Premium Accounts now Free, OMG NO FAIR IWANTAREFUNDDAMNIT

[Jacx]

So the day come and now its official that we are now offering premium accounts for free.

At some point in the future, all accounts will have to be via premium account.

So for those that in the past who had the benefit of a premium becuase they donated to the costs of the server so others could play for free we thank you!

Because its now free, those that wish to claim a rebate on the donation may claim codes upto equal value.

To do this from Monday Jan 26th you can email dopewarsonline@yahoo.com

You will be required to provide the following info.

Handle Name:

Handle Password:

Email address linked to premium:

Amount of codes requested, you can request up to $30 worth of codes. All codes will be in increments of $10.


Relative questions: I will add questions and answers on this thread as we go along as im not sure what your all gonna hit me with :S

Question:
I did not buy my premium, it was given to me, can I still claim the codes?

Answer:
No, premium accounts are not supposed to be transferable, if you was lucky enough that someone donated towards the servers with the purchase of a premium account who then gave it to you only they can claim the refund, and of course what they do with those codes is up to them.

You will be required to provide the following info.

Handle Name:

Handle Password:



does that mean your premmie login info?

Yes but with email address registered with the account included.

good point thats hell of alot of access. who will be doing the refunds jacx???
certain admin i dont want anywhere near my prem lol

Only I will be issuing the refunds using information already issued to me.

hey i paid $40 :(

How the hell did you manage that...its a fixed price :S

do you mean sunday the 25th or monday the 26th?

Fixed, 26th.

Emailed question:- Why are you bothering to offer amount up to $30?

Basically the premium setup was another way of funding the cost of servers, so for some people its just a way to support the site and thus some people are choosing not to claim codes.

1) Is there a closing date?

Currently there is no set closing date but that might get changed in the distant future!

2) Premium accounts were always advertised as an open-ended service. A one-off fee allowed users to use this service for life-time. Should there be any premium services in the future (whatever those might be), will the users who paid for this promise be entitled to any potentially upcoming premium offers without any additional charges? Also, would they waive this privilege if they claimed a refund in donation codes?

Anyone that would say claim the codes would loose entitlement to a new service that could be potentially offered in the future, however seeing as nothing is currently planned, I will leave that to someone else to call on when the time comes!

3) Why are people that purchased their premium account in V1 days excluded?

Where in this first post did I say that? ... Yes its something i might of said in a accusations, insults and whining thread but thats becuase it was there where i can express my view in a "less democratic way".

So in answer, if you paid for the premium in v1, you may claim the codes if you wish, if you won the premium as a prize (and yes im trying to find that list), don't bother trying to claim.

Why say it in AIW anyway? becuase for someone to use a product for 3-4 years and then to claim the codes after having the benifit all this time, is frankly quite weak, however thats my view and not that of the company!

4) Will people who paid for their premium account with codes be entitled to request a refund in codes?

Yes

ya i am on tim's side for this one

what difference does it make when we bought the preemie accs... because i am an old school vet and i bought mine in V1 days i am suddenly not able to get them now?

See above, it does not make any difference...ish!

I agree with ridge - keep my 20dollars.

Although if you are going to hand out codes it would only be fair to give them to V1 and V2 premie holders.

I say just dont give anyone currently holding premies anything and open up new premiums accounts to anyone as you see fit and put it down to deflation:-)

Thank you for your donation sir, however as for future premiums there are no plans currently so if I am still in this position then, I shall have to work that out!

I think only people that have paid for a premmie in say, the last 6 months should be able to claim a refund/code.
I've had one for over 3 years and I feel I've well and truely got my moneys worth.
Anyone that claims a code that's had the premmie for over 1 year is a tight cunt and should take a look in the mirror.

Quoted for the fact I cannot say it...muhahhaha, and thanks for the donation sir, glad it was of use!

:haha: am i glad i not got your job jacx.cant be easy answering all these questions and getting shafted by at least 1-2 people for every decision you make.
keep up the good work mate

Thank you!

[Infidel]

Question:
I did not buy my premium, it was given to me, can I still claim the codes?

Answer:
No, premium accounts are not supposed to be transferable, if you was lucky enough that someone donated towards the servers with the purchase of a premium account who then gave it to you only they can claim the refund, and of course what they do with those codes is up to them.

what he means is, if you had your premi bought for you. don't fucking tell him! just get the free codes and be happy

[pinzNneedlz]

mine was purchased for me, and i actually paid for one for somebody else that never paid me even though they promised they would...i guess that's karma to her, and happy news to me that the persone that bought mine will get his money back in a round about kind of way...

