Plastic Surgery

[Tca]

Right, was reading an article today about plastic surgery and the lengths and amounts of money some people pay to make themselves look "beautiful" or well watever.

The reason im posting this thread is because i think people who there is physically nothing wrong with getting plastic surgery is pathetic and shallow, i mean, people who are physically deformed etc, im not against them having it to like, fix the deformity, because thats a different thing altogether, but what need is there to get fat sucked out (fucking exercise) to get huge tits (implants feel like shit anyway) etc?

So who is pro plastic surgery and against it? State your opinions fuckers.

[Duffman]

Against...but only cos im already beautifull lol

[wats_up]

The world could do with more hot people

Im for it!

But really now, I think its shallow and a waste of money, and hey as long as there not spending my money I dont really care. Its there life, they can do what they want

[Asshole]

asshole hates fake boobs..

But liposuction is fair game

[Tca]

lol short n sweet, nice work guys :P who the fuck REALLY wants to read through posts the length you always see in SD :)

liposuction then asshole? what makes the perks of that? so your girlfriend/wife/fuck buddy doesn't get abit flabby around the edges etc?

The world could do with more hot people

Im for it!

But really now, I think its shallow and a waste of money, and hey as long as there not spending my money I dont really care. Its there life, they can do what they want

very true, apart from the world could do with more hot people, why do you think that kinda shit? sure, there is some butt ugly as fuck people in the world, but they socialise with each other and we're all happier lol why go and waste tens of thousands of dollars for surgery that'll probably only end up making you look shitter anyways?

[Spork!!!]

Im lucky 'nuff to look fantabulastic the way I am. I think corrective plastic surgery for birth defects or trauma victims is gr8, but not just for vanity.
To be fair though, if I were female and in a public job, the society we live in imposes certain expectations, maybe if it is the ony way to keep a job in TV for a few more years, but then where does that argument stop? Should "I" as a youn hopeful get that nose job and boob augmentation to get a better career as a model?

[Furyous]

To be fair though, if I were female and in a public job, the society we live in imposes certain expectations, maybe if it is the ony way to keep a job in TV for a few more years, but then where does that argument stop? Should "I" as a youn hopeful get that nose job and boob augmentation to get a better career as a model?

YES

[Mikey:)]

It's easy to say these people are shallow but they've grown up in a society full of media that tells them that they aren't attractive enough in order to sell them products. I'm not into plastic surgery but if it helps people feel better about themselves then I don't really see the problem.

[Colonel Sanders]

I don't see a problem with plastic surgery, either re constructive or cosmetic. I do think it far too abused though....and breast enlargements are just stupid imo... Ass implants and the like. The only cosmetic work that should ever be done is something on yer face. Liposuction should also be banned cause it just proves the person getting it shouldn't deserve to live if he can't take 30 minutes out of his day to better his body and himself.

[Tca]

I don't see a problem with plastic surgery, either re constructive or cosmetic. I do think it far too abused though....and breast enlargements are just stupid imo... Ass implants and the like. The only cosmetic work that should ever be done is something on yer face. Liposuction should also be banned cause it just proves the person getting it shouldn't deserve to live if he can't take 30 minutes out of his day to better his body and himself.

Now i entirely agree with this, but i'd have thought that considering the rest of the evils, liposuction would have been one of the lesser ones, what if one was too fat to exercise properly? lol sounds funny enough, but its happened.

[Smash Bros]

Now i entirely agree with this, but i'd have thought that considering the rest of the evils, liposuction would have been one of the lesser ones, what if one was too fat to exercise properly? lol sounds funny enough, but its happened.

the definition of exercise is getting the heart rate above normal.(got it from my head :P)

soo for one of those fat people all it takes is starting to clap for awhile as they are that fat that it raises their heart rate and they start to loose weight.

[Tca]

the definition of exercise is getting the heart rate above normal.(got it from my head :P)

soo for one of those fat people all it takes is starting to clap for awhile as they are that fat that it raises their heart rate and they start to loose weight.

yeah, you do have a point there, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to get liposuct (is that a word? lol) if one had like, diabetes and high blood pressure etc to get the extra weight off them and maybe give them a chance to get these things down to a more managable level then staying fat?

basically what im saying is, this would be one of the few plastic surgeries being done that could have a healthier factor involved, would it not?

[Grendel]

Does liposuction require anaesthetic? If it does high blood pressure is a risk factor that would need to be taken into account. Would the risks from being fat for longer due to the time taken to lose weight through diet, exercise etc., be less than the risk of anaesthesia?

[Smash Bros]

yeah, you do have a point there, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to get liposuct (is that a word? lol) if one had like, diabetes and high blood pressure etc to get the extra weight off them and maybe give them a chance to get these things down to a more managable level then staying fat?

basically what im saying is, this would be one of the few plastic surgeries being done that could have a healthier factor involved, would it not?

honestly if they are that fat they dont have my sympathy. ive always struggled with weight. everytime i exercise as soon as i stop i but the weight back on 2 fold. i still wont get surgery to get rid of it. ill exercise and eat healthy to get it off. if i have the surgery then i havent learned anything other then fuck if i get that fat they can fix me.


and in the long run id say loosing it would be better for them

[Colonel Sanders]

Well it is a shock to yer body to loose all that weight at once. Some have even developed life time liver, heart, and pancreatic complications because of it. You are just not meant to loose that much weight all at once.

