gives a damn" "Not Voting" "Not American."

[Sir Brian]

Fuck it bring Brian Clough back from the dead, then night the legend. Then appoint him president of the western world.

wiki him. Brian is the bollox!

[Grendel]

i like McCain

to bad someone who made this poll cant spell his name... sad.

Fixed that for you... No need to thank me. :grin:

[Calyxo]

.............. This country is fucked.


...........

But we're still a lot less fucked than we are now.

We're just stuffing a smaller gas can up our asses with no lube.

[ch33s3]

actually we are fucked royaly :unf: :sheeplove:
But we're still a lot less fucked than we are now.

We're just stuffing a smaller gas can up our asses with no lube.

[Gully Knuckles]

Wasn't that Ralph Nader, Knuckles? Not sure, maybe you're right...

might have been Im not sure to tell you the truth all those underdog types just remind me of ross perot I say If theres no chance at all you can win then why bother running

[Don Gargon]

I like Obama and McCain. Clinton scares me... she is Bush 3.0 Huckabee is not up to it. Obama and McCain want change McCain is just too inspired by the late great L Ron Hubbard of politics... Regan

[hectorkato]

Huck for me i have to agree though obama will win. Hope i am wrong think he might mess shit worse than Bush look at Ill.

[scissorknot]

I tend to lean towards Clinton but highly doubt she will get the Democratic nomination.

[Gully Knuckles]

I like Obama and McCain. Clinton scares me... she is Bush 3.0 Huckabee is not up to it. Obama and McCain want change McCain is just too inspired by the late great L Ron Hubbard of politics... Regan

actually mcain is bush their both republicans share lots of the ideas and ideals and not only did bush endorse mcains camping he also speaks very highly of him

[Don Gargon]

actually mcain is bush their both republicans share lots of the ideas and ideals and not only did bush endorse mcains camping he also speaks very highly of him

Gully, both Bushes are from the Regan era camp; he is the Great Republican all aspire to be. Have you not heard ALL the republican candidates trying to show who is most Regan like?

Sorry Hector, being from Indiana... you really have no room to talk about any state's flaws, except Alabama (they might be more backwards and country). Further, name 1 problem out in IL you can blame Obama for...

[CRAZYCOOTER]

[QUOTE=tftmc;196196]Well I personally strongly support Ron Paul, despite the statistical impossibility

I totally agree, he seems to have the best plan, but since he hasn't been bought off he doesn't have the support the other canidates do

[Gully Knuckles]

Gully, both Bushes are from the Regan era camp; he is the Great Republican all aspire to be. Have you not heard ALL the republican candidates trying to show who is most Regan like?

Sorry Hector, being from Indiana... you really have no room to talk about any state's flaws, except Alabama (they might be more backwards and country). Further, name 1 problem out in IL you can blame Obama for...

Im a little uncomfortable with obamas middle name

[Don Gargon]

Im a little uncomfortable with obamas middle name

Other than that episode of "Scared Straight" when the guy said he likes his salad tossed with jelly... that might be the gayest thing I have ever heard.

Wtf does his middle name have to do with how he would lead? Would he be better if his middle name was Gamaliel or Knox? Come on! this is America! We are a nation of vast backgrounds known to come together and blow shit up just to make a point! You are not scared of a name! Not with a kick ass name like Gully Knuckles!

[gundamcat]

I will be voting for McCain. I like his stance on the military and well most things. I try to stay up to date with the information just have recently. Only thing I didn't like about him was that a while back he trying to ban video games because were "violent" haha.

[TraPStaR]

are you conservative or liberal?

personally i am a republican that agrees very much so on both views that are liberal and conservative. so i would say im a middle man with both views.

Fixed that for you... No need to thank me. :grin:

thank you G-dizzle!

[Gully Knuckles]

Other than that episode of "Scared Straight" when the guy said he likes his salad tossed with jelly... that might be the gayest thing I have ever heard.

