Low Stam Gunners

[Zeus]

Bow to your daddy and praise my efforts, bow to Plastic Surgery Disasters, British Bulldogs, and Football Factory. Without us, your efforts will always be in vain. We do the all the work, you reap the benefits. Yes Alan, Mike Brickman, Mihia Pantis and followers, bring me a beer on your way before you reply my praises. I have a large ego, so any compliments on my "godlike" gunning skills is very much welcome.

[I Got Priors]

:bowing:

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[Zeus]

:bowing:

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Nice Vickie, looks like Alan had tiny balls and you are more badass than him.

[Ero-Sennin]

:bowing:

Can I get some chips with my beer?

[I Got Priors]

Nice Vickie, looks like Alan had tiny balls and you are more badass than him.

Of course I am more badass than him. Was there any question? :eh:

:bowing:

Can I get some chips with my beer?

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[KoRn]

:boohoo:


Sounds like someones having a cry about being jumped while gunning.

Would you rather be vest jumped 6-10 times a day eh?

*Ugh, fucking hipocrites*

[Diezel]

Bow to your daddy and praise my efforts, bow to Plastic Surgery Disasters, British Bulldogs, and Football Factory. Without us, your efforts will always be in vain. We do the all the work, you reap the benefits. Yes Alan, Mike Brickman, Mihia Pantis and followers, bring me a beer on your way before you reply my praises. I have a large ego, so any compliments on my "godlike" gunning skills is very much welcome.


Cant stay and argue this one out with you Zeus but yeah you guys are all on my christmas card lists speacaily hh that guy is 1 in a million gave me over 600 in a few days last round,And i dont know why you all knock the strat the best words to describe this strat is SMART gunning and if you could only read half the messages i get from pissed of gunners through out the round you would laugh your arse of and makes it so worth while...But on the flipside im in b2 and b3 pure gunning and i have been getting low stammed and it realy pisses you of when you try and retaliate and there in hospital i even considered getting a few vests then realised gunners dont get vests and its better to get low stammed than vested by buzzing and is red wankers lol



*passes Zeus beer* Thanks for the junkies :moon:

[Zeus]

:boohoo:


Sounds like someones having a cry about being jumped while gunning.

Would you rather be vest jumped 6-10 times a day eh?

*Ugh, fucking hipocrites*

you guys still crying about 3 ppl vesting you in b2?

[cunexttuesday]

you guys still crying about 3 ppl vesting you in b2?


NO!
Now you are crying about getting vested...geez!

:)

[Zeus]

NO!
Now you are crying about getting vested...geez!

:)


I am? low stam gunning and vesting are 2 different strategies toots.

[Az]

ONLY ONE WILL WIN!

tune in next week to find out if ashley is sleeping with jason

[cunexttuesday]

I am? low stam gunning and vesting are 2 different strategies toots.

Dave, has something happened to your sense of humor?

[Zeus]

Dave, has something happened to your sense of humor?


it was early, pre-coffee

[cunexttuesday]

it was early, pre-coffee

Forgiven!
:)

[I Got Priors]

it was early, pre-coffee


Pre-Coffee Sucks! :coffee: <<< 4 u Dave cuz you can never have enough.

[Az]

I support the legalization of caffeine as an injectable substance

[THE HEAVY HITTA]

thanks D for the compliment of passing along to u 600 js last round :S only thing i can say about that is they werent mine to begin with lmao.. thank the reds training cartel for them

the strat works, not gonna deny it, its been proven, its just not a strat u could expect to be done by 400 players in a medal room like a machine or junkie strat..

[Diezel]

thanks D for the compliment of passing along to u 600 js last round :S only thing i can say about that is they werent mine to begin with lmao.. thank the reds training cartel for them

the strat works, not gonna deny it, its been proven, its just not a strat u could expect to be done by 400 players in a medal room like a machine or junkie strat..

Thanks for the junkies Red Training cart :thumbs:

[$treet pharmaci$t]

it was early, pre-coffee

coffee is some of the greatest stuff ever made

[BIGRICK]

Bow to your daddy and praise my efforts, bow to Plastic Surgery Disasters, British Bulldogs, and Football Factory. Without us, your efforts will always be in vain. We do the all the work, you reap the benefits. Yes Alan, Mike Brickman, Mihia Pantis and followers, bring me a beer on your way before you reply my praises. I have a large ego, so any compliments on my "godlike" gunning skills is very much welcome.


Enough talking and more bowing u fuckers!!

:waiting:



;)

[Raskil]

Well its posted in Gametalk in B1 how to stop all the Low Stamina Gunning. Quite simple and I am sure if all the gunners that arent low stamina gunning worked togethor on it could easily be pulled off.

[Zeus]

Its either lose 5 jumps and 0 guns from low stammers or get vest and lose many guns from protecting yourself from machinist gun cartel killers. Its always a lose/lose situation.

[Diezel]

Its either lose 5 jumps and 0 guns from low stammers or get vest and lose many guns from protecting yourself from machinist gun cartel killers. Its always a lose/lose situation.