Which is also why most doctors won't do it on WAY obese people.

And when you think about it it's even worse because that means they reserve it for people that are only mildly overweight and all they'd have to do is casual exercise.

[DnD]

I have no problem with it. Like what Mikey posted, if it boosts some people's confidences and inturn makes them happier, than who are we to say it's a bad thing?

And at Kaf, if you have money to afford liposuction, than you don't need to spend 30 minutes a day to better yourself. lol :)

[Colonel Sanders]

Are you saying being rich means that automatically makes you a success and a good person? So many things wrong with that.

[Calienta]

Are you saying being rich means that automatically makes you a success and a good person? So many things wrong with that.

No I think he's meaning if you can afford a "quick fix", instead of being dedicated for a long time, then that's your prerogative.

[DnD]

Are you saying being rich means that automatically makes you a success and a good person? So many things wrong with that.


Nope, I said, "if you have money to afford liposuction, than you don't need to spend 30 minutes a day to better yourself. lol" You must have misunderstood me. Think more literally.

[Tca]

Would the risks from being fat for longer due to the time taken to lose weight through diet, exercise etc., be less than the risk of anaesthesia?

Thats a good point i guess, what complications can arise from anaesthesia though? I've never really thought about that part to be honest. :hidey:

honestly if they are that fat they dont have my sympathy. ive always struggled with weight. everytime i exercise as soon as i stop i but the weight back on 2 fold. i still wont get surgery to get rid of it. ill exercise and eat healthy to get it off. if i have the surgery then i havent learned anything other then fuck if i get that fat they can fix me.


Oh i agree, its pathetic, don't get me wrong and if they wanted to lose the weight, they could by making even simple lifestyle changes, also its good that your that dedicated, you'll have to teach me a thing or two in getting rid of my beer gut. Another thread though.

Well it is a shock to yer body to loose all that weight at once. Some have even developed life time liver, heart, and pancreatic complications because of it. You are just not meant to loose that much weight all at once.

Which is also why most doctors won't do it on WAY obese people.

And when you think about it it's even worse because that means they reserve it for people that are only mildly overweight and all they'd have to do is casual exercise.

Also a good point at once, so really its more of a risk to get that much fat sucked out at once then to stay that fat and just work it off gradually? Also thats pretty pathetic, i meant the last bit, cos people who are only mildly overweight should just get off their mildly overweight asses and just exercise. Can't fucking stand people who are just like "oh i might just go get some lipsuction"

[Flechette]

in regards to lipo and wieght loss can we add in also the lovely gastric bypass. a super quick fix for 100+ lbs obese people. however, the complications from this surgery are horrid. i know of 2 co workers who "died" during this surgery. one developed a massive infection right after the surgery. sadly, several of the people i know who went through this surgery have regained the weight. wouldn't they be better off with a less invasive method of weight loss? say.... a treadmill :)

plastic surgery overall is usually not a one time thing. people seem to get addicted to it and don't know when to stop. see link:
http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/000351.html

[Stinger]

Just to share a few other potential reasons that have not yet been addressed herein...

Carrying too much excess weight on your body is hard on your heart. That fact alone can put certain people on a list for typically "elective surgeries" specifically for health reasons. It is also important to realize that cosmetic surgery, and liposuction are different than more invasive procedures.

Someone who is what they term as "grossly obese" must lose a certain amount of weight before they can even qualify for a surgery to remove the remaining excess fat on their bodies. Anesthesia is potentially life-threatening, and it is important to have a healthy, strong heart to have ANY surgery safely when being put-under.

Something thinner people may not realize, is that when someone who has carried that much extra weight on their bodies loses the excess weight, the damage that has been done by the loss of their skin's elasticity leaves a "flap", or severely sagging skin that will never regain its shape and function. This may be the reason for choosing to undergo a surgery, in some instances, where said person has taken the time to lose the weight by diet and exercise, but cannot by any other means remove the left over dangling flesh.

There are also people out there that do not have the ability to lose weight. Thyroid problems can affect people in different ways, but people with under-active thyroids (Hypothyroidism) typically become obese because their metabolism is affected adversely, therefore their bodies does not properly process the food that the body takes in.

I guess my point here is to state merely that people who are overweight are not always strictly over-eaters that do not exercise. As a matter of fact, those people that eat too little will also retain fat as their bodies will create fat to protect the body from potential starvation, even breaking down muscle tissue sometimes in the process.

[I Got Priors]

/me wants a boob job.
Not all big and porn star just to get the ones I had b4 I had two children. BUT, I am way too big of a pussy and don't want to be in all that pain. So...I'll buy really great bra's and get over it. :grin:

*also, the lamest plastic surgery procedure I have seen is calf implants. WTF is that all about? LoL

[Calienta]

My mom actually got bigger boobs after having us. And her sister's got smaller like yours. Weird!

[Timoteo32]

It's easy to say these people are shallow but they've grown up in a society full of media that tells them that they aren't attractive enough in order to sell them products.

This is flawed logic that doesn't place the responsibility on the people to see through the media garbage. By that logic, you can justify all sorts of things. (I should know, I work in advertising :hehe: ) It's on us to be smarter than the average cattle that swallow everything thrown at them.

[Shanna]

im with it but only for messed up people, or serious shit
cleft lips ,car accidents,,ect..