Low Stam Gunning

[Dont Front]

wat should we do about this Low Stam Gunning......

[Sir Mankalot]

jumps are already too limited with people in the hospital and if you lose too many.

and admin can't just restrict one legit strat and not the others in some way.

it is a 100% legit strat...nothing can be done.

[herojuana]

personally i would rather be low stammed than vested... that seems to be the options at the moment...

[Zeus]

Most of the low stam gunning happens the first two weeks. So Ive been experimenting with just jumping for 150-200 junkies to maintain stamina and build my gun presses till the market drops to my liking. Then I start making choice jumps for junkies until about 750-1000 utilizing the $ I get from each day for stamina and shop creds.

1. I only have been using this method when there is heavy, low stam gunning.
2. Everyone cant use this same strat in a cartel
3. This strategy is more effective in A games then in B games.
4. Probably only really get any benefit using this strat in a cartel like PSD/BB/Cobras

[6m$SexGod]

I just think it's a bullshit, lazy way of going about gunning! Why cant jump be restricted only when having a certain stamina percent?

I fucking hate logging in and seeing these wankers taking my hard earnt junks!

[seasider]

I've opposed this strat since it first came over from fb. I've always argued that it changes the balance of the game and that effectively it an AZ strat which is already banned

As for the comment that they can't outlaw a legitimate strat, that's not correct. Trafficking was a legitimate strat and the game was altered to stop in the middle of the round while players where actually using it and as a consequence their round was ruined. Not only was it a legitimate strat it was the basic playing instruction given out by this site. So there is certainly a precedent for changing game variables to stop a certain strat dominating the game.

[Carping]

INTELLIGENCE OF GUNNERS....

1, PSD,BB AND COBRAS.....all gun the worth players for their junks the proper way without the need to suicide. true quality gun carts.

2,FACEBOOK GUNNERS...gun the easy way just for the fun of taking easy junks. no skill involved any asshole can do it.

3, SUICIDE GUNNERS... fucking wankers that gun just to piss people off cause they aint got the quality to break people the right way. could add 1-2 names to this list but i wont

[Dont Front]

INTELLIGENCE OF GUNNERS....

1, PSD,BB AND COBRAS.....all gun the worth players for their junks the proper way without the need to suicide. true quality gun carts.

2,FACEBOOK GUNNERS...gun the easy way just for the fun of taking easy junks. no skill involved any asshole can do it.

3, SUICIDE GUNNERS... fucking wankers that gun just to piss people off cause they aint got the quality to break people the right way. could add 1-2 names to this list but i wont

i like ruining peoples rounds....if i am having a shitty gun round i will suicide and thug fuck people.

[Carping]

i like ruining peoples rounds....if i am having a shitty gun round i will suicide and thug fuck people.

so dont fucking moan then when the low stammers are hitting you for your junks, you are no better than they are

[Diezel]

wat should we do about this Low Stam Gunning......


Learn how to do it fucking right you muppet,all you noobs with no tactics give it a bad name yes YOU, officer ten penny etc ....:bleh:


Or use your fucking heads and buy vests and stop your fucking moaning speacaily when you doing it in other rooms you twat

[Dont Front]

so dont fucking moan then when the low stammers are hitting you for your junks, you are no better than they are




im not moaning...i just made a poll about it plus its not like i do it every room every round.......arent thugs for checking for junks or thugging machines?????


low stamming is not even like suiciding or thug fucking peolpe..

[Carping]

im not moaning...i just made a poll about it plus its not like i do it every room every round.......arent thugs for checking for junks or thugging machines?????


low stamming is not even like suiciding or thug fucking peolpe..

so your telling me you dont suicide???? what about wz "A" 2 rounds??? i refused to pay you codes to take down the opposition so you suicided me 3x a day for the last 3 days. incase your wondering my old handle is "CARPING"

[Dont Front]

so your telling me you dont suicide???? what about wz "A" 2 rounds??? i refused to pay you codes to take down the opposition so you suicided me 3x a day for the last 3 days. incase your wondering my old handle is "CARPING"



lol i never have asked anyone for codes to take anyone down....so friends were in top 5 and asked me to take care of some competition....you were in top 5......i already told you it wasnt cuz i had something against you.

[Brick]

You're missing option 3: Cry and throw a hissy fit.

[clydebone]

option #4

quit playing dopewars after being low stammed everyday since you started

[Diezel]

INTELLIGENCE OF GUNNERS....

1, PSD,BB AND COBRAS.....all gun the worth players for their junks the proper way without the need to suicide. true quality gun carts.

Whats the proper way Carp ,thats like saying you should not have all them overalls if there was no donating ,some say no skill in that :whistle:

2,FACEBOOK GUNNERS...gun the easy way just for the fun of taking easy junks. no skill involved any asshole can do it.

Facebook gunners the smart players more junkeis =more worth :closed:

from main page =And in the end, work your way to becoming the cities most powerful, and richest dealer <----get my drift


3, SUICIDE GUNNERS... fucking wankers that gun just to piss people off cause they aint got the quality to break people the right way. could add 1-2 names to this list but i wont

Add me to the list Carp i was suiciding reds for Dark Legions last round and will comtinue to suicide reds till they quit :whip:

And ive had it done to me also :closed:

[Essayeffsee]

i dont do a lot of gunnin,and when i do/have its only the "traditional"way...what i wanna know is,when ive had a gunner jump me 5 times,they have put me in hospital,but then ive had like 5 gunners jump me 3 times each for example...and im not in hosp....but my worth has been reduced massively..(15 jumps!).there should be a limit on how many times you are jumped by ANYONE before you are suckin soup through a straw...

[Buzzin]

INTELLIGENCE OF GUNNERS....

1, PSD,BB AND COBRAS.....all gun the worth players for their junks the proper way without the need to suicide. true quality gun carts.

2,FACEBOOK GUNNERS...gun the easy way just for the fun of taking easy junks. no skill involved any asshole can do it.

3, SUICIDE GUNNERS... fucking wankers that gun just to piss people off cause they aint got the quality to break people the right way. could add 1-2 names to this list but i wont


Where do reds gunners fit into this ? :unf:

[Diezel]

Where do reds gunners fit into this ? :unf:


Reds gunners dont make me laugh,all talk no action,dont get me started ae,,,,Ruff :haha:

[ZERAT]

Alan

if there was no donaions then carp would still have won the overalls

you telling me he is the ONLY donater in the top10 when he won them?