I know what i would prefer the x5 low stam jumps anyday

[Raskil]

I know what i would prefer the x5 low stam jumps anyday

I would prefer a good vesting :haha:

[Diezel]

I would prefer a good vesting :haha:

Dry your fucking eyes you talk shit saying that, so for instance you would like minus 5k guns a jump plus your lost junkies x5 instead of just your junkeis x5, your not very smart dave

[Dymond]

Vest jumping can be fun :) and props to Mike B for coming up with the idea in the first place.

[Diezel]

Vest jumping can be fun :) and props to Mike B for coming up with the idea in the first place.


Vest jumping is this in b4 by anychance ?

[Phillthy]

Vest jumping can be fun :) and props to Mike B for coming up with the idea in the first place.

So how long has this been going on? Vest gunning?

[Diezel]

So how long has this been going on? Vest gunning?

Well i do for a fact Alco was doing it last round and scored well and ended up with most junkies and a 190mill finnish,so im thinking to myself how is mike getting the credit

[Phillthy]

Well i do for a fact Alco was doing it last round and scored well and ended up with most junkies and a 190mill finnish,so im thinking to myself how is mike getting the credit

I have seen it years ago, but never as a strat that got you anywhere.

[Dymond]

No Mike gets cred for the low stam gunning strat.. Vest jumping.. who cares about worth.. its just fun fucking with gunners

[Diezel]

No Mike gets cred for the low stam gunning strat.. Vest jumping.. who cares about worth.. its just fun fucking with gunners

Im sure that was a mixture of people including koty who came up with that and the ot version is my strat i think half the people in here have a copy including Mike but all props to Mike and Koty and the rest for founding the basis and id say Mike is the greatest ever fb player without doubt, and vesting gunners is fun if your not on the recieving end but alco did realy well last round out of it ended with more junks than me and a 190mill score when i had about 5k junks to

[Forphucsake]

All I can say is that if PSD hadn't of gone into facebook in february and made one hell of an impression then low stam wouldn't even have been thought of. Mike, koty, the rest all hadn't thought of using guns for worth, they were just to defend your cartel. So again, bow down to PSD for what you have. :D

EDIT: And this pisses me off about you fuckwits, making sure you are in hosp to flip creds etc..

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[Brick]

No Mike gets cred for the low stam gunning strat.. Vest jumping.. who cares about worth.. its just fun fucking with gunners

I'd have to put the vast majority of the credit to a few players in Mayhem. Hunter and I talked about new concepts weeks in advance. Thorp had a major hand in drawing out worth gunning to it's fullest potential and people like Koty and Jon Bunch modified it with a few machines. All-in-all, Mayhem was built to fuck with other major cartels and we stumbled on a great game concept which has forced some changes in the game. It's good healthy and keeps us on our toes.

I for one could care less who claims anything, I'm always looking for the next big thing and if anyone is passionate about the game and new ideas, I'm always willing to talk it over. Moral of the story, any winning strat takes alot of time and more importantly teamwork.

There's little doubt that I can get a ton of junkies, but so long as there's ppl out there that'll sacrifice self for team, I'll never be able to win absolutely, rather I'm prolly best served sitting in a junkie or worther cartel, feeding them the good benefits, then removing myself so another worther can take my spot and the team can win since I'll more likely than not be suicided.

Winning outright is one thing but who really cares. Victory is best appreciated when done by the collective.

That's my thoughts, remember Zues my good friend: When I made that strat guide you scoffed at me, now you're upset over low stam gunning. :goodevil:

The question becomes will you embrace it and exploit it's weakness or will you do nothing and let low stam gunners walk all over you??

[Dymond]

I've tried my hand a few strats over the years.. none were all that successful :-). I usually just take something and look at ways to tweak it to make it better or in my case easier cause I'm DW lazy like that..

and Alan are you sitting down? Cause I think we actually agree on something for once.

[OpticaliLLusion]

:offtopic:
Fuck the purple duck...give me your junks. Machines or not, I just want your junks.

:closed:

[Az]

purple ducks purple dranks

[OpticaliLLusion]

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[Zeus]

That's my thoughts, remember Zues my good friend: When I made that strat guide you scoffed at me, now you're upset over low stam gunning. :goodevil:

The question becomes will you embrace it and exploit it's weakness or will you do nothing and let low stam gunners walk all over you??


and I still do scoff at it, its a lazy bad attitude strategy. Just ask Alan what the gunners did to him last round for using such a tactic. Like I said in B4, you better not have vest when you jump in worth because your efforts will all be in vain. Currently I have to let the them hit me in B1 because there are 2 whole mystery cartels of vesters, so Id rather lose 0 guns atm. Just remember, without us, you would be a dead fish in the water.

[Brick]

Just remember, without us, you would be a dead fish in the water.


How do you come to that conclusion?

[cunexttuesday]

and I still do scoff at it, its a lazy bad attitude strategy. Just ask Alan what the gunners did to him last round for using such a tactic. Like I said in B4, you better not have vest when you jump in worth because your efforts will all be in vain. Currently I have to let the them hit me in B1 because there are 2 whole mystery cartels of vesters, so Id rather lose 0 guns atm. Just remember, without us, you would be a dead fish in the water.

And without us Junkie players, you too would be a dead fish in the water! Perhaps all the bowing should be directed at us!!
:haha:

[Brick]

And without us Junkie players, you too would be a dead fish in the water! Perhaps all the bowing should be directed at us!!
:haha:

:bowing: it's the circle of life. but never-the-less excellent point.