[fire]

does this mean they can use the names i had premied?

jacx i need all my premies reset so i know what the passwords are... and i cant e-mail....
how would i claim mine?

[JMouse]

hey i paid $40 :(

[Carping]

:yay: more codes for me :P

[Essayeffsee]

You will be required to provide the following info.

Handle Name:

Handle Password:



does that mean your premmie login info?

[Carping]

You will be required to provide the following info.

Handle Name:

Handle Password:



does that mean your premmie login info?

good point thats hell of alot of access. who will be doing the refunds jacx???
certain admin i dont want anywhere near my prem lol

[Duffman]

hey i paid $40 :(

then you got ripped off lol why the hell would u pay that? its not option u dont get to choose how much you pay for it, its a set price and was never 40 bucks

[andrius]

im geting codes:yay: i can fight for overal :bleh:

[nj gangsta]

To do this from Monday Jan 25th you can email [EMAIL="dopewarsonline@yahoo.com"]dopewarsonline@yahoo.com

do you mean sunday the 25th or monday the 26th?

[Jacx]

answered on first post

[Duffman]

not realy jacx cos the 25th is sunday and monday is the 26th lol

[Ridgeback]

Well, I for one will NOT be asking for a refund in codes. Yes I paid for my premi, but then I helped the game by helping to finance the servers, which in the beginning when I started, were quite frankly, shit.

You lot are tight fuckers. Next we'll be getting people asking for their donations back because if they had had a free premi, they wouldn't have had to donate.

[Cheeky]

hey i paid $40 :(

I paid $43 for mine..damn exchange rates :bat:

[Edsel Dope]

Well even though i really would like too have some codes so i can keep up with everybody in the next few rounds im gonna tell You too keep the codes and count mine as a donation...Thnks for keeping up the good work

[Diezel]

Well even though i really would like too have some codes so i can keep up with everybody in the next few rounds im gonna tell You too keep the codes and count mine as a donation...Thnks for keeping up the good work


Nicely put Edsel, But i was thinking that if everyone gave jacx the codes to keep we could all play for them in a lower b room ie b3 or b4 ,and the codes go to the top 5 players WHO HAVE GIVING the codes to jacx ,just a thought

[tim|away]

To do this from Monday Jan 26th you can email dopewarsonline@yahoo.com


1) Is there a closing date?

2) Premium accounts were always advertised as an open-ended service. A one-off fee allowed users to use this service for life-time. Should there be any premium services in the future (whatever those might be), will the users who paid for this promise be entitled to any potentially upcoming premium offers without any additional charges? Also, would they waive this privilege if they claimed a refund in donation codes?

Any tit that requests a refund from v1 days can bugger off too lol

3) Why are people that purchased their premium account in V1 days excluded?

4) Will people who paid for their premium account with codes be entitled to request a refund in codes?

[holy shit]

ya i am on tim's side for this one

what difference does it make when we bought the preemie accs... because i am an old school vet and i bought mine in V1 days i am suddenly not able to get them now?

[Diezel]

:haha: Tim ,the voice of reason

[Az]

gotta say tim hit it right on the head

[Rexel]

Well, I for one will NOT be asking for a refund in codes. Yes I paid for my premi, but then I helped the game by helping to finance the servers, which in the beginning when I started, were quite frankly, shit.

You lot are tight fuckers. Next we'll be getting people asking for their donations back because if they had had a free premi, they wouldn't have had to donate.


I agree with ridge - keep my 20dollars.

Although if you are going to hand out codes it would only be fair to give them to V1 and V2 premie holders.

I say just dont give anyone currently holding premies anything and open up new premiums accounts to anyone as you see fit and put it down to deflation:-)

[KoRn]

I think only people that have paid for a premmie in say, the last 6 months should be able to claim a refund/code.
I've had one for over 3 years and I feel I've well and truely got my moneys worth.
Anyone that claims a code that's had the premmie for over 1 year is a tight cunt and should take a look in the mirror.

[Carping]

:haha: am i glad i not got your job jacx.cant be easy answering all these questions and getting shafted by at least 1-2 people for every decision you make.
keep up the good work mate

[Jacx]

updated first post with Q & A

[Diezel]

Im happy to do with without the codes ,i still stick by that EVERYONE who as had a premmie as had an advantage over the field and Jacx you are my regular supply of codes anyways from war b :hehe:

[Diogee]

I am glad to say I got my $20 use out of mine and anyone that had a premie from V1 should agree and say fuck a refund because its a feature that saved soooo many time whether it was "great" or not. So if I hear any of you "Vets" claiming codes I will bitch slap the fuck out of you!