[Diezel]

Alan

if there was no donaions then carp would still have won the overalls

you telling me he is the ONLY donater in the top10 when he won them?



piss of liam it was not a dig at carp it was used in context ,some old players think thats the only way to overall, when its LEGIT its there to be abused just like low stamming just most suck at it like the guy making the thread ,i my self are sick of it after seeing the clowns in war a and pro1 copying my past success on it, but they hoard money all round and jump each other for cash and junkies to even out there losses ANY low stammer who wins War A or Pro1 bar me.Brickman or Dustin should be dq them lot in war A and Pro1 jump to very last day trading each others cash and junkies till last day then worth up with minium theft or pimp creds needed to get mega scores ,whilst on the other hand i and the names mentioned would spend all cash on shakes to last the round and then when ahead of most junkie players make a run for it,it will be interesting to see the winner of Pro1 this round if its who i suspect it will be ill come here at next reset posting a 300mill=400mill end of round score because it must be LEGIT if they have not been deleted already

[Asgard]

Add me to the list Carp i was suiciding reds for Dark Legions last round and will comtinue to suicide reds till they quit :whip:

And ive had it done to me also :closed:


take a chair...because it ain't a LIL BOY like you that will make us quit the game ;)

[Zeus]

Lets talk about the topic and not if Carp donates or not, that dead horse has been getting a beating for ages now.


There are definitely ways around it, but all are unsatisfactory results. The thing with low stam gunning, it never works with cartels like PSD or BB, we are a vindictive bunch that will just ruin your game for being so greedy and throwing wrenches into our master plans. The only place where it really shines is Warzone were the strat doesnt give out bad publicity to cartel since its a solitary type game.

[andrius]

if there was just true lowstamers with 3-5kguns,than its not problem to gunner,1-2k vests and low stamer will never comeback.

yeah i low staming in b2,but i jump most just other lowstamers,i let them do all dirty work and i just colect their junkies:whistle:

[$treet pharmaci$t]

Reds gunners dont make me laugh,all talk no action,dont get me started ae,,,,Ruff :haha:

I'm a red and a gunner granted my best rounds are not in a all red gunning cart though :hidey:

[Kloaked Spirit]

My thoughts on this are as follows:

- It is a legitimate gunning strategy. Just because you don't find it honorable doesn't make it cheating.

- Yes, we could make changes mid-round if it's been established that the following strategies are able to completely break the game and make it the only way to have a chance of winning. Examples of this were trafficking because it was too overpowered at the time, and doing all-thug based strategies given the indestructible nature of thugs.

- With some of the ideas that have been presented before to fix suiciding/vesting, that could incorporate itself (or at least lend itself) to effective ways of putting up defense for the strategy. Now it just comes down to when/if we can get those ideas up and running.

[HOODLUM]

I am against low stam gunning however it is what it is
just make the best of it,


my gun cartel will have no low stammers i feel there is no skill in it and anyone doing so will get booted the fuck out :P

have a nice day
:haha:

[Dont Front]

so to prevent low stamming....





Buy 10,000 vests and make sure that you are always stocked up because you lose some when you jump people and wen you get jumped......a low stammer will never have more than 10,000 guns and if he does then just buy more vests....yes i know its weak but it would work out.



:whip:

[cunexttuesday]

so to prevent low stamming....





Buy 10,000 vests and make sure that you are always stocked up because you lose some when you jump people and wen you get jumped......a low stammer will never have more than 10,000 guns and if he does then just buy more vests....yes i know its weak but it would work out.



:whip:

That's a lot of vests for a gunner.

Would weaken them in their jumps. But I guess if it helps them from losing junkies to low stammers it is a good solution.

[Dont Front]

That's a lot of vests for a gunner.

Would weaken them in their jumps. But I guess if it helps them from losing junkies to low stammers it is a good solution.





Honestly i dont think it really weakens anything....because i have still been winning jumps.

[andrius]

My thoughts on this are as follows:

- It is a legitimate gunning strategy. Just because you don't find it honorable doesn't make it cheating.

- Yes, we could make changes mid-round if it's been established that the following strategies are able to completely break the game and make it the only way to have a chance of winning. Examples of this were trafficking because it was too overpowered at the time, and doing all-thug based strategies given the indestructible nature of thugs.

- With some of the ideas that have been presented before to fix suiciding/vesting, that could incorporate itself (or at least lend itself) to effective ways of putting up defense for the strategy. Now it just comes down to when/if we can get those ideas up and running.

So how about warzone b,everyone know thats the only way to win,winner finishing 2x score from any othere strat,ill say it is too overpowered at the time:whistle:

[$treet pharmaci$t]

Most of the low stam gunning happens the first two weeks. So Ive been experimenting with just jumping for 150-200 junkies to maintain stamina and build my gun presses till the market drops to my liking. Then I start making choice jumps for junkies until about 750-1000 utilizing the $ I get from each day for stamina and shop creds.

1. I only have been using this method when there is heavy, low stam gunning.
2. Everyone cant use this same strat in a cartel
3. This strategy is more effective in A games then in B games.
4. Probably only really get any benefit using this strat in a cartel like PSD/BB/Cobras


The days of getting 1000 to 2000 junkies on a regular basis in b games is long gone

[Kloaked Spirit]

So how about warzone b,everyone know thats the only way to win,winner finishing 2x score from any othere strat,ill say it is too overpowered at the time:whistle:

Honestly I can't recall anyone actually saying anything about it, and that's why I haven't taken the time to look at it. I'm not saying it hasn't been said, but between everything else that's been going on and that I've been working on trying to get fixed, I could easily have overlooked it.

That being said, what gun weights should I put in to balance that out without ruining normal gunning? I'm being serious here, as the panel only allows me to change variables, not actually insert new codes or limits of this nature for specific games. I'd rather at least start with a good educated point than just blindly guess, which is what I'd be doing now without having looked at the numbers.

[Dont Front]

have the panel vote to see if you guys can actually limit the number of times you can jump someone in a 24 hr period......i know you guys can do it if you have already banned and stopped other strats from happenning....

[BIGRICK]

I think all the variables are fine as they are. The following ideas have been mentioned before though -

- change jump range from 3x worth to 2x worth. Because lets face it, gunners dont jump anyone so high, thats just for suiciders and low stammers.

- Make it so the stamina of a "jumper" must be atleast 100%

- Random hospital times. Between 20hrs and 24hrs. That way Jumps are less "Robotic" ie.


**9.24pm - out of hospital 9.24pm jump x5, back in hospital.... See ya same time tomorrow chump.

:flowers:

[F8SentMe]

What crying, whining, and stomping your feet won't work? Dammit now i need to look for a new technique :waiting:

[herojuana]

The days of getting 1000 to 2000 junkies on a regular basis in b games is long gone

last round in b1 i ended with 1400 odd junkies and lost close to 2000 :O

[Diogee]

I think all the variables are fine as they are. The following ideas have been mentioned before though -

- change jump range from 3x worth to 2x worth. Because lets face it, gunners dont jump anyone so high, thats just for suiciders and low stammers.

- Make it so the stamina of a "jumper" must be atleast 100%

- Random hospital times. Between 20hrs and 24hrs. That way Jumps are less "Robotic" ie.


**9.24pm - out of hospital 9.24pm jump x5, back in hospital.... See ya same time tomorrow chump.

:flowers:



2x range... Agree would help against suiciders


Love the stanima Idea!!!