IF there were no pure gunners I could gun, IF there were no junkie runners then high stam gunners would have to jump for only cash, but that wouldn't work IF there were no credit runners.

Seems to me that everyone depends on other strats for their success.

[Brick]

and I still do scoff at it, its a lazy bad attitude strategy. Just ask Alan what the gunners did to him last round for using such a tactic. Like I said in B4, you better not have vest when you jump in worth because your efforts will all be in vain. Currently I have to let the them hit me in B1 because there are 2 whole mystery cartels of vesters, so Id rather lose 0 guns atm. Just remember, without us, you would be a dead fish in the water.

As for lazy you've obviously never done it. It takes more time than any other strat. Now running machines and logging on once a day is lazy. I have to wake up at odd hours sometimes to get the best hits and I have to do it EVERY day plus watch the market constantly. As for the attitude, maybe several good gunners have turned into cocky bastards. That's a harsh generalization though. There seems to be an influx of grumpy people upset about a different way of playing this game. That seems like the bad attitude. As for the strat guide it had nothing to do with low stam gunning so you're scoffing at your own tactics.

[Diezel]

and I still do scoff at it, its a lazy bad attitude strategy. Just ask Alan what the gunners did to him last round for using such a tactic. Like I said in B4, you better not have vest when you jump in worth because your efforts will all be in vain. Currently I have to let the them hit me in B1 because there are 2 whole mystery cartels of vesters, so Id rather lose 0 guns atm. Just remember, without us, you would be a dead fish in the water.


I wonder what handle you are :P

How do you come to that conclusion?


Was thinking the same i usauly find its the noob gunners who pay best and even have some lab which is very welcome and apreatiated ;)

[EviLWaYz]

i say the strat should be made into a ban able offense :closed:

[Brick]

Was thinking the same i usauly find its the noob gunners who pay best and even have some lab which is very welcome and apreatiated ;)

I just find it funny that I was told it was impossible for a gunning cartel to win the round other than PSD, and now it's the norm. Seems like things can change and the status quo needs to be revisited. IF it was a crappy strat, then it wouldn't even be being discussed.

[Diezel]

I just find it funny that I was told it was impossible for a gunning cartel to win the round other than PSD, and now it's the norm. Seems like things can change and the status quo needs to be revisited. IF it was a crappy strat, then it wouldn't even be being discussed.


Very correct Mike and i do believe things are changing after the colapse of fb in b1 currently there are at least 40 peole running the strat i know of and it will not be long before a low stam cart takes gold me thinks, And i also find it funny gunners begging to get low stammed after slating the strat to stop getting vested and you just need to look at my sig to know it works :P

Times are changing guys adapt or be forgotting

[EviLWaYz]

Very correct Mike and i do believe things are changing after the colapse of fb in b1 currently there are at least 40 peole running the strat i know of and it will not be long before a low stam cart takes gold me thinks, And i also find it funny gunners begging to get low stammed after slating the strat to stop getting vested and you just need to look at my sig to know it works :P

Times are changing guys adapt or be forgotting
i think he have changed enuff for the FB players vets have even left the game cos of it


shit you even got Ero thinking about leaving

[Diezel]

i think he have changed enuff for the FB players vets have even left the game cos of it


shit you even got Ero thinking about leaving

Ero can leave if he wants its nothing to do with fb players and Gk if this is what your producing Best B Game Score ĢũŊŊΣR ĶĩD $141,817,012 ·42Θ ĮЙÇ· i think you would be better quitting or try a new strat :whistle:

[EviLWaYz]

Ero can leave if he wants its nothing to do with fb players and Gk if this is what your producing Best B Game Score ĢũŊŊΣR ĶĩD $141,817,012 ·42Θ ĮЙÇ· i think you would be better quitting or try a new strat :whistle:

alan show us your score thats not low stam gunning what was it oh yeah 104 mil so jog on

edit: so its not too much work found it for you alan

Dymond Devastor Sucks Dick $104,206,533 $ Hip Hop Nation $

oooooommmmmggggg your so good when your not doing low stam gunning

[Brick]

i think he have changed enuff for the FB players vets have even left the game cos of it


shit you even got Ero thinking about leaving

Fb is another devil. they made changed without thinking it through. Most of the devs there don't even play the game nor understand how changes will affect the game. But did gunners seriously never get jumped? I mean at some point they have to have MWJ, were they left alone still? Seems to be a backwards logic. At some point gunners have better payouts than worthers

if it takes 28 tokens for one jump on a worther that pays out 50 junkies

and for those same 28 tokens you can jump 7 gunners for 15 junkies each totaling 105 junkies, I'd take the 105 junkies any day of the week. Wouldn't you? You just have to get over seeing 50 junkies vs seeing 15. 15 is less, but for the same number of tokens you get more than twice the result. :gunner:

[Zeus]

Very correct Mike and i do believe things are changing after the colapse of fb in b1 currently there are at least 40 peole running the strat i know of and it will not be long before a low stam cart takes gold me thinks, And i also find it funny gunners begging to get low stammed after slating the strat to stop getting vested and you just need to look at my sig to know it works :P

Times are changing guys adapt or be forgotting

wtf are you smoking, thats like saying you are going to take 40 sellers and win on the black market. I think I remember you saying or maybe it was Mihai that the more low gunners there are it will be to difficult to play. Now with 20 low stam gunners in a cartel, who are they going to low stam? hope you dont think low stamming junkie players is gonna get you far. Bring 20 low stam gunners and watch cartels like Reds run free like wild animals doing whatever they want becasue no gunners is gonna sit there and play vest tag with you cocks all round.

