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TJ60
26th May 2008, 06:28 PM
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What is your take on the matter? I think the Gov't could easily set up a side road that doesn't get much traffic (which is usually where we race at) and just charge a simply amount for us to get in and race. Just have us sign waivers before going in. $10 bucks is what the track charges and I'd pay that for a closed of street or air strip. But they would rather write tickets and get the lawyers richer. If you get caught it's widely known that one lawyer charges $400 bucks and the ticket gets thrown out.

Shanna
29th May 2008, 01:42 PM
seems kinda fucked up

TJ60
30th May 2008, 12:04 AM
seems kinda fucked up

I feel the same way.... But I'm going to be out doing it saturday anyways:whistle:

Colonel Sanders
30th May 2008, 06:18 AM
I don't really care. People know it's dangerous. If you die doing it whatever I don't consider that a bad thing, you know what yer getting yourself into when ya get behind the wheel of a powerful machine....at least you die doing something that is exhilarating and fun. Wish I could say the same for the rest of the pansy asses out their who just play it safe their whole lives.

Now for the criminal aspect of it (guns etc) that is pretty self explanatory and another issue entirely and not really even connected if ya ask me.

Todd
30th May 2008, 10:20 AM
I don't really care. People know it's dangerous. If you die doing it whatever I don't consider that a bad thing, you know what yer getting yourself into when ya get behind the wheel of a powerful machine....at least you die doing something that is exhilarating and fun.

All true, but others on the road haven't chose to be part of that risk taking, and you don't have the right to make that decision for them...

Colonel Sanders
30th May 2008, 10:48 AM
I'm pretty sure they do have a choice actually. If yer gonna be a spectator for a street or derby race then you better be prepared to run and know that some random ass shit could come your way and potentially kill you. Even so people dieing on the side lines is extremely uncommon in the grand scheme of things and not worth discussing, except for of course the parents or whoever, and they are just making a big deal out of it cause they don't know their child well enough to let it go....looking for street racing to blame instead of just acknowledging that their child got into that kind of thing all by himself and wanted to live that lifestyle.

Drunken Monk
30th May 2008, 12:18 PM
I'm pretty sure they do have a choice actually. If yer gonna be a spectator for a street or derby race then you better be prepared to run and know that some random ass shit could come your way and potentially kill you. Even so people dieing on the side lines is extremely uncommon in the grand scheme of things and not worth discussing, except for of course the parents or whoever, and they are just making a big deal out of it cause they don't know their child well enough to let it go....looking for street racing to blame instead of just acknowledging that their child got into that kind of thing all by himself and wanted to live that lifestyle.


Generalisations again. I take it you never really considering mitigating circumstances do you, or even leave room for the possibility of such circumstances existing? Get your brain out of that iron box you keep it in and let it grow some wings so you can get a bird's eye view of the debate instead of the the tunnel vision you have right now.

Furyous
30th May 2008, 01:31 PM
I have done my fair share of street racing throughout the years. The guns you're seeing in the video (shot in California) were never a part of our street racing scene. That's a gang issue and was inappropriately tied to the video regarding street racing. Would they post the same thing in a video regarding the dangers of jogging? I can guarantee you if you go jogging in some parts of California, at one point or another, you WILL have a gun pulled on you!

Anyway, safety was always an issue on everyone's mind at our street races. There's almost always some sort of ring leader. Our happened to be a guy who owned a local parts store and delivered all the nitrous bottles for the night. Generally, what he said, went! I saw some pretty gnarly accidents, but we all knew that that was part of the risk. We also never raced on a road without having scouts posted on both ends. The scout's job was to warn the spectators if the police were coming and also to keep traffic under control. If there was oncoming traffic, his job was to keep them from entering into "the danger zone" and if unsuccessful at stopping the oncoming traffic, to make sure that the racers knew to shut it down. We ran a very organized operation, and over the past 20 or so years, there have only been about 6 deaths. Yes, it's 6 too many, but like others have stated, that's part of the risk you take when you partake in this kind of activity. Not much different than rock climbing or parachuting if you ask me.

I agree that cities should consider sponsoring tracks. Look at Portland, Oregon for example. They had a lot of skateboarders, and began to have issues with destruction of property. What did the city eventually do? They began building skate parks. Now, there are some places where they don't permit skateboarding and it's not much of a problem. The skaters have a place to go and most of them prefer to go there anyway. Kind of a no brainer. In my opinion, a city sponsored track is absolutely the way to go. Most medium to large cities have businesses that would help share the costs even, but for whatever reason, this idea hasn't really caught on. I think (and hope)it's just a matter of time...

TJ60
1st June 2008, 12:16 AM
I see KAF's point, monk you were a little hard on him. Not every street racing scene is even remotely close to the video. Here where I live it, it's like furyous said. We race on a 5 lane road with very low traffic, we don't always set people at each end. We do check it out before a race starts just to make sure the police aren't just waiting on us. We also race from one county into another just to help cut down on an officer trying to pull one of us. The race starts in one county and ends in another. One of the guys that hangs out with us owns a store right there off the road. We all go to his parking lot and watch/get ready to race. It's also alot of City vs City, I bring a large crew and we run another group of people. I hold the money in money races and usually setup the races for my friends. The other guys have a counter part to my role, and things go smoother.

I in no way think street racing should be held where there is heavy traffic or innocent people that have nothing to do with whats going on.