Car Tech.

[hoos]

I'm sticking this here because I believe it belongs.

Seems we have an abundance of car people here (including the Big Cheese around DW). I was wondering if someone would like to teach this guy about cars, specifically engine up-keep/installing things such as high-performance things as well as just general tinkering with what you have to get maximum performance.

2000 Honda Accord Coupe EX 3.0L V6 engine is what I have, and I know Honda's are easy to work with :orign:

[Psychostyle]

ask and ill answer.

[kurtis469]

ask and ill answer.


same here....i know enough to get by and if i dont know it its one call away and i can find out specillly honda's or acura's subarus too

[TJ60]

get rid of the accord and get a civic or an integra:cool2:

for that car just start basic, msd coil packs, cold air intake, and a better exhaust.

[kurtis469]

get rid of the accord and get a civic or an integra:cool2:

for that car just start basic, msd coil packs, cold air intake, and a better exhaust.



thats a great way to start intake ....full exhuast....short tho shift..

[Psychostyle]

lol, how do you know he has a 5 speed?

[kurtis469]

lol, how do you know he has a 5 speed?


this is true but what sane person would put performance parts on an import thats auto thats just stupid

if u put an full exhuast on an auto it sounds ugly it just is not right

[Furyous]

Sell it and buy something with a carbeuretor. You can make real horsepaower/torque with a V8. Your car can be quick, but I've got a 5,000 lb sled with a 440 in it that smokes most rice rockets I put it up against. Total cost into car and parts about $5,000. Your looking at spending some serious $ to get the same results frm a tuner! It can be done though, it's just that you're going to pay a lot more for tech parts than you will for good old fashioned speed parts!

[kurtis469]

Sell it and buy something with a carbeuretor. You can make real horsepaower/torque with a V8. Your car can be quick, but I've got a 5,000 lb sled with a 440 in it that smokes most rice rockets I put it up against. Total cost into car and parts about $5,000. Your looking at spending some serious $ to get the same results frm a tuner! It can be done though, it's just that you're going to pay a lot more for tech parts than you will for good old fashioned speed parts!



thats casue all the guy u race are prolly ricers they just make there shit look good and thats all....race a supra... or a subaru and i would say that would be a good race


there is a supra by me over a grand hp to the wheels not even a viper would race him that was a funny night

[Furyous]

Hey, not saying I haven't ever been smoked, and I'd lose my @ss to a Supra, but I have smoked a few WRX's. Remember, there is no replacement for displacement. I'm only stating that you can build a pretty quick car for less money if you buy something older, with a larger engine, and go from there. PLUS, there's nothing like the sound of my 440 dual exhaust! AND, I've got flame throwers! Much more difficult to install on a ricer, but still possible! No offense to anyone. Not here to start a fight, just think it's easier and more cost effective to work on something older. I have a 98 Ram I tried to make quick, but it was gonna cost BIG $$$ to make that happen. My Fury makes me happy!

http://www.permatouchchile.com/images/fury/fury2.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)

[TJ60]

:cool2: thats a TANK!!

an older LIGHTER CAR is cheaper to mod than the imports though. Besides how do u counter a wrx??? it's called DRAG SLICKS or DOT slicks if u wanna be street legal:cool2:

[Furyous]

You betcha but she's fast, and she's beautiful, and she's paid for! I agree. One of the biggest sleepers I ever saw was an early 80's Mercury Capri (same thing as a Mustang). It was ugly as hell, but didn't have all the tech crap on it yet. This guy was pulling the front wheels off the ground with slightly larger than stock wheels, and minimal engine upgrades. That car blew me away. The fun thing about a car like that is, it's ugly as hell, and no one thinks you'd actually spend money on such a POS, so no one takes you seriously, til you blow the doors off their dad's STI!!! If I were looking for something to be fast and fun to drive, and CHEAP, that's probably about where I'd look. It was carbeurated, and the upgrades for that car are numerous, and cheap. It'd be fun to have. It's also what makes my tank so much fun. No one thinks that it could actually be very fast, because it's so big, but she's got a high rise intake, a Barry Grant Road Demon (WAYYYY OVERSIZED) 850cfm carb, and 2 3/4 in dual exhaust. I have a monster 440 block that is in the process of being built that should produce about 650 horse, and then the old girl's gonna be a blast to drive. Full resto is on the way, just waiting for my new business to start making $. By next year should be all new paint, interior, top, and engine. I can't wait.