Random Hospital... This idea was brought up long ago for the AZ low stam problem before as 20-28 (keeps 24 average)

problem is it was actually voted down :S however I heard Tim was gonna add it anyways and never did :(

also the random hospital was gonna be for each of the 5 jumps. that way if the first is open at 20 hours u can get one jump than if the 2nd is at 28 hours that is 8 hours which by than the 3rd 4th and 5th are also open.... but as this keeps happening all round it will spread out all of them and there wont be anyway to track hospital time so :D only the skilled gunners should profit :D:D

[THE HEAVY HITTA]

i think that the low stam is a little crazy cuz i know the times are getting shared. i agree with some that its a nice twisted strat for the game, but its just like the az strat in my eyes but its in the game now, how can u stop it

the 2x thing is a good idea, great one rick
the random times were supposed to be started like 5 mos ago, still waiting, and it was going from 20-28 hours a nice long spread of time

easy changes i believe that could be done in my eyes.. and i know ks and jacx are doing what they can with the admin stuff.. good job to u all for ur efforts :D

anytime frame on the medal tables, they been down for a long time now, i dont even know what it looks like anymore haha

[THE HEAVY HITTA]

Alan

if there was no donaions then carp would still have won the overalls

you telling me he is the ONLY donater in the top10 when he won them?


donates are part of the game

u got to just deal with it, but honestly ive ?'d carp on it, not that its any of my business, and i trust him 100% .. i think he was given codes from a medal win one time and used it to get his first overall which is what u should do, if ur a cart leader u save codes to give to the highest player, u give out 20 and get 60 back, no brainer to me, and he won it, kept some codes for the next time, now he got a phat bank roll of codes haha and 7 overalls

i think the line we should use here is:
dont hate the player hate the game bud

break out the cc once, it could go along way haha

[Brick]

I always hate these threads bc logic escapes the lot of you. It's a deadly strat, if it wasn't you wouldn't be bitching. I take great pride in the fact that you all get so angry about it. It was never intended to be a rendition of the AZ strat and people that jump each other is a bunch of crap. I've actually only legitimately low stammed at OT once. The freedom fighters can attest to that as they were my favorite targets. And I was MWJ for the majority of the time.

Now what does this mean?
1.) Junkie cartels should love this as they get to run wild without worrying about show up on the records.
2.) Worthers also like this as it puts the "traditional gunner" in a disadvantage in that they don't get to keep all those junkies they stole from you.
3.) To my traditional gunners: I'm sorry for taking your junkies? Not really if you determine that your best means to winning are to have 0 vests, then it's you're own fault. Try worthing.
4.) Credit sellers love us as we have a ton of liquid cash that buys their credits. Additionally, we buy more credits faster so they have a higher turnover rate.

So you see that low stamming done right benefits all other strategies but gunning. So for that I'm not too terribly sorry. The no-talent assclowns that have perverted the strategy by jumping anything with a gun, well that's part of them see the great successes of those that do well.

What low stamming does not do is win A games. Granted you can incorporate it into your overall plan, you'll have 2,000 junkies and a worth of $40million on day 30 without a market as a means to more cash. Whatever your opinion might be, at least acknowledge that it's really fricking clever. I wish some of you could've seen it played right with an entire cartel timing the market crashes, and transitions. It was rather fun to do.

As for limiting the # of jumps, honestly. This is how the game develops. A new strategy is created and 99 times out of 100 it fails. When one does work well, the goal should be the next best thing you silly bastards. Rather than bitch about it, beat it. For all you team oriented vets, you should be smart enough to figure it out. If not I'll show you one of my other strats that are even better than worth gunning AND they're all team-based. So again, you bitch and moan and yet the only solutions I hear are change the rules bc you're been outsmarted by a FB noob and his mouthy friend. Whatever you think about Alan, he's taken a good thing and ran with it. Now show your skill and beat him, and if you're lucky me. Love Brick

[Edsel Dope]

Learn how to do it fucking right you muppet,all you noobs with no tactics give it a bad name yes YOU, officer ten penny etc ....:bleh:


Or use your fucking heads and buy vests and stop your fucking moaning speacaily when you doing it in other rooms you twat

How in the hell can a Noob call other people a Noob how long have u actually been around for 2-3 years...No i dont think so so ur still a fucking noob...U werent even around when V1 was here so shut the fuck up u dont deserve too speak in the Forum...Hell this is coming from a guy who goal in life is too fuck with people Premie Accounts what a fucking Noob..You know whats sad
is i think i liked BAMBI better than you and thats isnt a good thing...

[herojuana]

Brick, as much as i hate to do it, i agree (not because of you, but cos i dont like low stamming).

i dont think it should be gotten rid of, and there are only 2 or 3 people that can do it very well, and its a lot better than getting vested. instead of lobbying against it im gona try and develop a way to beat it gunning... and fail that i will start worthing again :P

[Diezel]

How in the hell can a Noob call other people a Noob how long have u actually been around for 2-3 years...No i dont think so so ur still a fucking noob...U werent even around when V1 was here so shut the fuck up u dont deserve too speak in the Forum...Hell this is coming from a guy who goal in life is too fuck with people Premie Accounts what a fucking Noob..You know whats sad
is i think i liked BAMBI better than you and thats isnt a good thing...



Stfu you moron,never onced did i spend a token Or cash in your accounts or even boot your cartel when you were cab in cartels it was used for intel PLAIN AND FUCKING SIMPLE and before you start making statements like that maybe you should find out who started passing it about and stop directing your hate towards me you muppet ,and as for noob i class all shitty players noobs ie MemnoryMan =Veteran Noob


Now Edsel go dry your eyes and run along now :foryou:


ps well fucking said Brick

[Brick]

Brick, as much as i hate to do it, i agree (not because of you, but cos i dont like low stamming).

i dont think it should be gotten rid of, and there are only 2 or 3 people that can do it very well, and its a lot better than getting vested. instead of lobbying against it im gona try and develop a way to beat it gunning... and fail that i will start worthing again :P

I'd be more than willing to give you some of my unreleased strat ideas to beat low stamming.

[Diezel]

I'd be more than willing to give you some of my unreleased strat ideas to beat low stamming.


Nothing beats buying vests :whistle:

[Cracker4Life]

[/B]


Nothing beats buying vests :whistle:



but if you buy vests while gunning you just lose those vests when making jumps. correct?

[Diezel]

but if you buy vests while gunning you just lose those vests when making jumps. correct?


Smart players always win ,just ask the fb noobs in b2 who were trying to low stam me, what happens is before you log off ,,infact im not posting nothing to deter that strat :bleh:

[Cracker4Life]

Smart players always win ,just ask the fb noobs in b2 who were trying to low stam me, what happens is before you log off ,,infact im not posting nothing to deter that strat :bleh:


what when you log off you buy vestss and when low stammers jump you they lose cause they have very little guns...? i dont know ive never low stammed but when are we going head to head ? lol

[Brick]

You'll lose some if done right. It's not that serious of a loss if the low stammer is actually good at what he does and is consistent in his jump times. But it requires discipline in grouping your own jumps. If you can get all your jumps in in a matter of an hour or 2, then vest and wait for the low stammer the other 22 hours you'll have minimal losses and maximum success.