[Brick]

wtf are you smoking, thats like saying you are going to take 40 sellers and win on the black market. I think I remember you saying or maybe it was Mihai that the more low gunners there are it will be to difficult to play. Now with 20 low stam gunners in a cartel, who are they going to low stam? hope you dont think low stamming junkie players is gonna get you far. Bring 20 low stam gunners and watch cartels like Reds run free like wild animals doing whatever they want becasue no gunners is gonna sit there and play vest tag with you cocks all round.

So are you saying that a cartel of all low stammers would let Reds win? I'm confused. Low stamming isn't a sure fired way to win. You have to be good at what you do and dedicated to the game or else you're just an easy means for giving out junkies. And I've always said my wet dream is a low stam cartel for me to pick off all round. suddenly that 15 junkies turns to 60 per jump b/c they're making more than the worthers by day 14.

[Diezel]

alan show us your score thats not low stam gunning what was it oh yeah 104 mil so jog on

edit: so its not too much work found it for you alan

Dymond Devastor Sucks Dick $104,206,533 $ Hip Hop Nation $

oooooommmmmggggg your so good when your not doing low stam gunning


That was my only other game i have been worthing in a b room it was on macheins the rest have been pure gunning or low stamming but ill tell you what gk ill run junkies just for you next round and blow that score out the water

wtf are you smoking, thats like saying you are going to take 40 sellers and win on the black market. I think I remember you saying or maybe it was Mihai that the more low gunners there are it will be to difficult to play. Now with 20 low stam gunners in a cartel, who are they going to low stam? hope you dont think low stamming junkie players is gonna get you far. Bring 20 low stam gunners and watch cartels like Reds run free like wild animals doing whatever they want becasue no gunners is gonna sit there and play vest tag with you cocks all round.

If the players continue to arive from fb in the numbers were seeing now it will be a possibility i know at least 2 cartels of the top cartels waiting on reset to see if there changes over there and if not they will be comuing here so remember i said this because one day it will happen

[EviLWaYz]

That was my only other game i have been worthing in a b room it was on macheins the rest have been pure gunning or low stamming but ill tell you what gk ill run junkies just for you next round and blow that score out the water



If the players continue to arive from fb in the numbers were seeing now it will be a possibility i know at least 2 cartels of the top cartels waiting on reset to see if there changes over there and if not they will be comuing here so remember i said this because one day it will happen

sure you will also that 140 mil was with machines :wank:

p.s that round that was my only worth game rest was PURE guns

[Zeus]

You are mistaken, we dont gun for 200 mil scores Brick, we gun to destroy cartels like reds and get past 100 mil atleast while at it. Maybe get some records out of it or even take the room by killing everyone. And yeah, there is a yang to your yin, if we had to sit there and waste money on vest all round, it weakens our attacks and the junkies players will soon bust free and out of our range. What fun is attacking a low stam cartel?

[Diezel]

sure you will also that 140 mil was with machines :wank:

p.s that round that was my only worth game rest was PURE guns

yeah sure it was Gk so what have you been doing in b1 last few months and now in llamas ...you are realy getting more retarded by the day :closed:

[EviLWaYz]

ok ask kack he came by and check me twice that was machines mate and also look at my comments on end of round scores


a tbh im sure BB would of handed my ass to me as half of em ive pissed off and i was running under GK

[Brick]

You are mistaken, we dont gun for 200 mil scores Brick, we gun to destroy cartels like reds and get past 100 mil atleast while at it. Maybe get some records out of it or even take the room by killing everyone. And yeah, there is a yang to your yin, if we had to sit there and waste money on vest all round, it weakens our attacks and the junkies players will soon bust free and out of our range. What fun is attacking a low stam cartel?

Well if you'd like to take out the junkie cartels wouldn't it make more sense to hit them and hit them hard. Right now in a given day, I can output 250,000 guns with full stam on day 14. If I wanted to take out a junkie cartel, I could inflict massive damage, while not risking a lost jump. So I could take 20,000 vests, and their junkies from them. As for your ying, you jump them, you may or may not win b/c their cartel strength is huge, you take about 8-9,000 vests from them and you can only do that 5-6 times a day whereas I can take out 2-3 players. Just something I'd like to point out. You can maximize your damage while still doing well. However being a gunner doesn't mean you have to jump the piss outta everyone to win. You just have to jump the right ppl at the right time.

[Zeus]

I would like to see you do this, you talk like its easy as breathing.

[Brick]

I will do it at reset, I'll even send you daily updates.

[OpticaliLLusion]

I would like to see you do this, you talk like its easy as breathing.

*breathes in...breathes out...*

[Zeus]

Reds will be in B1 or B4, you hit them and you send me your hits.

[Brick]

alright, any particular cartel I'm supposed to be in. I'd prefer a gunning cartel.