One last thing anyone that gets a refund code is a bitch (I know not aiw but fuckit)
DopeWars Online Refund Policy (http://play.treadon.us/policy/refundpolicy.php)

that is part of the user agreement pretty much everyone has agreed to one time or another

[steff]

Mine was bought with a gold medal from Daqqers so if DC/She Cat/Ridge wants the $ they can have it. I personally don't want the codes anyway.

[Buzzin]

Call me a tight fucker but if im getting offered some donation codes for sending jacx some info then fuck me im gunna do it :D Not exactly gunna cost you any money!

[herojuana]

Call me a tight fucker but if im getting offered some donation codes for sending jacx some info then fuck me im gunna do it :D Not exactly gunna cost you any money!

i get the feeling any reds that werent gonna claim their codes will now!!

[Duffman]

i was guna already lol buzzin makes a fair point if u ask me, hes offering codes why wudnt you take em haha

[newportbadboy]

everyone like jacx said ,pm me ur details and i will take care of the issue :)

[$treet pharmaci$t]

Exactly there codes they dont cost anymoney I wont feel bad asking for some codes. Now If it was money I woulld say keep it I got my moneys worth for sure

[Zeus]

Well, I for one will NOT be asking for a refund in codes. Yes I paid for my premi, but then I helped the game by helping to finance the servers, which in the beginning when I started, were quite frankly, shit.

You lot are tight fuckers. Next we'll be getting people asking for their donations back because if they had had a free premi, they wouldn't have had to donate.


You can keep mine also, it no biggie

[e11even]

bunch of whiners :P we have to renew our premis every few months in GC.

[BIGRICK]

I'll be claiming for my donation. I paid for my premmie and feel that i did contribute towards the new servers etc etc so i wont feel bad accepting codes (which cost Treadon nothing) And i'll just consider it a THANKYOU from treadon for helping them get to where they are today :D



Yeah i said it Diogee :P

[Duffman]

I'll be claiming for my donation. I paid for my premmie and feel that i did contribute towards the new servers etc etc so i wont feel bad accepting codes (which cost Treadon nothing) And i'll just consider it a THANKYOU from treadon for helping them get to where they are today :D



Yeah i said it Diogee :P

qouted for emphasis

[Kloaked Spirit]

Except that the codes do cost money. You are now getting something for free that you would normally be paying cash for (you know, the exact claim that you're using to state that you're entitled to a refund in the first place.) That would be money out of the OT pocketbook by any business model's point of view.

[curlybogtrotter]

Free premies don't seem to be working :S

[BIGRICK]

Except that the codes do cost money. You are now getting something for free that you would normally be paying cash for (you know, the exact claim that you're using to state that you're entitled to a refund in the first place.) That would be money out of the OT pocketbook by any business model's point of view.


Codes do not cost money.... What a load of shit.

And if someone donated every month and also got those codes i'm sure they would use the codes and still donate as they usually would :S



I think you just like disagreeing with people KS :bleh:

[Kloaked Spirit]

Codes do not cost money.... What a load of shit.

And if someone donated every month and also got those codes i'm sure they would use the codes and still donate as they usually would :S

I think you just like disagreeing with people KS :bleh:

They don't cost money to create (unless there's a miniscule cost in processing.) The cost involved is an opportunity cost, which is as real of an economic loss for a business as any. I can either give you a code worth $20 for free, or sell it to you for $20. I choose to give it to you for free. I've just lost a potential $20 in revenue.

That's how the codes cost money for OT.

[BIGRICK]

They don't cost money to create (unless there's a miniscule cost in processing.) The cost involved is an opportunity cost, which is as real of an economic loss for a business as any. I can either give you a code worth $20 for free, or sell it to you for $20. I choose to give it to you for free. I've just lost a potential $20 in revenue.

That's how the codes cost money for OT.




I dissagree.

If you had an endless supply of water and charged $1 for a drink but then decided 1 day to give a few loyal customers a free drink.......
What have you lost, the water costs you nothing and is of infinite quantity.

People will always be thirsty and come back to pay for more.


Water = codes. (for the special people among us )

:foryou:

[newportbadboy]

I dissagree.