One more thing to remember kids. Cars like the WRX pull their power from a Turbo. I used to have a wicked fast GMC Typhoon, and am very familiar with turbo lag. A good driver can overcome the turbo lag, but in a WRX it's gonna cost you a lot of money in clutch repair, and the tool to replace the clutch is something like a $6,000 dealer only tool. Not cool. So, it's not hard to take a WRX in anything producing decent torque, because most of the guys who have already paid to replace a clutch aren't going to be dumping it very often. The Supra is a super car! I have no idea how that made that damned car so fast.
If you want to see what a real car with a nicely built (Very Expensive) engine can do click on this link. This is quite possiblythe most impressive, street driven muscle car I have ever seen. It's a twin turbo charged 71 Dodge Charger called "The Haze". It's freakin' amazing! If you have volume, turn it up, particularly for the first video. There is nothing in the world like the sound of a nicely built big block spinning turbines!!!! Here you go, check these out, you won't be sorry you did!!!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/the+haze/0/4cb43587-d4a2-403d-b590-cbd9526eb0f4.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/the+haze/0/ca3d2187-7c2d-4a7c-912f-23c01a38a437.htm

Enjoy, I'm going to put on some clean underwear. I just made a mess of myself all over again. Happens every time I watch those damned videos!!!!!
:doh:

[TJ60]

http://srvidz.vidiac.com/video/478b2088-0678-41e8-81a6-c5a6a90c317c.htm


baddest damn mustang i have ever seen. He pulls the 1000hp evo, u watch the mustangs tires he breaks traction and crosses the lane during the race and backs off. it was the only way the evo could catch him:cool2:

[Furyous]

Once again, I will state: THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!

[Psychostyle]

disagree. how many hp is your 440 putting out?

for 5 grand i can buy a civic with a blown motor and swap in a turbocharged h22a honda motor pushing 300+ horses.....in a car weighing like 2000 pounds. weight to power ratio says that will eat a 5000 pound car quick


and the kicker is: ill be able to drive mine on the street without getting 8 miles to the gallon :)

[kurtis469]

disagree. how many hp is your 440 putting out?

for 5 grand i can buy a civic with a blown motor and swap in a turbocharged h22a honda motor pushing 300+ horses.....in a car weighing like 2000 pounds. weight to power ratio says that will eat a 5000 pound car quick


and the kicker is: ill be able to drive mine on the street without getting 8 miles to the gallon :)


quoted for emphasis

[0siris]

Hey, not saying I haven't ever been smoked, and I'd lose my @ss to a Supra, but I have smoked a few WRX's. Remember, there is no replacement for displacement. I'm only stating that you can build a pretty quick car for less money if you buy something older, with a larger engine, and go from there. PLUS, there's nothing like the sound of my 440 dual exhaust! AND, I've got flame throwers! Much more difficult to install on a ricer, but still possible! No offense to anyone. Not here to start a fight, just think it's easier and more cost effective to work on something older. I have a 98 Ram I tried to make quick, but it was gonna cost BIG $$$ to make that happen. My Fury makes me happy!

http://www.permatouchchile.com/images/fury/fury2.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)




theres no way that thing is smoking WRXs buddy. well maybe if the other driver wasnt racing.
#1 old cars handle like garbage
#2 those big engines similar power to the small engines today and eat tons of gas
#3 weight
#4 A Dodge Ram!!??? and then a fury!

edit-you dont even have plates on it! and those tires! LMAO when you gettin yer licence?

Once again, I will state: THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!




biggest crock-o-shit ever spoken from a car n00b

[Psychostyle]

id maybe give him a straight wrx debo..an sti, not a chance in hell.

anyways, back on point..hoos, what do you need to know

[kurtis469]

id maybe give him a straight wrx debo..an sti, not a chance in hell.

anyways, back on point..hoos, what do you need to know


well what about an impereza 2.5rs with an sti engine and NO2 and upgraded turbo(that is self would smoke a sti stock

[0siris]

well what about an impereza 2.5rs with an sti engine and NO2 and upgraded turbo(that is self would smoke a sti stock


that basically would be an Sti with NOS and a bigger turbo. NOS isnt good btw lol