[Diezel]

ok ask kack he came by and check me twice that was machines mate and also look at my comments on end of round scores

a tbh im sure BB would of handed my ass to me as half of em ive pissed off and i was running under GK

When did i ever say it was not machiens you seriously are as thick as porridge im not even replying to you the matter of the fact is you suck enough said

I would like to see you do this, you talk like its easy as breathing.

Zeus know disrepect but i think Mike knows what hes doing and is extremly smart and organized when it comes to arrangiung dw plays and running cartels ...anyways im out im getting retarted by the second reading gks post

[EviLWaYz]

play a B game not low stam gunning see what score you get

[Zeus]

alright, any particular cartel I'm supposed to be in. I'd prefer a gunning cartel.

Now you need a gun cartel, but I thought you were the legendary Mike Brickman. You dont need a gun cart for your low stam, why one for actual gunning all the sudden.

Me B1

Reds Junkies jumped for = 1572
Low stammed junkies = 760

Im pretty sure my cartel mates and I know what it means to work for your shit pretty hard and who to jump.

[Brick]

the "legendary" Mike Brickman wanted a gunning cartel b/c I didn't want to ruin a worther's round if I'm saying in GT I'm going to be gunning for the Reds. Of course you'd think the latter. I did it, b/c I'm not selfish and I know gunners expect to be jumped.

[Buzzin]

Have i been out of this for too long to not know what low stam gunning is :whistle:

All i know is jumping gunners used to be frowned upon but seems now like its the norm :S But like someone already said times change eh haha

[supernova]

I would prefer a good vesting :haha:

Is it you Hamish? :)

[Nebiros]

brick must be retarded or something, talking big shit like he can take down worthers by low stamming, it will be funny when your "low Stam strat" either quickly kills you from losing too many jumps or changes into regular gunning because you cant break a worther, and as for jumping the right people at the right time, what a load of shit you fucks just jump everyone everyday no matter what the payout is just in case a real gunner got some junks from a worth target, you jump us because you have no other choice, low stamming is the only way you can gun from a mixed or worth cartel successfully, id like to see you try to low stam without hitting gunners, youll get 200-300 junks in th first week then quickly die off

[Nebiros]

and i forgot to mention, how do you plan on breaking reds with no stamina you would have to be worth triple what they are with only 100% stamina from a decent gun cartel, from whatever shit cartel you and your friends throw together you will need to be worth 5 times the person with 200% stam from a solid worth cartel your targeting

good luck, keep updates on forum so everyone can get a good laugh off you

[Zeus]

Hope he doesnt expect to gun form a PSD or BB cartel, talk about irony.

[Brick]

and i forgot to mention, how do you plan on breaking reds with no stamina you would have to be worth triple what they are with only 100% stamina from a decent gun cartel, from whatever shit cartel you and your friends throw together you will need to be worth 5 times the person with 200% stam from a solid worth cartel your targeting

good luck, keep updates on forum so everyone can get a good laugh off you

this criticism is bustling with so much ignorance that it pains me to even warrant a reply.

low stam gunning is gunning gunners, trying to jump other ppl would be retarded and it's focally the converse of low stam gunning. As for hitting a red-type cartel, you'd gun gunners for a week or so, get MWJ, save tokens for a day, in one big swoop get 200 stam and about 300,000 guns, I'd slow down my explanation but I don't speak fluent retarded. you don't jump them with low stam, you transition, using low stam to get enough junkies to finance jumping a worther. So chew on that for a little bit, think it over and once you realize you made a rather dumb statement both unrelated and poorly thought out, you can apologize to me.

[KoRn]

Have i been out of this for too long to not know what low stam gunning is :whistle:

All i know is jumping gunners used to be frowned upon but seems now like its the norm :S But like someone already said times change eh haha

That's all it is Buzzin, piss weak gunners with no shakes(therefore stamina) jumping gunners.
I doubt you'll find anyone who was here for the great battles would even consider doing this shit, it's weak and you need NO skill whatsoever to do it.

[Zeus]

this criticism is bustling with so much ignorance that it pains me to even warrant a reply.

low stam gunning is gunning gunners, trying to jump other ppl would be retarded and it's focally the converse of low stam gunning. As for hitting a red-type cartel, you'd gun gunners for a week or so, get MWJ, save tokens for a day, in one big swoop get 200 stam and about 300,000 guns, I'd slow down my explanation but I don't speak fluent retarded. you don't jump them with low stam, you transition, using low stam to get enough junkies to finance jumping a worther. So chew on that for a little bit, think it over and once you realize you made a rather dumb statement both unrelated and poorly thought out, you can apologize to me.


You act like its some high convoluted strategy. Wraith hit the nail on the head. Who fucking cares if you have to get up at all hrs of the night, all you are doing is chasing hospital times on GUNNERS. Fucking christ man, remove another rib why dont ya.

[Nebiros]

lmao, but gunning gunners in the first week will get you less then if you hit junkie players, with the same amount of guns. gunning gunners doesnt pay well til after the first week so when do you plan on switching?

like i said keep the forum updated when you attempt this

[Brick]

lmao, but gunning gunners in the first week will get you less then if you hit junkie players, with the same amount of guns. gunning gunners doesnt pay well til after the first week so when do you plan on switching?

like i said keep the forum updated when you attempt this

Most Working Junkies The 2nd Coming

I must be doing something wrong.