Wtf does his middle name have to do with how he would lead? Would he be better if his middle name was Gamaliel or Knox? Come on! this is America! We are a nation of vast backgrounds known to come together and blow shit up just to make a point! You are not scared of a name! Not with a kick ass name like Gully Knuckles!

Do you know what his middle name is???

[Don Gargon]

yeah, Hussein. I get where you are going with that... but shouldn't you be more worried about the people who put the most notorious Hussein in power? Well, first his cousin, then him. Especially since they are currently in power?

Common, I know it was recent and we all smoke and drink too much (combined with out ADHD) to remember past 2001, but Hippies have atack us more than Muslims! I know we have to blame and outcast someone and the more different the better, but the #1 terrorist subgroup in America is Conservative WASP's.

So statistically, you should be more concerned if his middle name was John, Hurbert, or Alan.

[KidA1337]

Clinton is going to win
Im going for Obama

[Gully Knuckles]

yeah, Hussein. I get where you are going with that... but shouldn't you be more worried about the people who put the most notorious Hussein in power? Well, first his cousin, then him. Especially since they are currently in power?

Common, I know it was recent and we all smoke and drink too much (combined with out ADHD) to remember past 2001, but Hippies have atack us more than Muslims! I know we have to blame and outcast someone and the more different the better, but the #1 terrorist subgroup in America is Conservative WASP's.

So statistically, you should be more concerned if his middle name was John, Hurbert, or Alan.

I just don't feel comfortable electing someone into office that got their education in the middle east and is named hussein

[doublethink]

Wow ignorance abound. Hussien is an equivilant to james in MANY parts of the world, and Obama went to a school with people of various religions in KENYA, alongside christians, muslims, and even a couple buddhists. He was not raised Muslim(although that shouldnt have to matter anyways).

I meant indonesia instead of kenya

[Gully Knuckles]

Wow ignorance abound. Hussien is an equivilant to james in MANY parts of the world, and Obama went to a school with people of various religions in KENYA, alongside christians, muslims, and even a couple buddhists. He was not raised Muslim(although that shouldnt have to matter anyways).

actually it should matter at a point when Muslims want to see America wiped of the face of the planet

[doublethink]

The nature of war is to demonize the associations, including race, gender, and religion of your enemy. most muslims just want to be left alone and steer clear of all this crap.

[j_dogg42065]

McCain will win. I voted huckabee but he's all but dropped out. There's no way in HELL anyone would EVER elect another clinton into office. She's gettin spanked up and down the map by osama, oh my bad, i mean obama. I don't hardly see hillary making it past the next debate. But obama has some GREAT ideas, although it will cost entirely too much money to enforce them. He wants to tax every single company/business who doesn't have a negative carbon string, so every single business that produces any kind of pollution will get a hefty fine. For god's sake, the local super market has meinute traces of pollution! Besides, it's extremely unethical to have a black presedent at this day and age. Maybe in another 100 years or so. So McCain will be elected. God knows we don't need anymore democrats in office!!

[Cassius]

actually it should matter at a point when Muslims want to see America wiped of the face of the planet


I guess u believe Saddam had something to do with 9/11 also?

[Gully Knuckles]

I guess u believe Saddam had something to do with 9/11 also?

nO i DONT BUT i DO BELIEVE MOST OF THE MIDDLE EAST HATES US AND ANYONE THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM DOESN'T BELONG IN OFFICE

[doublethink]

They hate us because we stick our huge nose into their business....we get it out of their business and it decreases the chance of anything actually REALLY going wrong

[Gully Knuckles]

They hate us because we stick our huge nose into their business....we get it out of their business and it decreases the chance of anything actually REALLY going wrong

I understand that I just dont feel barack is rite for the job no matter what he just doesn't have enough momentum no one knew who he was before he started his run for president

[Don Gargon]

I don't want to call you people idiots but you really make it hard not to. Ok, read something other than what is given to you. J... you are just sad, ironic, but sad. Gully, Obama has been on the major seen since speaking at the DNC in 2004. Thats when EVERY major player in the political scene sat up and took notice. Before that he was well known... YOU just didn't know who he was.