[Cracker4Life]

You'll lose some if done right. It's not that serious of a loss if the low stammer is actually good at what he does and is consistent in his jump times. But it requires discipline in grouping your own jumps. If you can get all your jumps in in a matter of an hour or 2, then vest and wait for the low stammer the other 22 hours you'll have minimal losses and maximum success.



Thank you for taking your time and explaining that to me. i have never even attempted to detur a low stammer :foryou:

[Kloaked Spirit]

I will admit that this thread has shown that few people have learned anything from the gunning exercise that I brought up. Just how many guns would you need to beat a measly 1000 vests again?

[Diezel]

Thank you for taking your time and explaining that to me. i have never even attempted to detur a low stammer :foryou:


It would be foolish 2 if you in a cart like psd when you getting vested on mass


and here Ant put this in your pipe and smoke it,,,,


View Poll Results: Wat should we do about Low Stam Gunning???
Limit the # of Jumps in a 24 Hr Period. 11 47.83%%
Do nothing. 12 52.17%


says it all :yay:



edit:1400 ks at 100 ,2800 if mark is at 200%

[Cracker4Life]

View Poll Results: Wat should we do about Low Stam Gunning???
Limit the # of Jumps in a 24 Hr Period. 12 50.00%
Do nothing. 12 50.00



:whistle:


:haha:

[Diezel]

View Poll Results: Wat should we do about Low Stam Gunning???
Limit the # of Jumps in a 24 Hr Period. 12 50.00%
Do nothing. 12 50.00



:whistle:


:haha:



You realy are a fucking retard,ill never waste my time replying to you again,if your gonna vote, vote for a reason not to switch a poll,,muppet

[Cracker4Life]

You realy are a fucking retard,ill never waste my time replying to you again,if your gonna vote, vote for a reason not to switch a poll,,muppet

it twas a joke get a sense of humor its not like an admin is going to do shit because of a thread started by anthony... no offense. but low stam is a ligit strat so i hope they do nothing about it..

[Brick]

Welcome to the revolution! lol. It's a damn shame KS, bc there was lots of good stuff to take from that contest. It got me thinking seriously about cartel strength and improved my target selections.

[Cracker4Life]

Welcome to the revolution! lol. It's a damn shame KS, bc there was lots of good stuff to take from that contest. It got me thinking seriously about cartel strength and improved my target selections.

i dont think they could of done anything. it was a completely legit strat. how are you going to regulate one strat and not the others??



Edit* i kind of wrote that without really thinking about it. they do regulate other strats. by making a thugger only thug 15 times in a 24 hour period and if a gunner loses 5 jumps he cant jump for 24 hours, ect...

[Dont Front]

It would be foolish 2 if you in a cart like psd when you getting vested on mass


and here Ant put this in your pipe and smoke it,,,,


View Poll Results: Wat should we do about Low Stam Gunning???
Limit the # of Jumps in a 24 Hr Period. 11 47.83%%
Do nothing. 12 52.17%


says it all :yay:



edit:1400 ks at 100 ,2800 if mark is at 200%













i dont care lol someone asked me to make a thread so i made one.........its just funny that my first thread caused all these problems and fighting......hahahahahahahaha...........its cool thouhg guys atleast its a place were we can discuss this stuff.......no one should be getting mad but just explaining...:whip:

[Brick]

i dont think they could of done anything. it was a completely legit strat. how are you going to regulate one strat and not the others??

well they already have in some respects. For example, you used to lose a % of your junkies based on the number of available jumps you had on you. Now, you lose 5%, 4%, 3%, 2%, 1% no matter what now. At low stamming's peak with proper planning you could lose only 1%, 1%, 1%, 1%, 1% or 5% total each day. The score you see in my sig was during those rules. FB dw, tried to combat it by giving less payouts when u had lower stamina. It was effective, sorta, but it also was prolly the biggest and easiest way to cheat. I.E. people made multies, gave THEM low stam, then jumped their main accounts. Which meant they still lost less stuff AND no one else got their junkies.

If you look at when I played here, anyone lucky or dedicated enough to jump me, got my junkies. And the Freedom Fighters, who were sooo against my strat, sure didn't mind jumping me. And I didn't mind them jumping me either, someone has to get them, why not the people I've taken them from. Now the guy that got the 5% ended up taking from me more than I did from him, but overall I still gained much more than I lost. The 15% loss is an accepted and planned loss. Meaning that each day a low stammer has to earn more than 15% more than their total junkies in order for it to be a viable strategy. So you don't see us crying when we lose. The time in the hospital allows you to mini-hoard, and make more proficient increases in worth or credit buying. Just some thoughts.

[Cracker4Life]

well they already have in some respects. For example, you used to lose a % of your junkies based on the number of available jumps you had on you. Now, you lose 5%, 4%, 3%, 2%, 1% no matter what now. At low stamming's peak with proper planning you could lose only 1%, 1%, 1%, 1%, 1% or 5% total each day. The score you see in my sig was during those rules. FB dw, tried to combat it by giving less payouts when u had lower stamina. It was effective, sorta, but it also was prolly the biggest and easiest way to cheat. I.E. people made multies, gave THEM low stam, then jumped their main accounts. Which meant they still lost less stuff AND no one else got their junkies.

If you look at when I played here, anyone lucky or dedicated enough to jump me, got my junkies. And the Freedom Fighters, who were sooo against my strat, sure didn't mind jumping me. And I didn't mind them jumping me either, someone has to get them, why not the people I've taken them from. Now the guy that got the 5% ended up taking from me more than I did from him, but overall I still gained much more than I lost. The 15% loss is an accepted and planned loss. Meaning that each day a low stammer has to earn more than 15% more than their total junkies in order for it to be a viable strategy. So you don't see us crying when we lose. The time in the hospital allows you to mini-hoard, and make more proficient increases in worth or credit buying. Just some thoughts.


Damn thnk you for teaching me all that DW 401 right there :D

[Diezel]

well they already have in some respects. For example, you used to lose a % of your junkies based on the number of available jumps you had on you. Now, you lose 5%, 4%, 3%, 2%, 1% no matter what now. At low stamming's peak with proper planning you could lose only 1%, 1%, 1%, 1%, 1% or 5% total each day. The score you see in my sig was during those rules. FB dw, tried to combat it by giving less payouts when u had lower stamina. It was effective, sorta, but it also was prolly the biggest and easiest way to cheat. I.E. people made multies, gave THEM low stam, then jumped their main accounts. Which meant they still lost less stuff AND no one else got their junkies.

If you look at when I played here, anyone lucky or dedicated enough to jump me, got my junkies. And the Freedom Fighters, who were sooo against my strat, sure didn't mind jumping me. And I didn't mind them jumping me either, someone has to get them, why not the people I've taken them from. Now the guy that got the 5% ended up taking from me more than I did from him, but overall I still gained much more than I lost. The 15% loss is an accepted and planned loss. Meaning that each day a low stammer has to earn more than 15% more than their total junkies in order for it to be a viable strategy. So you don't see us crying when we lose. The time in the hospital allows you to mini-hoard, and make more proficient increases in worth or credit buying. Just some thoughts.