4 gunners = 16 tokens @let's say 10 junkies each
1 junkie runner takes 4 tokens, stam goes down to 160, 3% per token = roughly 13 tokens to get back up to 200% and you MIGHT get 25 junkies for 17 tokens

40 junkies for 16 tokens OR
25 for 17, plus lost income on shakes (that don't add to your worth)
you do the math.

[Brick]

You act like its some high convoluted strategy. Wraith hit the nail on the head. Who fucking cares if you have to get up at all hrs of the night, all you are doing is chasing hospital times on GUNNERS. Fucking christ man, remove another rib why dont ya.

Notice I'm not here calling you retarded for gunning. Let the scores speak for themselves and if you opt to suicide me, it only proves that you have to sacrifice yours as well as several other's round to stop my stupid little strat. So here's the rib, I bet it tastes bitter.

[KoRn]

Notice I'm not here calling you retarded for gunning. Let the scores speak for themselves and if you opt to suicide me, it only proves that you have to sacrifice yours as well as several other's round to stop my stupid little strat. So here's the rib, I bet it tastes bitter.

You don't get it do you? You think you're the first person to to do this shit? It's been going on for a long time. The difference between you and the thousands of people who were doing this while you were still just a blow stain in your mothers draws is they relised they were being pathetic fucks and stopped.
Any monkey can do this strat, it's nothing, in fact it'd be probably the easiest strat around apart from maybe machines.
Here's an idea for you, try real worth gunning. Gun fuck JUNKIE players for half the round or until your good enough to be 200-300 junkies ahead of the count. Let's see if you have any real skill.
Ohh yeah, good job giving out your name in B4, I feel like suiciding your bitch ass for the rest of the round, why?
Cause it'll be fun.
Cause you're a weak player using weak tactics.
You're defending something that, as Buzzin pointed out, is frowned apon by the real players.
I hope everyone joins me in fucking up your game.


Ohh yeah, I hope someone close to you dies of cancer, not quickly either, really slow and painfully.

Now, go hang yourself from the rafters in your garage.

[KoRn]

Here's a start:
You jump The 2nd Coming (#39) and were overpowered! In the battle you lost 9,002 guns and 46 vests, but destroyed 27 guns and 7,020 vests from your enemy.
You jump The 2nd Coming (#39) and were overpowered! In the battle you lost 6,590 guns and 38 vests, but destroyed 42 guns and 6,083 vests from your enemy.
You jump The 2nd Coming (#39) and were overpowered! In the battle you lost 6,245 guns and 44 vests, but destroyed 36 guns and 4,976 vests from your enemy.
You jump The 2nd Coming (#39) and were overpowered! In the battle you lost 7,102 guns and 37 vests, but destroyed 29 guns and 5,847 vests from your enemy.


I'll be sure to "post updates" for everyone to follow my "progress"

[Forphucsake]

wow this thread got out of hand really quick. From what I can determine this just seems to be a mismatch of priorities...

Brick/Diesel/Low Stam gunners
1. Individual score
2. Some point in time, Cartel win

Traditional Gunners
1. Destroy Junkie Players
2. Destroy Rooms
3. Cartel win
4. If possible break 100mil individual in the process


Different strokes for different folks!

[cunexttuesday]

Here's a start:
You jump The 2nd Coming (#39) and were overpowered! In the battle you lost 9,002 guns and 46 vests, but destroyed 27 guns and 7,020 vests from your enemy.
You jump The 2nd Coming (#39) and were overpowered! In the battle you lost 6,590 guns and 38 vests, but destroyed 42 guns and 6,083 vests from your enemy.
You jump The 2nd Coming (#39) and were overpowered! In the battle you lost 6,245 guns and 44 vests, but destroyed 36 guns and 4,976 vests from your enemy.
You jump The 2nd Coming (#39) and were overpowered! In the battle you lost 7,102 guns and 37 vests, but destroyed 29 guns and 5,847 vests from your enemy.


I'll be sure to "post updates" for everyone to follow my "progress"


I like your sig Wraith. Can I use it too?

[KoRn]

I like your sig Wraith. Can I use it too?

Sure ;)

[Dymond]

Now running machines and logging on once a day is lazy


That hurts man.. but its true :-)

wow this thread got out of hand really quick. From what I can determine this just seems to be a mismatch of priorities...

Brick/Diesel/Low Stam gunners
1. Individual score
2. Some point in time, Cartel win

Traditional Gunners
1. Destroy Junkie Players
2. Destroy Rooms
3. Cartel win
4. If possible break 100mil individual in the process


Different strokes for different folks!

I agree with Phuc.. Alot of people are hating on Mike for this. I here a bunch of OT old timers saying 'its not new.. your not original' but I haven't seen you guys posting those kind of scores with this supposedly 'old strat'. Seriously we spend more time fighting for our own sense of status quo than we do opening up our minds that maybe.. just maybe there are some dynamics that could change the way we play.

I played for Mike and the crew on FB and they were amazing. I've never seen a group of people that made the game as much of a science as they did since I played for TLB.

Now we just need for Jon Bunch to show up here.

[Brick]

I played for Mike and the crew on FB and they were amazing. I've never seen a group of people that made the game as much of a science as they did since I played for TLB.