If you had an endless supply of water and charged $1 for a drink but then decided 1 day to give a few loyal customers a free drink.......
What have you lost, the water costs you nothing and is of infinite quantity.

People will always be thirsty and come back to pay for more.


Water = codes. (for the special people among us )

:foryou:


is it sparkling water:thumbs:

[Duffman]

is it sparkling water:thumbs:

the mans giving you free water dont be fucking greedy

[herojuana]

I dissagree.

If you had an endless supply of water and charged $1 for a drink but then decided 1 day to give a few loyal customers a free drink.......
What have you lost, the water costs you nothing and is of infinite quantity.

People will always be thirsty and come back to pay for more.


Water = codes. (for the special people among us )

:foryou:

im gonna hold out for free beer then... god knows i buy enough of that! :burp:

[Kloaked Spirit]

I dissagree.

If you had an endless supply of water and charged $1 for a drink but then decided 1 day to give a few loyal customers a free drink.......
What have you lost, the water costs you nothing and is of infinite quantity.

People will always be thirsty and come back to pay for more.

Water = codes. (for the special people among us )

:foryou:

You think that I'm arguing a different point than what I'm really arguing against.

Your initial point was that "codes don't cost money." I disagreed with that based on the fact that the codes which could be bringing revenue are now being given out. That's revenue taken away from OT.

Let's take your example. The person selling water is still out a few dollars that he could have obtained should he continue to have sold water and never gave out the freebies to the loyal customers. That is a cost to him as it does reduce the revenue he would have otherwise had. That was my argument against the "codes are free" statement.

The point that you're arguing is that overall for OT it would be better to absorb that cost and give the freebies as a show of goodwill. That is a different point all together, and one that I don't disagree with (to a point - I think if you used premium acct advantages for years, you are being a little bit scrooge-like. That's just opinion though.)

[BIGRICK]

Ok, we are both right :)

Maybe i'm being a bit of a scrooge..... but we're in a god damn resession over here :haha:

opinions and assholes eh??? ;)

[Edsel Dope]

Nicely put Edsel, But i was thinking that if everyone gave jacx the codes to keep we could all play for them in a lower b room ie b3 or b4 ,and the codes go to the top 5 players WHO HAVE GIVING the codes to jacx ,just a thought

Do people get into trouble for fucking around on ur account threw your Premie what do u think of that Diezel

[Diezel]

Do people get into trouble for fucking around on ur account threw your Premie what do u think of that Diezel


What do i think of what Mr Multy,Ive been waiting for this day so hard to bite my toungue when me and a few others have been watching you play multys since you came back like the current b1 and b2 :whistle: and what do you mean fucking around on your accounts ive did nothing but copy paste your list all round ,you been a good man with the info edsel top bloke ,keep up the good work :foryou:

[KoRn]

KS is spot on and I'm glad someone else said it before I got the chance to. These free codes will absoulety cost OT money.
Let's say 20 people that usually donate use these codes instead (remeber, only one donation is allowed per account regardless of value) then there's $400 lost potential revenue, say those people usually donate $40, then there's $800 lost pontential revenue in one month. For a company that works off bare bones to begin with that's a massive loss.
We get to play this game FREE, 90%(estimate) of internet games are subscription. People pay, what, $30 a month to play WoW? I know this is a text based game but the same rules apply. Why shouldn't OT make a subscription fee of $5 a month for use of there resources?
Instead of bitching about people now getting premmies free you should be thanking Rit and the OT staff for giving us such a great game FREE.
In any case this isn't a huge leap in service provision for a company to drop a cost of said service. It happens all the time, the old becomes free, the new paid. Sure Jacx has stated that there isn't any new content in the works but that's right now, six months down the track who knows.
So, for christ sake, don't bother admin with these stupid claims of a code, thank them for the service in the first place.

[Diogee]

KS is spot on and I'm glad someone else said it before I got the chance to. These free codes will absoulety cost OT money.
Let's say 20 people that usually donate use these codes instead (remeber, only one donation is allowed per account regardless of value) then there's $400 lost potential revenue, say those people usually donate $40, then there's $800 lost pontential revenue in one month. For a company that works off bare bones to begin with that's a massive loss.
We get to play this game FREE, 90%(estimate) of internet games are subscription. People pay, what, $30 a month to play WoW? I know this is a text based game but the same rules apply. Why shouldn't OT make a subscription fee of $5 a month for use of there resources?
Instead of bitching about people now getting premmies free you should be thanking Rit and the OT staff for giving us such a great game FREE.
In any case this isn't a huge leap in service provision for a company to drop a cost of said service. It happens all the time, the old becomes free, the new paid. Sure Jacx has stated that there isn't any new content in the works but that's right now, six months down the track who knows.
So, for christ sake, don't bother admin with these stupid claims of a code, thank them for the service in the first place.



