World War 3?

[hoos]

So with Iranian and Syrian backed Lebanon getting bombed by Israel, after a duel kidnapping of Israeli soldiers, believed to be taken by Iran, what is going to come of this? We have the U.N. telling Israel to settle down, and we have the Hezbollah ready for full-out war. What's going to happen with U.S. soldiers a country away, if Iran decided to throw a nuke in the air at Israel? We already know they want to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth and if we respond, the Hezbollah motto is "Death to America". Should we be more ready than we are?

[soulsurvivor]

So with Iranian and Syrian backed Lebanon getting bombed by Israel, after a duel kidnapping of Israeli soldiers, believed to be taken by Iran, what is going to come of this? We have the U.N. telling Israel to settle down, and we have the Hezbollah ready for full-out war. What's going to happen with U.S. soldiers a country away, if Iran decided to throw a nuke in the air at Israel? We already know they want to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth and if we respond, the Hezbollah motto is "Death to America". Should we be more ready than we are?


I think Iran wont nuke Israel but if they do Israel will probably launch back and that wold fuck up the mother fucking gas prices even more

[Grendel]

Is there any proof that Iran actually has nuclear weapons? No.

Although it is more than likely that Israel has them...

[Mark]

Well it wont be World War 3 at least not in the sense we think of it. In order for a world war to happen you need two superpowers fighting each other and iran and syria are not superpowers if china enter then i would be very concerned but they wont.

To answer the original question nothing will happen if there is a war it will be like the 6 day war a quick and decisive victory for israel.

[CrayZii-InDiaN]

omg lolz.. i was thinking about openning this thread yesterday..

but im sure that it will come...

[CrayZii-InDiaN]

Something bad is happening in Asia. North Korea is trying to provoke Japan, South Korea, America, and pretty much everyone else in the world with missile tests and fightin’ words. Japan is mulling a pre-emptive strike. Taiwan is now planning a ballistic missile test, and according to Chungshan Institute of Science and Technology, it has a range of 600 miles and accurate to half a meter. India tested a long range, nuclear-capable missile the other day. And today, there was a series of train bombings in Mumbai, India, killing nearly 150 at last count.

America has pledged it’s support for Taiwan, if fighting breaks out with China. We clearly would defend Japan and South Korea if they were attacked. India and Pakistan are both allies, but if it came down to choosing one or the other, we would likely side with India. North Korea is a dangerous enemy, and seems to be itching for a fight. We have economic interests with China, and vice versa, but who knows what either of us would do in a time of extreme tension and hostility.

Prior to World War I, there were arms races, alliances, and war that was certainly going to happen. However, it was supposed to just be a relatively minor war between Austria-Hungary and Serbia. But The Allies and Central Powers pledged their support to their respective sides, and a localized war ended up encompassing the entire globe, or at least the resources of it. Did it need to be this way? The Treaty of Versailles claimed it was all Germany’s fault. I fault ego and arrogance on all sides.

So here we are, a century after the arms buildup to WWI, and what do we see? An arms buildup in Asia, and everyone already declaring their support. Only this time, it’s involving many more countries, many more people, and weapons many times more destructive. We also see wars that are almost certain to happen. Taiwan and China. India and Pakistan. North Korea and South Korea and Japan. None of us are naïve to think any one of these conflicts would just involve those parties. America, Europe and others have declared their support, so if fighting were to break out, it’s certain WWIII would ensue. And if any one of these conflicts started, it wouldn’t take much for these other fights to begin.

It seems like a pretty bleak outlook. People have been saying there would be a war between America and China which would decide who the next superpower would be. What we’re witnessing now could be the beginning of such conflict.

Should we be doomed to have massive wars every 100 years, though? Can’t we use our heads and prevent it? Is Taiwan worth causing a war? Is Kashmir? Are nuclear weapons and far-reaching missiles worth it? Is ego worth it?

North Korea should spend its money on feeding the millions of starving citizens. India should continue to nurture its growing technology industry. Pakistan should work at democratization, and become a model not only for the Muslim world, but the entire world. China should realize it’s can’t continue on its path of oppression and restriction, and work on a positive and cooperative relationship with America. Who says we have to fight to be superpowers? Both our countries, and the world, would benefit from our working together. Friendly competition reaps better results than a hostile rivalry.