:deadhorse: Brick there all to stupid to realise ill quote this again

And in the end, work your way to becoming the cities most powerful, and richest dealer! <------ = Anyway possible ,no prizes for second

[Brick]

::cough:: prizes ::cough::

[Cracker4Life]

:deadhorse: Brick there all to stupid to realise ill quote this again

And in the end, work your way to becoming the cities most powerful, and richest dealer! <------ = Anyway possible ,no prizes for second


thats why i copied and pasted it :thumbs:

[Zeus]

Again, when has this strat really scored with a deadly gun cartel around? If Im getting vested, Id rather get low stam gunned and lose 0 guns. Its definitely overpowered in warzone.

[Brick]

your e-penis just got a little longer.

[Diezel]

Again, when has this strat really scored with a deadly gun cartel around? If Im getting vested, Id rather get low stam gunned and lose 0 guns. Its definitely overpowered in warzone.


Soon as i get 5 in a row in war b ,ill stop thats 1 more round after reset :P And ill go win or top 5 in b1 all guns ,just not got the time to do it in more than 1 room

[Zeus]

your e-penis just got a little longer.

It was a legitimate question, Im sure your e-penis is pro porn size itself.

[Brick]

lol,
I meant to say that I just gave you some rep for that.

[Zeus]

Well, give me more, I complemented on your e-cock lol

[Edsel Dope]

Stfu you moron,never onced did i spend a token Or cash in your accounts or even boot your cartel when you were cab in cartels it was used for intel PLAIN AND FUCKING SIMPLE and before you start making statements like that maybe you should find out who started passing it about and stop directing your hate towards me you muppet ,and as for noob i class all shitty players noobs ie MemnoryMan =Veteran Noob


Now Edsel go dry your eyes and run along now :foryou:


ps well fucking said Brick

Maybe you should PM who did and i will leave you alone...But whats fucked up about u is i have 2 or 3 people premie i have not once got on there shit and posted BS and check out there shit because its not mine did ur mother ever teach u not too play with something thats not fucking yours ty and have a nice day...

Low Stamina is for pussy Gunniers not ole school gunniers

[Brick]

Maybe you should PM who did and i will leave you alone...But whats fucked up about u is i have 2 or 3 people premie i have not once got on there shit and posted BS and check out there shit because its not mine did ur mother ever teach u not too play with something thats not fucking yours ty and have a nice day...

Low Stamina is for pussy Gunniers not ole school gunniers

Old school? Let me put it this way. If this were nature one of two things would happen.
1.) you'd be eaten (natural selection)
2.) you children would be born with 6 toes from all the inbreeding.

So welcome to the jungle. Eat or be eaten.

[T.c.a.]

Frankly, i dont care about it either way anymore as i stopped gunning due to vesting and it being time consuming.

Nobody cares about warzones apart from the people who think they're cool by going there and pwning, so let it be overpowered there.

I say bring back trafficking as a viable strategy! lol

[Brick]

pardon my noob question, but was trafficing related to a more liquid buy/sell price for the drugs? details please. I can't believe i've never heard of it.

[Diezel]

Maybe you should PM who did and i will leave you alone...But whats fucked up about u is i have 2 or 3 people premie i have not once got on there shit and posted BS and check out there shit because its not mine did ur mother ever teach u not too play with something thats not fucking yours ty and have a nice day...

Low Stamina is for pussy Gunniers not ole school gunniers

i posted onced when you knew i had it,And do your own investigation sherlock


Old school? Let me put it this way. If this were nature one of two things would happen.
1.) you'd be eaten (natural selection)
2.) you children would be born with 6 toes from all the inbreeding.

So welcome to the jungle. Eat or be eaten.


small minds Brick,small minds

[T.c.a.]

pardon my noob question, but was trafficing related to a more liquid buy/sell price for the drugs? details please. I can't believe i've never heard of it.

Yeah, ages ago, back in the V1 dreamtime, there was a strat that was ridiculously overpowered, it involved buying cheap drugs at one station and moving elsewhere and selling for a very high price, it was such a time consuming strategy though, it took an hour + to spend the tokens per day in one room, those who ran it had awesome success though.

Anti-duck was probably the best at running it, scoring 200 mil about 3 or 4 rounds in a row in A games with it. Bellows (currently running around as dark nebula) sat atop a room trafficking in B games and destroyed an entire cartel himself in a matter of days*.

* Just a couple of people who had great success with it, only a handful of other people had a huge amount of success with it though.

[Brick]

Alright,
that explains a lot of the things in the game. FB had something like that when it was first launched. Buy at 26-30 and sell at 28-32. It was a goldmine, but yea it took forever.

And the magical icecream suit let you buy and sell twice at the same station. Lol, now it's useless.

[T.c.a.]

Alright,
that explains a lot of the things in the game. FB had something like that when it was first launched. Buy at 26-30 and sell at 28-32. It was a goldmine, but yea it took forever.

And the magical icecream suit let you buy and sell twice at the same station. Lol, now it's useless.

Our traffickers typically stopped at the redneck overralls :thumbs:

[newportbadboy]

last round in b1 i ended with 1400 odd junkies and lost close to 2000 :O

last round in b1 i ended with 3000+ junkies :whistle: but scored around 110 mil only

[Kloaked Spirit]

edit:1400 ks at 100 ,2800 if mark is at 200%

Not if you're low stamming and have 20% stamina. If you have 20% and they're at 200%, all of a sudden you need 28,000 guns. Then factor in your gunning bonus at it's maximum and you're looking at just around 9500 guns or so - give or take - to guarantee the win gunning the guy from your cartel, and that the other guy isn't in a cartel at all.

[Brick]

I can actually get my stamina below 20%. Opps.

[Kloaked Spirit]

Yeah the real stamina limit on the low end is 10%, although for some reason I think it stops at 14% in the actual game. It's been a while since I looked at it. I did 20% for easier math.

[Brick]

well whatever the limit may be. When bunching jumps was important, I'd open 5 tabs and run through them within a few seconds. This way I'd keep the times within 3 seconds each day. So I didn't end up slowly moving to 2 am jump times.
If you get the 2nd jump in before the first finishes loading, you go below 10%. My record was 3%.

[swiss miss]

as you all know, im not really a gunner so my opinion in these kind of threads shouldnt add much weight....... but i do notice that its a good idea for gunners to avoid the record "most junkies won in a jump"...... which is a sad situation to be in.

i like ricks first idea.... only being able to jump people double rather than a third more in worth than you would help prevent suiciding/low stamming to a certain extent - on that note, please (so called) gunners for god sakes take note of what KS has so explicitly spelled out for you. When i am double your worth and you jump me there is NO chance of you winning; when i message you to remind you of this fact i am not being arrogant, i am helping you. You dont HAVE to jump people on records when you are going to lose.

i thought tim DID have the random hospital times for while, from what people say its not still or never was implemented.....it might help.

not sure about the only being able to jump above 100% - like someone has said, low stamming is a valid, if not honourable, strat that we shouldnt stop just because we dont like the way it is run (and i hate as much as anyone losing my hard earned gunned junkies)

[Kloaked Spirit]

The ideas that I thought about on the low stam/vesting idea were the two that were suggested by you people a while back. One was to calculate the damage done to the jumper/jumpee depending on how close the jumper was to winning. The further away you were, the more damage the gunner gets/less damage the gunned gets. On top of that, put in an additional penalty based on your unsuccessful gunning percentage. IE if you're only winning 10% of your jumps, your jumps should cause less vest/gun damage than those that win 80-90% of the time (arbitrary numbers used here just for the concept.)

