AZ again? sigh......

[Rexel]

one quite obvious case of A-Z now gone from last rounds A1


This rounds top AZ strat:


B1
Most Working Junkies Diezel


Search results for Diezel (#478)
Player Diezel (#478)
Player Worth $58,100,880
Cartel We Will Love You Long Time ..! (#59)



I suspect Diezel is jumping gunners and pming his hospital times to mates so that he can stay hospitalised (probably is working with someone else but pming out your hospital times is enough in my opinion)


Based this on this pm he sent out in game to a mate:

From: Diezel (#478)
Mon Jul 7, 12:23 PM
pm me all who as no vests in your cartel and ill pm you my times man get your self most in a jump and 600 junkies 5 jumps m8


Perhaps this can be looked at?

[Cushion]

lmfao !

[Zeus]

That guy seems pretty imbalanced in the head also.

[Psychostyle]

Scans and log checks as soon as my game admin goes thru.

[Rexel]

thanks psychostyle


LMAO!!! - looks like he is just getting all the gunners in the room to keep him constantly in hospital by dishing out his hospital times. Isn't one medal room great...


taken from game talk addressed to Diezel:

Got Power
Thu Jul 10, 7:28 AM
Did you realy thought that i let you go away so easy,when you raped my junkies 19 days in a row? Lol you even send me your times,but i never asked them,just was couple days too late. Its so easy to manipulate you.like i said before you never was and will not be good player. And everything started you in a1 last round,when i left yours and monster crapy cartel

[OpticaliLLusion]

I figured I would help make it even easier and get him to admit it:

Shadow
Thu Jul 10, 12:18 PM
So how many gunners did you send your times to anyways? Why didn't I get them?
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Diezel
Thu Jul 10, 12:47 PM
lol why should i and i thought darcell was my jumpm partner when i was jumped by 9 different guys
Reply • Private Message
Shadow
Thu Jul 10, 12:49 PM
It seems like you gave your times to anyone with guns...so I figured I should be included.
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Diezel
Thu Jul 10, 1:02 PM
na i only gave 2 people my times steve and darcell and the rest got lucky then i gave got power them as i raped is ass all monh

[Jacx]

nice..

Just a update, new code being added this week, random hospital times

[Calienta]

nice..

Just a update, new code being added this week, random hospital times

awesome (Y)

[supernova]

nice..

Just a update, new code being added this week, random hospital times

Cool. But how about the junkies/labs won in a jump?
Has been reverted to the initial formula, or is the more complicate formula that is now, still in place?

[Rexel]

lol - I love this line:

Thu Jul 10, 12:47 PM
lol why should i and i thought darcell was my jumpm partner when i was jumped by 9 different guys



I actally think all these new players in from facebook don't realise this is cheating


Nice work on the new hospital code jacx - it will slightly hinder some proper gunners but i suppose there is no option now

[Cushion]

whats the min amount of time you'll be in hospital ? only asking coz this'll increase suiciding lol

[Diezel]

And how is it cheating i had a easy time playing this strat when i knew 2 cartels were all gunning low stam so i picked them of getting first 3 hits on them and returned each day and most if all tryed to hit me and got me at 1 time or another i had 4 of my times bunched from day5 is that my fault that im a known gunner and they were looking for them my events log will prove that .! And its all about going for top-spot so im cheating because i use the best strat in my opinion for trying for it. I ran my game in there like a military operation only spending tokens jumping and riding the subway after i aquired 500 books never missed a jump unless they started paying shit and i dropped them.Now your doing random hospital times that will hinder it but it will not change much once you have a list of gunners you just keep trying for them hoping for a few jumps on them a day .!

My 2 Cents

Stop Bitching

Dont Hate The Player Hate The Game "Or Get Good At It..!"

[Zeus]

Did you even read one reply in this thread or game A round 11 thread?

[Diezel]

Yes i did its just a bitch bitching about me because is round sucks and he plays the same strat its not even if i got a chance for top at 53mill random hospital times will not deter the strat only way to deter it is to run a anti-gunner strat but you can all bitch about shit i know the person/persons involved who have created this fuzz over shit because they just cant tweek the strat to play it well over here ..!