Bound to happen
whenever it happens, world war 3 will be a nuclear war.

[KoRn]

Death Row, you really should credit sites you take news from.

http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/19428/World_War_Three

[CrayZii-InDiaN]

Death Row, you really should credit sites you take news from.

http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/19428/World_War_Three


oh yes.. sorri m8 ... i do it most of the time... but its really easy to say that i havn't typed all them... :)

back to the topic.. do you think it will bound to happen?

[CrayZii-InDiaN]

atm Koreans have ready to launch a Nuclear Bomb Anywhere to the world.. they can destroy any contries they have the power at the moment.. thats why.. korean prime minister wanted to send lots of missle as in rockets to get an attention so americans can do something...

[Phuquit]

Ooooh - I've never seen a nuclear blast up-close...
*puts marshmallow on a stick*

But seriously, I don't believe the current situation will escalate into a nuclear holocaust.
Firstly, as Grendel points out, Iran's nuclear program isn't as advanced as the Pentagon would have you believe, whereas Isreal (whether you want to believe they have nuclear weapons or not) will have the total backing of the US, no matter how aggresively they respond (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html).
Secondly, the notion of mutually-assured destruction *should* keep all sides in check. Israel is quite capable of defeating Lebanon and Syria in conventional warfare, while Iran is effectively blockaded by US colonies (Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia).
So the worst-case scenario would be Iran using some form of "dirty bomb" against Israel, which would be suicide due to the inevitable nuclear retaliation of USA (with full UN Security Council backing, since Russia, France, and China have no stake).


*Smokie's maths is slightly off, since there is currently only one superpower (USA), and seven countries which are openly in posession of nuclear weapons: USA, UK, France, Russia, China, India, and Pakistan.

[hoos]

I knew there were more nuclear countries. Where's that "End of the World" video. WTF mate?

Anyways, I know nothing has been proven that Iran has nuclear weapons, but who really knows what they have and can get on the black market. I'm just worried about what they can do with what they get, and who they can get to help them. Not too many people like us Americans these days and with our full support of Israel, it might be a good reason for them to back the opposing sides. I'm hoping this is just another bump in the road that will not affect us.

[tca]

What phuquit said, Self destruction as well as the destruction of your enemies should keep everyone in check, I don't think we'll see a nuclear war break out unless America looks like losing or they are threatened enough, As for a World War 3, That's bound to happen

Human Nature

[CrayZii-InDiaN]

There willl be lot of war happening soon enough such as these countries:

India Vs Pakistan

South Korea Vs North Korea Then .. Japan and China...

Iran and other countries... now the current stage with korieans is that... they are ready to lauch much nuclear bomb and destroy other part of the world in seconds.. they have the power to do it.. thats why.. USA AND AUS are making an slow move.. USA and other Asian countries have to team up and defeat Korieans...

[TJ60]

ok can anyone tell me what just happened with iran? The world gave them a sheet with all these little goodies and benefits if they stop their process for nuclear energy. Hmm,....N. Korea which is being told to do the same thing is thinking to themselves,"hey we want shit too" So how do they do it? Test some weapons....looks like something iran did? oh yea they did that too. All N. Korea wants is to be given all the stuff that was offered to Iran plus some more. Oh yea those missle test...they failed within a minute of launch, they can't reach the states. But they can reach Japan.

another thing their isn't a china vs japan or N. Korea vs japan.....simply put it this way any country that attacks japan is an attack upon the united states. Why? Because we are japan's army, navy, and air force. We have an treaty that says we will protect them.

If iran does attack Israel, they know they hurt themselves. Then it puts China and Russia in a hard spot to support them as their doing now. It also just opens the door for the US to get into Iran.


why not make this interesting and bring in the whole topic of religon:cool2:
according to the bible Israel is Gods chosen people, all that oppose Israel will suffer the wraith of GOD.

[hoos]

phu, this is for you http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/endofworld.html

[VikesWookie]

Is Japan going to revise their Constitution?

Currently, they can't have an offensive force.

[Grendel]

Is Japan going to revise their Constitution?