I guess I am just as ignorant because I cannot seem to understand how people still think the way some people do... oh yeah... J, if you feel that way about anyone affiliated with the Middle East... stop voting for the wannabe Reganites... thats the regime that is buddy and creator to the last 7 major dictators who "threatened American way of life" of which 5 were from Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia.

I would challenge either of you to voice an opinion that reflects knowldge of more than fear. Muslims do not hate you... there are Muslim people, Christian, Isreali, and Atheists who sll hate what America has come to stand for... and what we (by virtue of our elections and rhetoric) support. If you knew the truth and have a soul, you would see why... disagree but see.

[coalition]

Not even exercising my right to vote on this election. None of them are better then the other. Just different figureheads, that will word their bullshit differently.

[Gully Knuckles]

Not even exercising my right to vote on this election. None of them are better then the other. Just different figureheads, that will word their bullshit differently.

I think you should vote no matter what you might think about the andidates this country cant afford to have another republican in office and it hurts me to say it being that Im a conservative

[coalition]

I think you should vote no matter what you might think about the andidates this country cant afford to have another republican in office and it hurts me to say it being that Im a conservative

Hillary Is'nt worth a flip, Barrack needs to run for governor or something, not head chief. And i would'nt trust them republicans far as i could throw them. So I'm not voting.

[Ricecracker420]

Anything but another republican
PLEASE!

[gundamcat]

Hillary Is'nt worth a flip, Barrack needs to run for governor or something, not head chief. And i would'nt trust them republicans far as i could throw them. So I'm not voting.

So your going to not bitch about who the new President is? Considering the fact you will not vote you don't or shouldn't get a say in it. Bitching is fine as long as you vote.

[coalition]

So your going to not bitch about who the new President is? Considering the fact you will not vote you don't or shouldn't get a say in it. Bitching is fine as long as you vote.

Nope, could care less which of the lesser evils get's it.

[Mike]

I'm not voting either. I understand that I give up my right to bitch about who the new president is, but by not voting I can not take any responsibility for putting a shitty president into office ( I think all the candidates suck ass) For all I care they can put Mickey Mouse in office. He Can't possibly do any worse of a job as the current candidates are going to do in office.

[Jimmy James]

Nope, could care less which of the lesser evils get's it.

you should vote if for no other reason but to cancel out one of these 2 idiots' votes...



Im a little uncomfortable with obamas middle name

I just don't feel comfortable electing someone into office that got their education in the middle east and is named hussein

McCain will win. I voted huckabee but he's all but dropped out. There's no way in HELL anyone would EVER elect another clinton into office. She's gettin spanked up and down the map by osama, oh my bad, i mean obama. I don't hardly see hillary making it past the next debate. But obama has some GREAT ideas, although it will cost entirely too much money to enforce them. He wants to tax every single company/business who doesn't have a negative carbon string, so every single business that produces any kind of pollution will get a hefty fine. For god's sake, the local super market has meinute traces of pollution! Besides, it's extremely unethical to have a black presedent at this day and age. Maybe in another 100 years or so. So McCain will be elected. God knows we don't need anymore democrats in office!!

[Gully Knuckles]

you should vote if for no other reason but to cancel out one of these 2 idiots' votes...

LOL it wouldn't cancel out our votes unless hes from the same district as one of us since the president isn't chosen by the popular vote buy by the electoral college

So your going to not bitch about who the new President is? Considering the fact you will not vote you don't or shouldn't get a say in it. Bitching is fine as long as you vote.

Unless the person you voted for won

[coalition]

[QUOTE=Jimmy James;197045]you should vote if for no other reason but to cancel out one of these 2 idiots' votes...

If anybody does get it in my opinion, it' will be barrack for the simple reason the minorities as a whole are all voting for him directly. The other half of the voters are split up with Hillary for the democratic party, Huckabee for republican and ect ect with the rest of the candidates.