[Zeus]

I seen what you had posted in the game talk, don't you think that would raise alarms for cheating? Nobody is bitching, we just police cheating here vigorously so it doesn't become a big pile of shit like facebook game has became. If you cant appreciate that, then why are you here?

[Rexel]

Diezel
Thu Jul 10, 1:02 PM
na i only gave 2 people my times steve and darcell and the rest got lucky then i gave got power them as i raped is ass all monh

Diezel
Thu Jul 10, 12:47 PM
lol why should i and i thought darcell was my jumpm partner when i was jumped by 9 different guys




care to elaborate on the bold? specifically what a jump partner is?

[Cushion]

why do these nobs/noobs think by out scoring ppl with an illegal strat makes them a good player lol ? how about u dont cheat, and see were u finish :)

[Diezel]

I hear you man to be honest i never knew it was ilegal to give out times but as i will REPEAT i was never jumped by the same person 2 days running or all 5 jumps with same player on any givin day my events will prove that

[Rexel]

'i thought darcell was my jumpm partner'


again care to elaborate?

[Diezel]

Do you think because your a administrator you can call me a nob well here pal not gonna happen so quit the insults . Ok

I wa getting acused of having El Burro from cartel Unforgivin jumping me as my jump partner but i never had a jump partner all round i have a list of gunners who all got me numerous times each ..! Just a jealous player from that cartel causing shit because he got vested from day1 for him and is cartel running of there mouths

'i thought darcell was my jumpm partner'


again care to elaborate?

I wa getting acused of having El Burro from cartel Unforgivin jumping me as my jump partner but i never had a jump partner all round i have a list of gunners who all got me numerous times each ..! Just a jealous player from that cartel causing shit because he got vested from day1 for him and is cartel running of there mouths

[Rexel]

thanks for clearing that up mate.

I'm sure admin are looking into this by now anyway and are taking into account your admission of sharing your hospital times

for the record cushion is not a forum administrator he just has the title 'offical forum announcer' which basically means he is a tit

:flowers: (for MAtty)

[Zeus]

We dont know what you did so we cant go by what you say in this forum, thats for the admins to sort out. From what I gather, you dont set a shiny example of playing a legitimate game over in facebook, thats why you are getting called out all over the place. You called it the best strat, but its the only strat you have ever played since this being your first round at treadon version. Believe it or not, there is more than one viable strat here because it has a balance and cheating is enforced. Cushion can pretty much call you anything he wants in this section, thats why its called Accusations, insults, and whining.

[Cushion]

MF just jealous coz hes only "Senior Member" lol :haha:

[Cushion]

lol i came to expect it, but i thought id try n jump Diezel in Pro A and look what i get lol

"Cannot Jump, This player can't be jumped, he's a bloody mess in the hostpital from being jumped too much!"

:haha:

[Diezel]

lol i came to expect it, but i thought id try n jump Diezel in Pro A and look what i get lol

"Cannot Jump, This player can't be jumped, he's a bloody mess in the hostpital from being jumped too much!"

:haha:

This is why muppet

Fri Jul 11, 12:03 PM
• jersey (#584) jumped you and was able to beat you down. They made off with 17 junkies, $49 and 2 square feet worth of drug lab equipement. In the shoot-out you lost 0 guns and 0 vests. Your opponent lost 2,831 guns and 0 vests.
Fri Jul 11, 12:02 PM
• jersey (#584) jumped you and was able to beat you down. They made off with 34 junkies, $58 and 4 square feet worth of drug lab equipement. In the shoot-out you lost 0 guns and 0 vests. Your opponent lost 2,563 guns and 0 vests.
Fri Jul 11, 8:54 AM
• MR DOOM (#397) jumped you and was able to beat you down. They made off with 5 junkies, $14 and 1 square feet worth of drug lab equipement. In the shoot-out you lost 0 guns and 0 vests. Your opponent lost 1,622 guns and 0 vests.
Fri Jul 11, 8:54 AM
• MR DOOM (#397) jumped you and was able to beat you down. They made off with 10 junkies, $12 and 1 square feet worth of drug lab equipement. In the shoot-out you lost 0 guns and 0 vests. Your opponent lost 2,085 guns and 0 vests.
Fri Jul 11, 8:33 AM
• Chaos902 (#438) jumped you and was able to beat you down. They made off with 21 junkies, $14 and 2 square feet worth of drug lab equipement. In the shoot-out you lost 0 guns and 0 vests. Your opponent lost 3,000 guns and 0 vests.
Thu Jul 10, 11:38 AM
• MR DOOM (#397) jumped you and was able to beat you down. They made off with 11 junkies, $76 and 1 square feet worth of drug lab equipement. In the shoot-out you lost 0 guns and 0 vests. Your opponent lost 1,320 guns and 0 vests.
Thu Jul 10, 11:37 AM
• MR DOOM (#397) jumped you and was able to beat you down. They made off with 19 junkies, $86 and 2 square feet worth of drug lab equipement. In the shoot-out you lost 0 guns and 0 vests. Your opponent lost 1,748 guns and 0 vests.
Thu Jul 10, 4:42 AM
• lil buck (#572) jumped you and was able to beat you down. They made off with 3 junkies, $210 and 0 square feet worth of drug lab equipement. In the shoot-out you lost 374 guns and 0 vests. Your opponent lost 930 guns and 591 vests.
Thu Jul 10, 4:42 AM
• lil buck (#572) jumped you and was able to beat you down. They made off with 7 junkies, $250 and 1 square feet worth of drug lab equipement. In the shoot-out you lost 381 guns and 0 vests. Your opponent lost 906 guns and 669 vests.
Thu Jul 10, 1:26 AM
• chronic westie (#20) jumped you and was able to beat you down. They made off with 16 junkies, $361 and 2 square feet worth of drug lab equipement. In the shoot-out you lost 0 guns and 0 vests. Your opponent lost 5,638 guns and 0 vests.
Wed Jul 9, 12:41 PM
• Some thugs from Spawn (#56) came by and tampered with the machines in your factory. When the police came 0 of your thugs were arrested and 12 of your opponents thugs were arrested

[Kloaked Spirit]

And how is it cheating i had a easy time playing this strat when i knew 2 cartels were all gunning low stam so i picked them of getting first 3 hits on them and returned each day and most if all tryed to hit me and got me at 1 time or another i had 4 of my times bunched from day5 is that my fault that im a known gunner and they were looking for them my events log will prove that .! And its all about going for top-spot so im cheating because i use the best strat in my opinion for trying for it. I ran my game in there like a military operation only spending tokens jumping and riding the subway after i aquired 500 books never missed a jump unless they started paying shit and i dropped them.Now your doing random hospital times that will hinder it but it will not change much once you have a list of gunners you just keep trying for them hoping for a few jumps on them a day .!

My 2 Cents

Stop Bitching

Dont Hate The Player Hate The Game "Or Get Good At It..!"

Actually the new random hospital times will hinder this a lot. See, when you have an 8 hour range that they can get out instead of an exact time period, you're not going to be able to guarantee that you can jump your same targets over and over again. You also can't guarantee that you can keep yourself limited to only a couple of people hitting you because you can't guarantee when you'll get out of the hospital. The only way you can be absolutely certain of either of these items would be to start running scripts, which would be illegal.

As for if what you're doing is illegal or not, I can't make the official call this round. However I would say that it is illegal under rule 4c (like the Team Az strategy has been deemed illegal by.) The reason is really because you're giving out the times. What you're doing by giving out the times is severely limiting the people that could hit you back, making you an almost impossible target to touch (without running scripts) to any normal gunner in the game. Meanwhile you're invincible 23 hours and 59 minutes of the day to jump whomever you please and when you please. That invincibility and control over who gets your junkies is the premise of the Team Az strategy in the first place. Now if you weren't to give out your times, I'd feel that's a different story. At least then there's not that element of control, and a random gunner would have a chance of coming after you and hitting you.