Currently, they can't have an offensive force.

The Japanese are already taking steps to do so...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/22/AR2005112200672.html

[Chronic]

People in the middle east are just crazy. China said they would not impose any embargos on N. Korea for their testfire and S. Korea also said they dont want any embargos on the north....China is N. Koreas main source of exports so fucking with N. Korea is asking for trouble with China at this point.

Israel will definitely kick the shit out of syria and Hezbollah and could definitely walk right into Iran and bury them. Lebanon wants no part of the attack on them but they have that stupid terrorist group living there that is supported by Syria and Iran. The U.S. has shown support today towards Israel to do what they have too do. All we are doing is supplying marines to get our people, as well as the U.K.'S people out of there. Thats where things will get hairy if any of those people are attacked or kidnapped by the terrorists. That draws us right into the war.

N. Korea has agreed on several occasions to 1 on 1 talks with pres. Bush. I think he needs to suck it up and talk with the man and see what comes of it.

As long as our peeps are not kidnapped, hurt or killed while this is going on, i say we stay right the hell out of it and finish what we started in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes we need to keep a close eye on whats happening but Irael is more then capable to defeat the enemy without our help. Their military are some highly trained S.O.B.'s. Iran talks alot of shit and know it wpould be suicide to send a bomb towards Israel.

[kurtis469]

Is there any proof that Iran actually has nuclear weapons? No.

Although it is more than likely that Israel has them...


they supposedly have them but its not confermed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_powers

[Grendel]

Hence the reason I said "more than likely".

Israel & South Africa carried out joint tests in the 1970's/early 80's. South Africa voluntarily destroyed their nuclear weapons. It hardly takes a massive leap of faith to believe that Israel has them...

[aok]

Hence the reason I said "more than likely".

Israel & South Africa carried out joint tests in the 1970's/early 80's. South Africa voluntarily destroyed their nuclear weapons. It hardly takes a massive leap of faith to believe that Israel has them...

Israel would be fairly stupid to use them though, The Hezbollah are to the south near the border so if they fired one at them then the radiation could maybe kill some of Isreal's own citizens, however if they fired one to the north then they would kill innocent people which could bring USA/UK and the rest into a war.

But as you said they most probably have them

[Q80Thug]

when will this stop! so much destruction so many dead..... if hizbollah terrorest are located in southern part of lebanon why destroy the capital, why destroy electricity power plants and the airport that civillian need. this is not the first time there has been soldier kidnapings and prisonsers exchange is not a new thing, why then bombard and attack!? there are many other reasons why is this happening, IMO i think this is also related to internal isrealy politics, where ulmer, prime minister of isreal, who is a politician and not a military man is showing his country that he knows how to act in crisis. iran was first accused of starting this to ease the tension on its nuclear activities and as a response iran is saying that 'if you think we're avoiding the issue then bomb syria and see what will happen'.....


let everyone here see the pictures of the dead, young and old and tell me if this response is justified... may god have have mercy on their and our souls.

[dov]

the palestinans want 1000s of terrorists back just for 2 isrealise also they kidnaped the soilders just for this and my final point is theres a major diffrence bettween hezbollah and isreal. isreal is shooting at the terrorists but somtimes killing inocents but also its people who are helping the terrorist
but hebollah is shooting its rockets at inocent people not at the soilders

[kurtis469]

when will this stop! so much destruction so many dead..... if hizbollah terrorest are located in southern part of lebanon why destroy the capital, why destroy electricity power plants and the airport that civillian need. this is not the first time there has been soldier kidnapings and prisonsers exchange is not a new thing, why then bombard and attack!? there are many other reasons why is this happening, IMO i think this is also related to internal isrealy politics, where ulmer, prime minister of isreal, who is a politician and not a military man is showing his country that he knows how to act in crisis. iran was first accused of starting this to ease the tension on its nuclear activities and as a response iran is saying that 'if you think we're avoiding the issue then bomb syria and see what will happen'.....


let everyone here see the pictures of the dead, young and old and tell me if this response is justified... may god have have mercy on their and our souls.