[Gully Knuckles]

[QUOTE=Jimmy James;197045]you should vote if for no other reason but to cancel out one of these 2 idiots' votes...
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If anybody does get it in my opinion, it' will be barrack for the simple reason the minorities as a whole are all voting for him directly. The other half of the voters are split up with Hillary for the democratic party, Huckabee for republican and ect ect with the rest of the candidates.

Not all minorities are voting for him plus most of the south and the west wont vote for him

[Dietryin]

its all bollox
the coloured guy wont win even though were all rootin for him

[Don Gargon]

its all bollox
the coloured guy wont win even though were all rootin for him

Started by realizing he's not colored! Jessica Simpson and Tammy Fae Baker are colored.

[Jacx]

nO i DONT BUT i DO BELIEVE MOST OF THE MIDDLE EAST HATES US AND ANYONE THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM DOESN'T BELONG IN OFFICE


ok seriously now..maybe thats the issue at hand here...why is there so many issues with the middle east..maybe its becuase u guys need a leader who can stop and understand their point of view..not to say they have to agree to change everything to reflect this, but ballance..hell some of that is deffo needed in this country!

And its funny ur all talking religion and war...what about the ecconomy, were entering into a world recession, and yes we have entered but bush said the other day were not in recession thus that means were not (rolls eyes).

Which one of the above can actually change this downward trend.. Of the above, i don't see anyone other than clinton managing the ecconmy better!

[TraPStaR]

ok seriously now..maybe thats the issue at hand here...why is there so many issues with the middle east..maybe its becuase u guys need a leader who can stop and understand their point of view..not to say they have to agree to change everything to reflect this, but ballance..hell some of that is deffo needed in this country!

And its funny ur all talking religion and war...what about the ecconomy, were entering into a world recession, and yes we have entered but bush said the other day were not in recession thus that means were not (rolls eyes).

Which one of the above can actually change this downward trend.. Of the above, i don't see anyone other than clinton managing the ecconmy better!

get to work... your opinion doesnt matter :P

but seriously Jacx, you bring the attention to the understanding part of world and diplomacy and being a world leader in communication. If the United States can get anyone into office that can show significant change and pushing for a better worldwide economy rather than focusing on just the US, we will see and upward trend in a ''happier'' and more ''peaceful'' world. Outta the people above all have great abilities, unfortunitly we live in the United States where change is hard to understand...

Obama - great leadership and great speaker, takes things to heart and looks like a VERY great leader... but with the Arab name and being black overall americans are narrow minded and stupid.

Clinton - great background and has been in this situation before, has a very good potential, but is a woman... thats gonna hurt her in the polls and has already started to.

McCain - military background. supports Green (environmental issues), i can see him being a great leader and i have followed much of his background throughout the years. Old... <--- plays against him in the younger crowds with the young Obama. McCain has my vote at the current moment just because Bloomsberg is not in the Running.

Huckabee - IMO a JOKE... A vote for him is a Vote for McCain as all News casts have stated. He's very religious as a former pastor. he supports the continuing of the War in Iraq which im okay with, but where are the heart felt issues... Global Warming? environmental issues? Immigration laws??? <--- who cares

This is where John Kerry and Al Gore would be a nice team... but its not going to happen... we need Educated NON SELLOUTS no corrupted political issues... just plain and straight forward...

So as for that being Said the closest to being honest is McCain... please before voting use you minds and research just 10 mins on each person and look at real issues... look at issues that matter, not immigration... why are we worried about immigants when we have millions of ppl with no health care and issues of Global demise from foreign issues of higher severity?

[Furyous]

I will grudgingly vote for McCain. My dad lost $1.5 Million in his savings and loan scandal. He's got some skeletons, but most of them are out of the closet.

I hate Clinton. One of her campaign issues, interestingly enough, is NAFTA, which her husband pushed through. She will try to single handedly destroy our medical system, which, although expensive, is arguably the best in the world. She's the biggest conspiracy theorist of our time, and is a hardcore socialist. Can't stand the beotch.