When they're put in, you can then as a gunner at least get some vests and come up with a legitimate way of fighting off low-stam gunners.

[Brick]

or,
just come up with a better strat:bleh:

[Diezel]

or,
just come up with a better strat:bleh:

Amen :thumbs:

[THE HEAVY HITTA]

or just get rid of the cheating ass strat and be done with it..

we all know that the low stams are sharing times or telling others that hey i get out at blah blah hurry up and hit me, im sure i have done it before so that i dont lose any guns.. but its getting carried away now.. u are out the hospital all of 30 secs and some are using f'in macros so that they dont even got to get on the pc, ive heard of it thats y i say its being done.

i think that the random hospital times should be put in place as they were supposed to back 5=6 mos ago

this would atleast keep time sharing out of the game as it wouldnt matter then they all are legit hits

[Sir Mankalot]

or just get rid of the cheating ass strat and be done with it..

we all know that the low stams are sharing times or telling others that hey i get out at blah blah hurry up and hit me, im sure i have done it before so that i dont lose any guns.. but its getting carried away now.. u are out the hospital all of 30 secs and some are using f'in macros so that they dont even got to get on the pc, ive heard of it thats y i say its being done.

i think that the random hospital times should be put in place as they were supposed to back 5=6 mos ago

this would atleast keep time sharing out of the game as it wouldnt matter then they all are legit hits

An admin has already told us it isn't a cheating strat, it may not be as fair as the rest, but it is still a legit strat. Until it completely over takes Dopewars, it won't be banned.

I do think that macros should be watched out for more carefully though, and be IP and e-mail banned.

[Kloaked Spirit]

or just get rid of the cheating ass strat and be done with it..

we all know that the low stams are sharing times or telling others that hey i get out at blah blah hurry up and hit me, im sure i have done it before so that i dont lose any guns.. but its getting carried away now.. u are out the hospital all of 30 secs and some are using f'in macros so that they dont even got to get on the pc, ive heard of it thats y i say its being done.

i think that the random hospital times should be put in place as they were supposed to back 5=6 mos ago

this would atleast keep time sharing out of the game as it wouldnt matter then they all are legit hits

1) It's not a cheating strategy just because you find it dishonorable.

2) It's kind of hypocritical for you to admit to sharing times and begging others to hit you and then act as if this is the root of the problem because other people are doing it as well.

3) What's really the "cheating" behind all this are the possibilities of macro use that can be done with this. If macros are being used, then yes that would be cheating. If you suspect that someone is using them, let us know.

[Zeus]

or,
just come up with a better strat:bleh:

Can you point out where beside warzone and facebook this strat has achieved accolades? So by pissing off gunners and achieving nothing but mwj records, you consider this to be your ultimate strategy?

[THE HEAVY HITTA]

1) It's not a cheating strategy just because you find it dishonorable.

2) It's kind of hypocritical for you to admit to sharing times and begging others to hit you and then act as if this is the root of the problem because other people are doing it as well.

3) What's really the "cheating" behind all this are the possibilities of macro use that can be done with this. If macros are being used, then yes that would be cheating. If you suspect that someone is using them, let us know.



im not being hypocritical, i told someone to hit me, didnt say i told them my times , at the time i didnt think bout it being a similar illegal strat

im also not being mad cuz i find it dishonorable, multis get deleted, slavers get deleted, az'ers get deleted, this strat is a slave technicue with junkies and money, and is also a az strat flipped a bit, its again just my opinion, ignore if u dont like it :D

and i heard bout these macros, if they were done for real i wouldnt know, it was in b3 this round :whistle: from what i heard

i just dont like the strat, not cuz i dont like new strats but its got the same sort of basis as a az, u keep urself hospitalized and the gunners so that u can only profit and the rest of the game cannot., just my opinion, take it for whats it worth, :S about 10 cents haha

[Seabiscuit]

why do noobs always try and change the game when the game is perfectly fine they just want to alter the rules to there advantage :waiting: silly silly noobs

[Brick]

We had a macro problem in fb for a while. If I suspected that I was being macroed, I'd buy the vests. that way the get 5 quick losses to me and they're fucked for 24 hours. Using a macro is retarded to anything other than maybe trying to find or take over the jump times of a better player. In my prime I had people using macros to try to steal jumps on me from people that put in the time to keep my times and get the benefit of hitting me. That bothered me bc soo many attempts on you at the same time cause the game to either give out 6 jumps on you rather than 5 or you lose 0 junkies (which I like) but it's unfair to legitimate players.

[andrius]

you can get 0 junks without macro,i like when ppl figthing for my times,some times i get away with 2 jumps losing 0 junks:thumbs:

[newportbadboy]

you can get 0 junks without macro,i like when ppl figthing for my times,some times i get away with 2 jumps losing 0 junks:thumbs:

haha cheap bastard

:sneak:

[bfj]

if you don't want to be low stammed, dont gun for junks until after day 16 :P

all you really have to do is just build your pressess until that point

[Diezel]

or just get rid of the cheating ass strat and be done with it..

we all know that the low stams are sharing times or telling others that hey i get out at blah blah hurry up and hit me, im sure i have done it before so that i dont lose any guns.. but its getting carried away now.. u are out the hospital all of 30 secs and some are using f'in macros so that they dont even got to get on the pc, ive heard of it thats y i say its being done.
i think that the random hospital times should be put in place as they were supposed to back 5=6 mos ago

this would atleast keep time sharing out of the game as it wouldnt matter then they all are legit hits

Yes every round me and Dustin who many dont know and runs as the name Crazy Joker have been targets for macros we just buy vests and shut them out its funny tho when you look on events and see 5 losses from them and they know not to come back again lol it got that bad in warzone that Dustin had to change the name he runs every round to combat it and i still belive im getting macroed in war b this round 2 guys hitting same minute plus the guy who found my times since day 2

why do noobs always try and change the game when the game is perfectly fine they just want to alter the rules to there advantage :waiting: silly silly noobs

Lol stfu moron that was a stupid statement i still cant belive you lot cry because better strats came out,yes i agree with the low stamming noobs with no end goal except mwj record all round are laughable but guys like me brick ,dustin and ken win rooms with it so :bleh:

you can get 0 junks without macro,i like when ppl figthing for my times,some times i get away with 2 jumps losing 0 junks:thumbs:

Its also a pain in the ass when your waiting for there time to come up nd you hit ontime and get it :angry:

[Seabiscuit]

Yes every round me and Dustin who many dont know and runs as the name Crazy Joker have been targets for macros we just buy vests and shut them out its funny tho when you look on events and see 5 losses from them and they know not to come back again lol it got that bad in warzone that Dustin had to change the name he runs every round to combat it and i still belive im getting macroed in war b this round 2 guys hitting same minute plus the guy who found my times since day 2



Lol stfu moron that was a stupid statement i still cant belive you lot cry because better strats came out,yes i agree with the low stamming noobs with no end goal except mwj record all round are laughable but guys like me brick ,dustin and ken win rooms with it so :bleh:



Its also a pain in the ass when your waiting for there time to come up nd you hit ontime and get it :angry:


i think you misunderstood me maybe you should go back and read my post again i was agreeing with you that this strat is just part of the game and should be left alone :waiting:

[the myth]

the strat is garbage and i am done gunning b games untill something is done

i have gunned in b2 for 1900 junks but only have 8-900 because of one low stammer who will never score decent
but has a ass load of junkies keeps jhumping me

i would rather be vested atleast then the hatred for you is earned

on a side note whos up for az strat admin dont seam to care:smiley:

[Diezel]

the strat is garbage and i am done gunning b games untill something is done

i have gunned in b2 for 1900 junks but only have 8-900 because of one low stammer who will never score decent
but has a ass load of junkies keeps jhumping me

i would rather be vested atleast then the hatred for you is earned

on a side note whos up for az strat admin dont seam to care:smiley:


i know thats true got a convo to prove it :whistle:

[seasider]

Its a total abuse of the hospital.

Seabiscuit - You should know the game changes quite often. Its nothing to do with noobs trying to change it, in fact if you look at players asking for something to be done you'll see many are far from being noobs

[snoope a. dawg]

I just think it's a bullshit, lazy way of going about gunning! Why cant jump be restricted only when having a certain stamina percent?

I fucking hate logging in and seeing these wankers taking my hard earnt junks!

i can tell you have never low stammed,,pure gunning or worth gunning is as easy as it gets,,low stamming takes a lot more time and effort,,find and keep targets,,,buying and selling creds daily for a profit around getting jumped 5 times a day all at different times and not losing any money,,adjusting stams for specific targets,,,try it see how "easy" it is :yawn:

[Zeus]

i can tell you have never low stammed,,pure gunning or worth gunning is as easy as it gets,,low stamming takes a lot more time and effort,,find and keep targets,,,buying and selling creds daily for a profit around getting jumped 5 times a day all at different times and not losing any money,,adjusting stams for specific targets,,,try it see how "easy" it is :yawn:


Whats so easy about pure gunning professor?

[snoope a. dawg]

:yawn: you know how to tell if i am low stamming in your room?look at the mwj record if i am low stammin my name will be there,,,1 of my names will be :haha:

[Zeus]

:yawn: you know how to tell if i am low stamming in your room?look at the mwj record if i am low stammin my name will be there,,,1 of my names will be :haha:


You didn't answer my question, just boasted about being on mwj record which didn't impress me btw.

[snoope a. dawg]

Whats so easy about pure gunning professor?

buy all gun machines,,get lots of guns,,thug targets and only jump a little bit,,mainly most money,,,i see why they call it worth gunning,,hope you have enough money to max out shop creds and continue to buy shakes,,takes 15 minutes a day max

[snoope a. dawg]

You didn't answer my question, just boasted about being on mwj record which didn't impress me btw.

i have made it to the top ten low stamming,,way back in july,,finished above 100 million,,still have not done that pure gunning,i do both,,pure gun and low stam

[Zeus]

buy all gun machines,,get lots of guns,,thug targets and only jump a little bit,,mainly most money,,,i see why they call it worth gunning,,hope you have enough money to max out shop creds and continue to buy shakes,,takes 15 minutes a day max


Just like that huh, jump mainly for money. I wonder where those mystical junkies you get from low stamming gunners come from. Is it you buy 2 machines you get 1 free junkie? I wouldnt know, Im a noob at this game. I wonder if those worth players are easy pickings for junkies?

[BIGRICK]

i have made it to the top ten low stamming,,way back in july,,finished above 100 million,,still have not done that pure gunning,i do both,,pure gun and low stam

No one is impressed.

130mil and higher is a good score for PURE gunning. If you can't do that then its because you don't know how to GUN properly.

Breaking 100mil LOW stamming is fucking childs play.


So not only are you here sticking up for the strat, but you're actually shit at it and bragging of SHIT scores.....

Move along.
:angry2:

[newportbadboy]

:yawn: you know how to tell if i am low stamming in your room?look at the mwj record if i am low stammin my name will be there,,,1 of my names will be :haha:

IF thats the case, Ihad my name on MWJ record more than once pure gunning :S

[snoope a. dawg]

INTELLIGENCE OF GUNNERS....

1, PSD,BB AND COBRAS.....all gun the worth players for their junks the proper way without the need to suicide. true quality gun carts.

2,FACEBOOK GUNNERS...gun the easy way just for the fun of taking easy junks. no skill involved any asshole can do it.

3, SUICIDE GUNNERS... fucking wankers that gun just to piss people off cause they aint got the quality to break people the right way. could add 1-2 names to this list but i wont

fb gunners have no skills,,you sir know nothing about gunning if thats what you think lmao

[snoope a. dawg]

IF thats the case, Ihad my name on MWJ record more than once pure gunning :S

sweet,,it seems to be a lot harder to get there pure gunning

[Zeus]

fb gunners have no skills,,you sir know nothing about gunning if thats what you think lmao


Lol, Carp consistently scores over 100 mil and guns with the best crews in the game. Besides that and all his game overalls, he is fucking a nooby shitty player that can play for fuck.

[Brick]

Damn I hate chiming in yet again.

Absent 15-20 people suiciding me I can win any overall in a B game. That's not bragging, as anyone they saw me actually do it would know that it took a monumental effort to first break me, then suicide me. What all these other players are doing I haven't got a clue.

[Zeus]

Damn I hate chiming in yet again.

Absent 15-20 people suiciding me I can win any overall in a B game. That's not bragging, as anyone they saw me actually do it would know that it took a monumental effort to first break me, then suicide me. What all these other players are doing I haven't got a clue.


getting tired and bored of your strat and quitting playing as your food source. thanks to low stamming, Im not playing B gunning anymore. It not you, its the other 1000 low stammer that are out there. you created DW AIDS

[Brick]

I have the antidote. If I actually have the time I may put together the crew. It's in the grey area of the game as usual, but I don't play in the black and white and I think you'd enjoy dominating low stammers.

[DarkNebula]

Brick..you and Diezel get your arses into gear and win back to back overalls 10 rounds in a row, then and only then will admins wake up and actually do something about it.. we all know how OP it is, so you might as well show them.