I don't necessarily blame you for trying this if you're from the FB version, because over there that's about the only way to play the game. It's so lopsided in terms of balance you have to go for what wins. However, by seeing what the game has become over there, we see what needs changing over here. The major concern at this point just happens to be gunning.

[supernova]

Will random ICU be introduced after the B round is over (affecting the A rounds as well)?

As I said, I like the idea - as of now a good gunner would follow the 24-hour ritual closely, but with the change it enables everyone a fair chance of getting the target.

[Zeus]

Will random ICU be introduced after the B round is over (affecting the A rounds as well)?

As I said, I like the idea - as of now a good gunner would follow the 24-hour ritual closely, but with the change it enables everyone a fair chance of getting the target.


A good gunner never puts all his eggs in one basket. Rarely do you ever see a good gunner jump somebody 5X in a row and put them in the hospital, by the 3-5 jump it hardly become worth the guns loss. Good gunners have multiple targets and hit them 1, maybe 2X then move on.

[supernova]

I noticed that too - so most of my targets (be them gunners) I jump maybe 2-4 times. With the new jump change, if you get the 3 best hits today, you also get the 3 best hits tomorrow. Though I noticed some strange results - like getting the 5th, right after the 1st. But only happens once in a while.

[Kloaked Spirit]

Will random ICU be introduced after the B round is over (affecting the A rounds as well)?

As I said, I like the idea - as of now a good gunner would follow the 24-hour ritual closely, but with the change it enables everyone a fair chance of getting the target.

I don't have an e.t.a. on when the new change will be implemented. Jacx said it'd be next week, but that's as close to a date as I know.

[XXX]

:snuggle:Still nothing like the good old days when we used to jump ourselfs,,,,ROFLOMFAO@ITALL!

[Spork!!!]

XXX you muppet, that was me jumping you but I told you I was "babysitting your other acc". Took you 4 rounds (6 rooms each) to realise. :p

I like the random times, (20-28hrs?) however, unless the use of auto-refreshers is prohibited won't ppl. still be able to "set" their comp. to jump a selected target once every 8 hrs, thus bypassing this safeguard? I understand their use is also common on FB DW, and widely used/abused and not policed so it seems inevitable that ppl. playing that version will want to try what they know here. Bit tough for them when what is OK on one server is taboo on another, but I don't mean to lower this ones standards...
Perhaps admin could send an automated message to ALL new members with a link to point out the differences between this version and others out there to save confusion? I believe the idea of getting DW "out there" was to attract more players, not to widen the divide between OT players and "the rest...".

[KACK]

i see snooz in a1 pro

mg and most junkies won in a jump

[Kloaked Spirit]

XXX you muppet, that was me jumping you but I told you I was "babysitting your other acc". Took you 4 rounds (6 rooms each) to realise. :p

I like the random times, (20-28hrs?) however, unless the use of auto-refreshers is prohibited won't ppl. still be able to "set" their comp. to jump a selected target once every 8 hrs, thus bypassing this safeguard? I understand their use is also common on FB DW, and widely used/abused and not policed so it seems inevitable that ppl. playing that version will want to try what they know here. Bit tough for them when what is OK on one server is taboo on another, but I don't mean to lower this ones standards...
Perhaps admin could send an automated message to ALL new members with a link to point out the differences between this version and others out there to save confusion? I believe the idea of getting DW "out there" was to attract more players, not to widen the divide between OT players and "the rest...".

Auto refreshing has always been considered the same as using a script, and has always been considered illegal. I'd only imagine that the captcha really doesn't do much against this either?

[Chronic]

Basically the FB's need to realize and understand that any version of the gunning-hospital-az strating is illegal here.

It sounds like maybe a good idea would be to place this announcement when you log into your account, like how adm had announced the pro games and such. Now i know that can get annoying having that because that pro game banner for days was irritating me but even if it is posted for the first few days at the start of each round, those new to our DW will get it, thus giving them the choice to coincide and learn how to play the way we do here, which is fair, verse the win at all costs way over there.