One more thing to remember kids. Cars like the WRX pull their power from a Turbo. I used to have a wicked fast GMC Typhoon, and am very familiar with turbo lag. A good driver can overcome the turbo lag, but in a WRX it's gonna cost you a lot of money in clutch repair, and the tool to replace the clutch is something like a $6,000 dealer only tool. Not cool. So, it's not hard to take a WRX in anything producing decent torque, because most of the guys who have already paid to replace a clutch aren't going to be dumping it very often. The Supra is a super car! I have no idea how that made that damned car so fast.
If you want to see what a real car with a nicely built (Very Expensive) engine can do click on this link. This is quite possiblythe most impressive, street driven muscle car I have ever seen. It's a twin turbo charged 71 Dodge Charger called "The Haze". It's freakin' amazing! If you have volume, turn it up, particularly for the first video. There is nothing in the world like the sound of a nicely built big block spinning turbines!!!! Here you go, check these out, you won't be sorry you did!!!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/the+haze/0/4cb43587-d4a2-403d-b590-cbd9526eb0f4.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/the+haze/0/ca3d2187-7c2d-4a7c-912f-23c01a38a437.htm

Enjoy, I'm going to put on some clean underwear. I just made a mess of myself all over again. Happens every time I watch those damned videos!!!!!
:doh:



You are a complete tool. you know absolutely nothing about this subject and yet you act like your the man."One more thing to remember kids" -i cant believe you have the balls! LMAO
this entire thread should be deleted for the sake of being laughed at by the reset of the net:Pc:

just because you owned one turbocharged vehicle your the turbo guru right. First and foremost American vehicles are shit.
second this-the tool to replace the clutch is something like a $6,000 dealer only tool.-is BS if you think theres a tool for the clutch that cost more than the trans you smoke crack. You also wouldnt be replacing the clutch after several launches...youll replace 1st gear after you shatter it:)
Supras go fast because of the turbo too...search b4 u speak ;)

[BRR]

:love1: Cadillac CTS-V (http://i.waper.ru/seawx.jpg):love1:


and i have a car question.. when i install my deck (sony cdx mp70) will the volume and radio controls that are on my 97 grand prix's steering wheel work?

[0siris]

if theres nessessary wiring from the new unit...youll know if you get a few left over wires.

[Psychostyle]

:love1: Cadillac CTS-V (http://i.waper.ru/seawx.jpg):love1:


and i have a car question.. when i install my deck (sony cdx mp70) will the volume and radio controls that are on my 97 grand prix's steering wheel work?

you need a different module for that brr

http://www.tune-town.com/Cars/stuff/steering_wheel.htm

you can get em off ebay but they are about 50$

(i assume its remote capable)

and debo, this aint AIW, if its not constructive in here, dont say it please.

[0siris]

there was nothing constructive of what he wrote in ALL of his posts...its what i do for a living and ignorance offends me.

and it was constructive what i said^ theres no 6 thousand dollar tool

[Furyous]

Wow, sorry your mad Debo.
You shouldn't let such trivial things work you up like that, it's not good for your blood pressure, and some day you're gonna have a heart attack. I think you need to also look up things before you speak about them. Do you know what it is that gets a car moving? Let me give you a hint. It's not horsepower. Horsepower is for top speed, TORQUE makes a car launch. Like I said, my car is nothing super, but it has toasted quite a few angry little rice rocket drivers, stock tires, weight and all. The 440 I have in it is a survivor 90,000 mile engine. It's got plenty of life left in it, but it is by no means a race engine. It would not have beaten my Typhoon, but it has beaten two WRX's in "stop light drags". Like I said, I've been smoked by lots of cars, but the torque created by that motor gives me tremendous launch power versus a turbo that has to get the RPMs up to reach it's power. My gears are also very tall, and where I got the WRX's was when they'd reach for a gear, I was still pushing forward, while they were reaching. Talk all the shit you want, doesn't matter to me. I love my ugly boat, it's a convertible, and it's great fun to drive. What are you driving? BTW, my car has never been dynoed, obviously, and you can pull whatever numbers you want for the HP/Torque rating on that engine, but none of them would be accurate. The only way to know is to dyno it, and I'm not about to dyno a 440/727 combo with 90,000+ miles on it. I'm also not a street racer. I played that game for a while when I was a kid. I'm done paying all my tickets, and don't wish to go back there. It's too bad you have to be so angry. I've always thought car guys should stick together. You have the right to build whatever you want, and I hope you enjoy whatever that is as much as I enjoy my car. I'm sorry your opinions differ from my own, but I'm not upset about it. Did you watch that video of the charger? Did you hear that monster? How can that not be cool to you? I think it's one of the most beautiful sounds in the world. It also nearly reached 175mph in the 1/4. PLUS he drove that car to the track, AND back home!!!
Again sorry your mad. Sorry I have a differing opinion that makes you angry. Build what you like and like what you build, but be open to the fact that you are always going to know someone with something that's better than what you've got. Like I said I've been toasted alot. I like to cruise in my car when I can afford the gas, which, as you pointed out is not often (it gets 12 miles per gallon, on a good day). I like it, I have fun in it, and that's all that matters to me.