Now we just need for Jon Bunch to show up here.

Thanks Dy for the kind words.

God if Bunch comes here.... I spend enough time on this game as it is... We'd spend hours a day talking about game and strats. Good times.

As for all the OT old-timers. I dislike what this thread has become, but there's a difference b/t attacking a strat and attacking a person. My original intention in writing in this thread was to open a dialogue b/t myself and many of you vets. I'm rather ashamed that I allowed my passions to cloud my better judgment. Dy and Phuc gave me the opportunity to play with OT players and it was by far one fun round which I learned a ton. It was like playing with a dysfunctional functional family and we made it look easy.
To everyone attacking me, by all means continue, it doesn't really phase me. I'll be the first to admit that low stamming exploits an obvious weakness in the game and that many people who have learned how to do it well turned into complete assholes. If you ever get a chance to talk with me you'd soon realize that team comes first in every strat I devise, bar none. I'm not even sure why I feel the need to defend myself in all of this, so I'm done. Say what you want to say. If you'd like to bounce ideas off each other, I'm here 8 hours a day if not more. And if you suicide me all round that's cool too. I'm very good at adapting and I'm honored to know that so many ppl are willing to sacrifice their own round to prevent me from doing well.

[Raskil]

If you get Bunch here I am so going back to Low Stamina gunning. The best rounds I ever played were with him especially 5 Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory (#4701) Facebook $21,177,113,081

and Alan just remember where all your junkies in that FB high score of yours came from lol

Aug=Dave Stewart (#241806) Damage Corp (#1908) $1,551,240,211 Worth Gunning
1 Damage Corp (#1908) Facebook $22,144,308,661
Jul=Obsidi�n Torm�nt (#750073) Damage Inc (#2105) $1,042,794,468 Worth Gunning
18 Damage Inc (#2105) Facebook $13,104,526,123
Jun=Obs�d��n T�rm�nt (#750073) Nọne (#6) $1,102,953,039 Worth Gunning
3 Nọne (#6) Facebook $25,277,536,302

and I cant seem to bring up any scores older than that but they are all about the same for at least 2 rounds back all worth gunning and all the cartels were Worth Gunning Cartels

[Dymond]

LOL OMG.. Jon Bunch on the forum.. I'm not sure how that would go over..

[Diezel]

Jon Bunch is a Faggot ...Can remember i called my cartel that and we had 2 or 3 in top 5 and he got the devs to delete my cartel so i formed John Bunch Is still a faggot and i do believe Ruffa even had a cartel along side them 2 with a similar name im thinking John bunch is even more a faggot all in top 5 together ,so funny good times in FB.... :haha:

R.I.P FB :(

[Raskil]

LOL OMG.. Jon Bunch on the forum.. I'm not sure how that would go over..

I have to say I dont think you are all ready for it :haha: plus Alan might cry from getting ass :shag:

[Zeus]

Whatever happened to him, I use to talk to him quit a bit on msn and gave him some neato ideas for his tracking scripts.

[Brick]

long story made short... he was spending too much time playing the game adn the wife got pissed.

[Zeus]

yeah, he would be talking to me 3am aussie time usually.

[steff]

Set up different profiles with high anonymity proxies and everything possible disabled (Java, flash etc) and counter gun the low stam gunners.

[Brick]

you can't counter gun them.

they lose 15% of their total junkies every 24 hours. you can suicide vest jump them, but an elite low stam gunner has 1,000 or less guns at any time, added more for specific targets as necessary. So even if you vest jump them they lose nothing. a low stam gunner accepts the fact that he's going to lose 15% each day.

There are 2 counter strats I've written for low stamming, but in light of the past few days I'm not exactly willing to hand them out without a hearty debate.

[steff]

Well if they don't have many guns then what's the problem with gunners gunning them? They can't (or shouldn't be able to) get so strong in worth that gunners rebound meaning you get a trash score in the end anyway.

[Forphucsake]

No, gunners will never rebound (well shouldn't be able to). As Brick said, low stammers already accept the fact that they will be jumped 5 times a day but weapon loss is very minimal. Yes they lose a lot of junks but it is more than made back with the days jumps.

So yes, I guess you could counter-gun them but all you would be doing is taking back a few junkies and not really hurting them IF you can get a hit in cause they seem to be rather popular targets..

[Zeus]

Well if they don't have many guns then what's the problem with gunners gunning them? They can't (or shouldn't be able to) get so strong in worth that gunners rebound meaning you get a trash score in the end anyway.

you wait till they make their jump in worth with vest then lotto the piss out of them. ala revenge

[Brick]

a low stam gunner acquires an absurd amount of junkies for example 2,500 when a normal junkie player would only have 1,200 if they spent all their tokens on junkies. The difference is the junkie player spends all cash on vests and is protected from jumps, while a low stam player accepts being jumped, but each day loses 15%, but gains 40%ish, so in a given day I get 500 junkies, but lose 200 for a net gain of 300. All of a low stammer's cash goes to liquid assets, mainly pimpology making their 2,500 junkies 4,000 junkies in principle. Then when they feel as though they have a competitive edge on junkie runners, they sell most or all of their credits, gets theft down to 850, then buy vests by the 100,000. hopefully thrusting themselves near or above a junkie runner with double the number of junkies. It's an art and it's difficult to transition, but when down well and when you've jumped the right people and gotten enough junkies to sustain yourself for the round, it has a high potential for scoring well while providing excellent cartel benefits.