the government of lebenoon( cant speel sorry ) is letting hellbohlah operate freely and a way to take a contry down is take out there infrastucture.....power plants...water sorces..etc...and there will always be inoccant deaths...look at ww2 and the jews(or iseral since the us and uk pretty much stole that land for the jews

[dov]

im almost positive that isreal was uks colony

[kurtis469]

im almost positive that isreal was uks colony


your right


Balfour Declaration 1917: British foreign affairs minister Arthur James Balfour sends a letter to Lord Rothschild, President of the Zionist Federation, declaring his government's intent to establish "a national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine.



wiki

[Furyous]

Well, hate to break it to you all, but most world wars took years to actually become "World Wars". Unfortunately with religion involved, it makes issues even stickier. World War 3 was started when a few towel heads climbed on a few airplanes and decided to kill a few thousand americans with said airplanes. There has been no end to the violence since that fateful day, and there is no end in sight. BTW, do any of you know the fastest growing religion in Europe? If you guessed Islam, you would be correct. This violence that we are all living with right now is part of a holy war. The fight against America is growing very strong across the entire Muslim world. I lived in Afghanistan working for a non profit organization right after we kicked their ass, and have learned quite a bit since my time there. Don't get me wrong. Some of my best friends that I'll ever be blessed with havnig known were made in Afghanistan. One of my employees named his son after me. John Muhammad! I think he's probably the only Afghan with a Christian and a Muslim first name. My point is, not all people in these violent nations are bad. BUT, this war has just begun, and will not be over soon. America will continue to be a target unless we decide to stop helping the rest of the world with their problems, and let them all kill eachother as we stand back and watch. It's the price we pay to live in such an AWESOME country. I've lived around the world, and currently own a business, and live in Chile, but there is no place like home, and my home is the greatest nation in the world. The USA. BTW, if you don't believe me, go hang out in Afghanistan for a year. Nothing like waking up to the sound of a car bomb or a rocket flying over your house!
My prediction, the terrorism will continue, the free world will get pissed, and will begin going after coutries like Israel has done to Lebannon. If you refuse to play ball, we'll step in and play for you. Either youare with us or against us, and if you harbor violent people and allow them to exist within your borders, we'll come get 'em. England, Spain, India and Israel (just to name a few) have all dealt with Muslim etrmist terrorists now, and we've only just begun to see what kind of fight they're willing to bring against us. The violence will continue, and will begin to affect all countries associated with our country, or Israel. While this has not evolved into a true "World War" yet, I believe it will be within a few years. Call me a pessimist, a realist, whatever you like, I tend to think that my ideas have been cultivated through knowledge gained through my travels. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think that history will prove me wrong. We're in for a long hard battle.

[Mikey:)]

when will this stop! so much destruction so many dead..... if hizbollah terrorest are located in southern part of lebanon why destroy the capital, why destroy electricity power plants and the airport that civillian need. this is not the first time there has been soldier kidnapings and prisonsers exchange is not a new thing, why then bombard and attack!? there are many other reasons why is this happening, IMO i think this is also related to internal isrealy politics, where ulmer, prime minister of isreal, who is a politician and not a military man is showing his country that he knows how to act in crisis. iran was first accused of starting this to ease the tension on its nuclear activities and as a response iran is saying that 'if you think we're avoiding the issue then bomb syria and see what will happen'.....


let everyone here see the pictures of the dead, young and old and tell me if this response is justified... may god have have mercy on their and our souls.

I agree, this looks like the 1982 war all over again.... What Israel says they are doing and what they are actually doing are 2 different things. Why attack Beirut when thats too far away to launch rocket attacks on Israel from... why attack the infrastructure & bomb the airports (resulting in costly evacuations for other countrys citizens), they are only going to give Hesbollah more support. Im not sure of the current figures but the other day it was reported that off nearly 300 dead only 11 were confirmed terrorists and over 200 were children.... thats 200 more familys that now have a good reason to hate Israel and support the terror attacks. Israel has always denied targetting civilians yet here we see massive civilian casulaties and nothing is being done to stop it as its all in the name of self defence! What a joke.