[BRR]

you need a different module for that brr

http://www.tune-town.com/Cars/stuff/steering_wheel.htm

you can get em off ebay but they are about 50$

(i assume its remote capable)

and debo, this aint AIW, if its not constructive in here, dont say it please.


tha'ts better than the $200 "soundgate adapter" i found. thanks.

[kurtis469]

that basically would be an Sti with NOS and a bigger turbo. NOS isnt good btw lol

yea but u wouldnt be putting a 150 shot or anything big i would have a 75 shot of the engine and something small to spray on the intercooler (kinda how the new sti have the water sprayer in the hoodscoop)

[0siris]

Wow, sorry your mad Debo and Psycho.
You shouldn't let such trivial things work you up like that, it's not good for your blood pressure, and some day you're gonna have a heart attack. I think both of you need to also look up things before you speak about them. Do you know what it is that gets a car moving? Let me give you a hint. It's not horsepower. Horsepower is for top speed, TORQUE makes a car launch. Like I said, my car is nothing super, but it has toasted quite a few angry little rice rocket drivers, stock tires, weight and all. The 440 I have in it is a survivor 90,000 mile engine. It's got plenty of life left in it, but it is by no means a race engine. It would not have beaten my Typhoon, but it has beaten two WRX's in "stop light drags". Like I said, I've been smoked by lots of cars, but the torque created by that motor gives me tremendous launch power versus a turbo that has to get the RPMs up to reach it's power. My gears are also very tall, and where I got the WRX's was when they'd reach for a gear, I was still pushing forward, while they were reaching. Talk all the shit you want, doesn't matter to me. I love my ugly boat, it's a convertible, and it's great fun to drive. What are you driving? BTW, my car has never been dynoed, obviously, and you can pull whatever numbers you want for the HP/Torque rating on that engine, but none of them would be accurate. The only way to know is to dyno it, and I'm not about to dyno a 440/727 combo with 90,000+ miles on it. I'm also not a street racer. I played that game for a while when I was a kid. I'm done paying all my tickets, and don't wish to go back there. It's too bad you have to be so angry. I've always thought car guys should stick together. You have the right to build whatever you want, and I hope you enjoy whatever that is as much as I enjoy my car. I'm sorry your opinions differ from my own, but I'm not upset about it. Did you watch that video of the charger? Did you hear that monster? How can that not be cool to you? I think it's one of the most beautiful sounds in the world. It also nearly reached 175mph in the 1/4. PLUS he drove that car to the track, AND back home!!!
Again sorry your mad. Sorry I have a differing opinion that makes you angry. Build what you like and like what you build, but be open to the fact that you are always going to know someone with something that's better than what you've got. Like I said I've been toasted alot. I like to cruise in my car when I can afford the gas, which, as you pointed out is not often (it gets 12 miles per gallon, on a good day). I like it, I have fun in it, and that's all that matters to me.

First of all its what i do for a living bud. Second your spreading rumors.
your car looks like it has sat for years and never raced a wrx. and if it did they either A.didnt know they were racing or B.didnt have the first clue how to drive. its common sence ,your car with those tires and suspension will never compete to a stock wrx. its proven a stock WRX with the right driver can pull 1.7 sec 60ft times. Also you said something in another post here about a mustang lifting the front wheels with minor mods done. You run yer mouth more than you run yer car. Also you first you said you raced from stop lights then you said you dont race...make up yer mind. Tremendous launch power i belive you wrote too...LMAO thats the biggest advantage a WRX has in a drag race.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1052199&highlight=60ft

yea but u wouldnt be putting a 150 shot or anything big i would have a 75 shot of the engine and something small to spray on the intercooler (kinda how the new sti have the water sprayer in the hoodscoop)