What him and KS have sail!!!

Also If you do claim a code and a new premie is released you will have to pay for that which means now you have payed twice for premies and only got some donation codes :moon:

Where as I am proud to say I have had my premie for years and even though I dont stock 40+ accounts in it each month I have a very simple layout of my games with little effort to login to each. Is it worth $20/$30? I think so...

Also by me not asking for a foolish $20 code I have a chance at having any new type of premie for free so suck my dick bitches (I know again not AIW but :moon: )

[T.c.a.]

I've had my premmie for years and wouldnt ask for a code anyways, but i cant, it was a gift from a friend lol.

Thanks for all your hard work john and keep it going. :)

[6m$SexGod]

Alan, you really should do some investigating instead of just jumping at Edsel running multies, the fact is that he shares his prem with another fellow red called Chupito, and if you were actually aware, chupito has played non stop this year so couldnt have been Patrick!

Not happy with you Scotty Boy!

[DarkNebula]

Why don't you just stop biting everytime he opens his mouth.... muppet

[6m$SexGod]

Why don't you just stop biting everytime he opens his mouth.... muppet

I aint biting shit, im just putting him right, spreading shit that he knows nothing about! Thats all! :bleh:

[Smash Bros]

i was given mine by reds and had all details changed over to me.

BUT seeing as i no longer play i dont care about codes even if im eligable.

therefore if i am eligable for my codes you can choose jacx (i dont care) to either say fuck you all its mine mwahahahahahahaha

OR

add them on to the current prize pool for the games. i got alot from this game including heaps of friends sooo thats my way of saying ty i guess.


but as i said is your call.

[T.c.a.]

John, i have a premmie that was given to me by someone else ages ago, why the fuck am i suddenly not able to claim free tokens? instead i get the "sign up for your free premmie now" bullshite >.>

[swiss miss]

John, i have a premmie that was given to me by someone else ages ago, why the fuck am i suddenly not able to claim free tokens? instead i get the "sign up for your free premmie now" bullshite >.>

im still claiming my free tokens, cartel discussion in TT :yay:

i need to read this thread properly at some point to get my head around things

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

John, i have a premmie that was given to me by someone else ages ago, why the fuck am i suddenly not able to claim free tokens? instead i get the "sign up for your free premmie now" bullshite >.>

im getting the same screen... and a few of my cartel members havent been able to even sign up for the new premium account... whats really going on here...

[Beckjo1]

i can't claim mine either .. same thing

im getting the same screen... and a few of my cartel members havent been able to even sign up for the new premium account... whats really going on here...

[pinzNneedlz]

:offtopic: but i think i found the name of the latest super merge cartel name in a1 this round NOFAIRIWANTAREFUNDDAMNIT :haha::haha:

[Beckjo1]

what/ pimpz & dunder?

it'll probably be screwed up again :whistle:

:offtopic: but i think i found the name of the latest super merge cartel name in a1 this round NOFAIRIWANTAREFUNDDAMNIT :haha::haha:

[OpticaliLLusion]

I just want my free premmie >.>

[thisguychris]

I can't remember the passwords for my two...

thisguychris

and

Northwest Connection

...and if you wouldn't mind pm'ing me the response, thanks!

also, psycho owes me $120 in codes for putting him up in hotels - once in boston and once during his road trip with kitty... any chance for those?

[I Got Priors]

I can't remember the passwords for my two...

thisguychris

and

Northwest Connection

...and if you wouldn't mind pm'ing me the response, thanks!

also, psycho owes me $120 in codes for putting him up in hotels - once in boston and once during his road trip with kitty... any chance for those?


Ah..ya, you aint special buddy! PM the e-mail addy provided in the 1st post! :hehe:

I got my codes! ThX JacX!

[Beckjo1]

I got mine as well

kudos for handling them fast jacx

hope they are good forever. not sure when and if I will use them.

I'm stepping away from the game after I get my cartel through this round

Ah..ya, you aint special buddy! PM the e-mail addy provided in the 1st post! :hehe:

I got my codes! ThX JacX!