[Zeus]

But it is a double edged sword, gunners have good memories by trade.

[Brick]

That's why you always say "Thanks for the junkies!"™ ThorpGunning L.L.C.
:O

[steff]

a low stam gunner acquires an absurd amount of junkies for example 2,500 when a normal junkie player would only have 1,200 if they spent all their tokens on junkies. The difference is the junkie player spends all cash on vests and is protected from jumps, while a low stam player accepts being jumped, but each day loses 15%, but gains 40%ish, so in a given day I get 500 junkies, but lose 200 for a net gain of 300. All of a low stammer's cash goes to liquid assets, mainly pimpology making their 2,500 junkies 4,000 junkies in principle. Then when they feel as though they have a competitive edge on junkie runners, they sell most or all of their credits, gets theft down to 850, then buy vests by the 100,000. hopefully thrusting themselves near or above a junkie runner with double the number of junkies. It's an art and it's difficult to transition, but when down well and when you've jumped the right people and gotten enough junkies to sustain yourself for the round, it has a high potential for scoring well while providing excellent cartel benefits.

That's where my opinion and yours differs then. I don't think that requires any skill at all. All it requires is you jumping good gunners. I will concede it's a clever strategy... but it's bollocks that the only retal good gunners can do to affect you is suicide. It's exactly like drug selling. Nothing a gunner does to him matters other than suiciding.

[Brick]

it's not the only thing they can do, they've got to get clever about it. As for your opinion, you're entitled to it so I won't knock it. There's 3 fun rooms opening in B games, so there's no excuse to give it a try. My belief is that many things sound easy in theory, in practice is another story. Give it a try and tell me what you think good or bad, and if you think there's room for it to be better/what its weaknesses are. :thumbs:

[Forphucsake]

That's why you always say "Thanks for the junkies!"™ ThorpGunning L.L.C.
:O

:haha: its been a while since I seen that written like that, Deisel seems to use it as his little catch phrase now, another thing Mayhem gave him lol :D

[Dymond]

Yeah but one thing they never gave him.. was an invite :P

Long live MAYHEM!

[Diezel]

Yeah but one thing they never gave him.. was an invite :P

Long live MAYHEM!

lol i had more fun taking you apart tho Dy :P

[Rexel]

a low stam gunner acquires an absurd amount of junkies for example 2,500 when a normal junkie player would only have 1,200 if they spent all their tokens on junkies. The difference is the junkie player spends all cash on vests and is protected from jumps, while a low stam player accepts being jumped, but each day loses 15%, but gains 40%ish, so in a given day I get 500 junkies, but lose 200 for a net gain of 300. All of a low stammer's cash goes to liquid assets, mainly pimpology making their 2,500 junkies 4,000 junkies in principle. Then when they feel as though they have a competitive edge on junkie runners, they sell most or all of their credits, gets theft down to 850, then buy vests by the 100,000. hopefully thrusting themselves near or above a junkie runner with double the number of junkies. It's an art and it's difficult to transition, but when down well and when you've jumped the right people and gotten enough junkies to sustain yourself for the round, it has a high potential for scoring well while providing excellent cartel benefits.



Is is a clever strat but does not take account of the 'gunners are bastards factor'.

The problem is as Dave says that PSD or British Bulldogs would just suicide you right back down again in 5 minutes flat the minute you make the 'transition' if they can be bothered to.

We would not be bothered to counteract it by getting ourselves some vests when we know we can just take you out at any time as we don't really like to get any more that a few vests to stop the odd junkie retaliation.

Gunners are bastards like that.

[steff]

it's not the only thing they can do, they've got to get clever about it. As for your opinion, you're entitled to it so I won't knock it. There's 3 fun rooms opening in B games, so there's no excuse to give it a try. My belief is that many things sound easy in theory, in practice is another story. Give it a try and tell me what you think good or bad, and if you think there's room for it to be better/what its weaknesses are. :thumbs:

Well even if the transition is hard, the accumulating junkies isn't which is the key part of the strategy (since nothing after it will work if you don't do this). I won't run it since I don't want to be a hypocrite.

[Raskil]

Is is a clever strat but does not take account of the 'gunners are bastards factor'.

The problem is as Dave says that PSD or British Bulldogs would just suicide you right back down again in 5 minutes flat the minute you make the 'transition' if they can be bothered to.

We would not be bothered to counteract it by getting ourselves some vests when we know we can just take you out at any time as we don't really like to get any more that a few vests to stop the odd junkie retaliation.

Gunners are bastards like that.

Lol and then there is another side to every coin. I got a little trick up my sleeve for every one next round me thinks. Oh what fun it will be :haha:

[Zeus]

Lol and then there is another side to every coin. I got a little trick up my sleeve for every one next round me thinks. Oh what fun it will be :haha:

could it be thugs or guns Einstein? then your whole strategy is a waste, is it not?

[Raskil]

could it be thugs or guns Einstein? then your whole strategy is a waste, is it not?

wait and see :haha: dont want to ruin the party to early