NOS into the engine is no good buddy, unless you do supporting mods but its pointless. Alky injection is better but i choose neither. If you own a Subaru PM me ;)
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1052852&highlight=nitrous

[Psychostyle]

furyus, why wouldnt any numbers pulled be accurate? you have something special done to the motor? otherwise it wouldnt be hard to generate hp/ torque figures, at least motor wise, and you can guesstimate around a 10-15% power loss thru the drivetrain to the wheels for wheel hp..how much boost are you pushing into the motor? any juice ( prolly not in a 90k motor, eh)

ps..brr no prob, its what i do, lol

[hoos]

Ehhh psytle, I don't really need to know anything specific. I really just wanted to read info on cars and how people fix them up b/c I never have been around garages much. I think that you should make a Car Tech sub-board under Tech discussion personally. Specially if Jock's going to advertise oddthought on PINKS :orign:

[0siris]

not true...but ima let you guys have yer fun. when the wrong information is exchanged and someone gets in a jam, ill just laugh my ass off :)

if you think this is the appropriate place for automotive information thats fine, i mean those other forums dont even have games to play...gosh!


um... there were 2 posts here before, whered they go?

[Psychostyle]

there are enough professionals here, why look elsewhere if people know stuff here.. if nobody encouraged you to wrench on your shit would you be a mech now?

[0siris]

dude yer outta line, im trying to let people know that there not gonna get the info they need here. Have fun now im pissed good luck at advance auto parts ( retard city).

Heres helpful information. Anything you buy from Autozone,Advanced,Pep Boys, will fail. You cant argue P cause you sell em. I diag and replace em ;)

[Abstract]

DEBO told me to sign up and post this: http://www.howstuffworks.com/

and to enforce that this is a game forum,he is also telling me to say thanks for the ban p-style,youd rather have make believe and hearsay than facts in your forum. thats all ima put sorry DEBO but i dont want a ban too lol

i did read the thread and if i was gonna do a clutch on a subaru i woulda asked subaru about a 6,000 dollar tool and felt like an idiot. Hes right,there are forums set up for this. But im not gettin involved.


hes buggin me to write that hes putting strats and all dopewars info in his subaru forum along with this thread

[Psychostyle]

DEBO told me to sign up and post this: http://www.howstuffworks.com/

and to enforce that this is a game forum,he is also telling me to say thanks for the ban p-style,youd rather have make believe and hearsay than facts in your forum. thats all ima put sorry DEBO but i dont want a ban too lol

i did read the thread and if i was gonna do a clutch on a subaru i woulda asked subaru about a 6,000 dollar tool and felt like an idiot. Hes right,there are forums set up for this. But im not gettin involved.


hes buggin me to write that hes putting strats and all dopewars info in his subaru forum along with this thread


and that shows how little debo pays attention, as this is not a game forum. it is a general forum that happens to have support for games on it. the forum is not called "the dopewars forum", nor will it be. i told debo if he wanted to go mouth off about stuff there was a section for that too. he chose not to listen and its far easier to remove him from the section than to always come back and delete garbage not intended to teach anything.
People were looking for general information, not how to do motor swaps or auto/manual conversions. they wanted general stuff.

Finally, debo is not the only mechanic on earth, nor will he always be right. transfer of information, right or wrong, will never be bad. end of story. people posting shit like, OMG< YOUR ALL STUPID IF YOU GET ANY ADVICE ANYWHERE BUT ALL THE COOL ASS CARFORUMS ARE DUMB..are what makes it useless.

as a post-note, i am a member of JBODY.org, V6z24.com, honda tuning.com and a few other "registered" car sites, and there is FAR more shit info there than there will ever be here, mainly because if i dont have the answer i wont speak out of my ass about it.

[Psychostyle]

not true...but ima let you guys have yer fun. when the wrong information is exchanged and someone gets in a jam, ill just laugh my ass off :)

if you think this is the appropriate place for automotive information thats fine, i mean those other forums dont even have games to play...gosh!


um... there were 2 posts here before, whered they go?


Final Note: If you so strongly despise wrong information, why did you bother to reply to BRR's Radio question with an obviously wrong answer..do you tell your subi owners who are trying to wire an ecu..oh if you have some extra wires left over thats prolly what they are for?..i thought not.

[beanz]

nah man fuck the accord..buy a honda prelude..those are nice and fast!

[Psychostyle]

ive got one lol..next one i want is a gen 3 with 4 wheel steering :)