Here's some reading for you all on the Keating 5 (Savings and Loan Scandal...)

The Keating Five were five United States Senators, who were accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, John McCain (R-AZ) (the presumptive Republican nominee for the 2008 U.S. presidential election), Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board.

After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, while John Glenn and John McCain had been only minimally involved. The Committee recommended censure for Cranston and criticized the other four for "questionable conduct."

All five of the senators involved served out their terms, but only Glenn and McCain ran for re-election (and were subsequently re-elected).

The rest of the piece may be found here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

[drpacifist]

you could have at least put, NONE OF THE ABOVE.

All of those clowns are the same. McCains gonna win, and we're all gonna suffer. Cheers.

[drpacifist]

I will grudgingly vote for McCain. My dad lost $1.5 Million in his savings and loan scandal. He's got some skeletons, but most of them are out of the closet.

I hate Clinton. One of her campaign issues, interestingly enough, is NAFTA, which her husband pushed through. She will try to single handedly destroy our medical system, which, although expensive, is arguably the best in the world. She's the biggest conspiracy theorist of our time, and is a hardcore socialist. Can't stand the beotch.

Here's some reading for you all on the Keating 5 (Savings and Loan Scandal...)

The Keating Five were five United States Senators, who were accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, John McCain (R-AZ) (the presumptive Republican nominee for the 2008 U.S. presidential election), Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board.

After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, while John Glenn and John McCain had been only minimally involved. The Committee recommended censure for Cranston and criticized the other four for "questionable conduct."

All five of the senators involved served out their terms, but only Glenn and McCain ran for re-election (and were subsequently re-elected).

The rest of the piece may be found here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five


Good stuff, but McCain is going to keep us in war, including Iran.

[drpacifist]

Obama, all the way, his record of actually getting shit done speaks for itself, despite being part of the washington machine.

What 5 years? Ron Paul has 20 and would actually free americans.

[drpacifist]

Anything but another republican
PLEASE!

Theres no real difference between the parties other than the lies they spew.

[vixen]

Obama, all the way, his record of actually getting shit done speaks for itself, despite being part of the washington machine.


Are you for real? The dude has been in Congress for what 3 years. How much has he gotten done? I'd love to hear this......

[Colonel Sanders]

I would go so far as to say that anyone who doesn't vote for Ron Paul or Mike Gravel is a traitor to America or just severely misinformed. But since the U.S. is so corrupted from the core it really doesn't matter anymore who gets president, so I won't be voting.

[vixen]

I would go so far as to say that anyone who doesn't vote for Ron Paul/Mike Gravel is a traitor to America or just severely misinformed. But since the U.S. is so corrupted from the core it really doesn't matter anymore who gets president, so I won't be voting.

3 things

1) Seriously - are you old enough to vote? Its been so long I don't remember.

2) Isn't Ron Paul running as a Republican and out of the race?

3) If you don't vote you haven't earned the right to complain. In other words if you chose not to vote then you have no right whatsoever to utter one complaint about the President as you gave up your constitutional right to vote....

[Colonel Sanders]

Gonna be 20 in a few weeks.

Yeh Ron Paul is pretty much but it doesn't change the fact.

We don't have any rights, thats an illusion. Not a single damn thing will change if either Obama or Clinton or McCain wins....about the only major thing that would change is if McCain wins, if that happens it's sure to push WW3 a few years sooner. Like I've said many times now the only way the U.S. will change is power exchange through war.

[vixen]

Gonna be 20 in a few weeks.

Yeh Ron Paul is pretty much but it doesn't change the fact.

We don't have any rights, thats an illusion. Not a single damn thing will change if either Obama or Clinton or McCain wins....about the only major thing that would change is if McCain wins, if that happens it's sure to push WW3 a few years sooner. Like I've said many times now the only way the U.S. will change is power exchange through war.


You could live in Zimbabew and be royally fucked, at least you can go to the polls and vote!