[VikesWookie]

Well, hate to break it to you all, but most world wars took years to actually become "World Wars". Unfortunately with religion involved, it makes issues even stickier. World War 3 was started when a few towel heads climbed on a few airplanes and decided to kill a few thousand americans with said airplanes. There has been no end to the violence since that fateful day, and there is no end in sight. BTW, do any of you know the fastest growing religion in Europe? If you guessed Islam, you would be correct. This violence that we are all living with right now is part of a holy war. The fight against America is growing very strong across the entire Muslim world. I lived in Afghanistan working for a non profit organization right after we kicked their ass, and have learned quite a bit since my time there. Don't get me wrong. Some of my best friends that I'll ever be blessed with havnig known were made in Afghanistan. One of my employees named his son after me. John Muhammad! I think he's probably the only Afghan with a Christian and a Muslim first name. My point is, not all people in these violent nations are bad. BUT, this war has just begun, and will not be over soon. America will continue to be a target unless we decide to stop helping the rest of the world with their problems, and let them all kill eachother as we stand back and watch. It's the price we pay to live in such an AWESOME country. I've lived around the world, and currently own a business, and live in Chile, but there is no place like home, and my home is the greatest nation in the world. The USA. BTW, if you don't believe me, go hang out in Afghanistan for a year. Nothing like waking up to the sound of a car bomb or a rocket flying over your house!
My prediction, the terrorism will continue, the free world will get pissed, and will begin going after coutries like Israel has done to Lebannon. If you refuse to play ball, we'll step in and play for you. Either youare with us or against us, and if you harbor violent people and allow them to exist within your borders, we'll come get 'em. England, Spain, India and Israel (just to name a few) have all dealt with Muslim etrmist terrorists now, and we've only just begun to see what kind of fight they're willing to bring against us. The violence will continue, and will begin to affect all countries associated with our country, or Israel. While this has not evolved into a true "World War" yet, I believe it will be within a few years. Call me a pessimist, a realist, whatever you like, I tend to think that my ideas have been cultivated through knowledge gained through my travels. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think that history will prove me wrong. We're in for a long hard battle.

solid, well-thought post.... except for the "towel head" comment. considering that you obviously have a great respect for certain Muslims you met while over there.

[msklifesux]

If USA intervenes with the Israel/Lebanon war, then there will be a WWIII, since many nations have a grudge against the United States.
North Korea, Iran, Syria, &Afghanistan, <insert a country here>

A country cannot use any nuclear warheads, because the nuclear weapon might blow up the neighbouring countries.

[RobCheadle]

I think that we are already fightin world war III and have been for some time. It's just a different type of war.

Al Qaeda urges 'whole world' battle:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/27/zawahiri.tape/index.html



:allah: :gunner:

[kurtis469]

as far as ww3 goes i do beileve there will be one soon specailly how the middle east is now and korea testing missiles....but as far as the middle east goes i dont understand y nations all over the world are demanding peace and what not when there has not been peace in the middle east for thousands of years the only way there will be peace in the middle east is no more irsael and radical-islam (i put radical becasue all these nations have the koran all twisted and there faith does not call for death and destruction ) rules that region

[dov]

also there are far bigger humanitarian crisis in the would than 400 ppl killed like in dafur there are close to 1mil ppl killed already or south america

[CrayZii-InDiaN]

meh, if we die, we die, we all gotta go someday.


well thats for sure.. but that dosnt mean we have to die in world war .. why do you want to take a painful death..

death has to be natural ... the god has chossen the date for us when we die.. as how he created us on particular date :)

[msklifesux]

i dont like the idea of innocent civilians dying. i dont care about muslims, jews, christians, any other fucken races.. when it comes to politics and peoples ambitions. Innocent people are dying, and instead of helping them out, ppl just pin point @ who started the war etc. Politics in a forum where the game is about drugs.. interesting ... let me get this straight.. trying to prove to the society that this game is socially acceptable? because we have a serious thread?

[the squid of despair]

i dont like the idea of innocent civilians dying. i dont care about muslims, jews, christians, any other fucken races.. when it comes to politics and peoples ambitions. Innocent people are dying, and instead of helping them out, ppl just pin point @ who started the war etc. Politics in a forum where the game is about drugs.. interesting ... let me get this straight.. trying to prove to the society that this game is socially acceptable? because we have a serious thread?

What's your rant about?