This all just reminds me of trafficking back in the day, admins let it go for nearly a year though before deciding it was OP, and after letting a certain cartel win their share of A games lol ;)

[ruffnready]

dave im with you m8,gunning is piss boring now,guess it`s worthing or fuckall anymore,,stop them gunning while in a bloody mess from hospital that would make the game fair again,being logical you should`nt be jumping umpteen times from your fucking hospital bed,,ruff

[Brick Shit House]

dave im with you m8,gunning is piss boring now,guess it`s worthing or fuckall anymore,,stop them gunning while in a bloody mess from hospital that would make the game fair again,being logical you should`nt be jumping umpteen times from your fucking hospital bed,,ruff



I agree if you are int he hospital you can;t jump that would sove the problem you can spend tokens but that is it would assist in this issue :)

[Pleb]

Hey I remember this argument. A year ago.

[$treet pharmaci$t]

Brick..you and Diezel get your arses into gear and win back to back overalls 10 rounds in a row, then and only then will admins wake up and actually do something about it.. we all know how OP it is, so you might as well show them.

This all just reminds me of trafficking back in the day, admins let it go for nearly a year though before deciding it was OP, and after letting a certain cartel win their share of A games lol ;)

Are you referring to the greatest cart to ever play by most people who were apart of it. I dont remember Tlb oops I meant atm :haha:

[Zeus]

Are you referring to the greatest cart to ever play by most people who were apart of it. I dont remember Tlb oops I meant atm :haha:


Thats because you were playing with Sarge and I in NWC not using that questionable strat. It was pretty funny though, as soon as they retire, the strat gets put in check and Anti Duck disappears from Oddthought.

[$treet pharmaci$t]

Thats because you were playing with Sarge and I in NWC not using that questionable strat. It was pretty funny though, as soon as they retire, the strat gets put in check and Anti Duck disappears from Oddthought.

The good old days. I miss v1



R.I.P. NWC

[Kloaked Spirit]

13 pages, and the funny keeps on coming.

You guys keep forgetting that they've already done everything but spell it out every step of the way. I think there's only been a few dozen hints about how to handle this. In fact, I made a thread and a contest over this. This is pretty typical though. However I'll predict the future. Once they do get the step by step guide, then whatever they're doing becomes the new "strategy of the hour" while some others (and I guarantee some of the people in this very thread) would cry foul and beg us to stop it.

[Zeus]

13 pages, and the funny keeps on coming.

You guys keep forgetting that they've already done everything but spell it out every step of the way. I think there's only been a few dozen hints about how to handle this. In fact, I made a thread and a contest over this. This is pretty typical though. However I'll predict the future. Once they do get the step by step guide, then whatever they're doing becomes the new "strategy of the hour" while some others (and I guarantee some of the people in this very thread) would cry foul and beg us to stop it.


You predict actual game situations and ppls attitudes?? :O damn... you good Justin, then you sit there an patronize the community. spot on (Y)

[T.c.a.]

13 pages, and the funny keeps on coming.

You guys keep forgetting that they've already done everything but spell it out every step of the way. I think there's only been a few dozen hints about how to handle this. In fact, I made a thread and a contest over this. This is pretty typical though. However I'll predict the future. Once they do get the step by step guide, then whatever they're doing becomes the new "strategy of the hour" while some others (and I guarantee some of the people in this very thread) would cry foul and beg us to stop it.

who asked you, n00b!

[Kloaked Spirit]

You predict actual game situations and ppls attitudes?? :O damn... you good Justin, then you sit there an patronize the community. spot on (Y)

You were just lucky I made that prediction for free. Usually predictions like that cost $1.99 for the first minute, $3.99 for each additional minute. So reading that would've cost you about $200 or so. You're welcome.

[Zeus]

You were just lucky I made that prediction for free. Usually predictions like that cost $1.99 for the first minute, $3.99 for each additional minute. So reading that would've cost you about $200 or so. You're welcome.

I feel so privileged to be indoctrinated with your knowledge, Im gonna go curl up like a rolly polly. night pal.

[Stone Love]

i'm in the middle on the low stam gunning. it was fun getting a little pay back on gunners. i think most gunners are just pissed that we now have a new predator in the jungle.

[Zeus]

i'm in the middle on the low stam gunning. it was fun getting a little pay back on gunners. i think most gunners are just pissed that we now have a new predator in the jungle.


and what have you accomplished?

[$treet pharmaci$t]

i'm in the middle on the low stam gunning. it was fun getting a little pay back on gunners. i think most gunners are just pissed that we now have a new predator in the jungle.


Are you for real. Most decent gunners dont want to gun because of all the low stamina gunning and vesting. Take away the gunning and you take away the fun from this game

[swiss miss]

Are you for real. Most decent gunners dont want to gun because of all the low stamina gunning and vesting. Take away the gunning and you take away the fun from this game

quoted for emphasis: without gunning, low stamming wouldnt exist but hoarding from day 1 takes all the fun, skill and randomness out of the game.

in my eyes, low stamming isnt "a little pay back on the gunners" - otherwise it would be done by the worthers that we jump..... its done by very calculated methods by players who feed off the ability of others then play such that they are always in hospital meaning the gunners cant get their own back on the low stammers.

hey, just a very random thought...... could a "jump the person back" feature work?? Most low stammers are permanently in hospital so gunners cant jump them back - the low stammers are there for a reason, usually planned with a friend (i cant prove that though) so what if they werent able to "hide" in hospital from ONLY the people that they have jumped?

Here is the situation in my very warped mind: you are jumped, in your events log you see you are jumped but there is an option to "jump that fool back"..... if you were a worther you wouldnt bother but if you are a gunner you would be able to jump back a low stammer.... low stammers couldnt hide in hospital and thus their strat wouldnt work..... well i suppose it could if the gunner decided not to jump them back??

[T.c.a.]

I know what your saying jen, however wouldnt they just further exploit that?

[swiss miss]

I know what your saying jen, however wouldnt they just further exploit that?

i guess..... the gunner wouldnt be protected for being in hospital at that point either, now would they?? who would lose most...... i mean there is no point constantly jumping the same people, i guess it would have to limited to i dont know 2 or 3 "jump backs" per person..... but then that would just be getting ridiculous and massively over complicate things

poo........ next idea........

[T.c.a.]

Sorry, not tryin to poke holes lol

[shmokethedope]

i like the idea of the jump person back feature.
if you could only jump back once each jump then surely the gunner would benefit more than the low stammer as the low stammer gets less per jump than a pure gunner.
something needs to be done as lots of vets seem to be leaving the game as of recent with even more "sitting on the fence".

[Diezel]

Very silly sugestion :closed:

[shmokethedope]

i dont think it is. cos if everytime a low stammer jumps a gunner then the gunner takes twice as much back the low stammer wouldnt do it.
hospital would have to be ignored for this for it to work. why do you think this is such a shit idea alan

[herojuana]

a junkie player would buy a couple of thousand guns and rinse out any gunner that jumped them...

[andrius]

i'm in the middle on the low stam gunning. it was fun getting a little pay back on gunners. i think most gunners are just pissed that we now have a new predator in the jungle.

:haha: one more time:haha: ok one more:haha: good gunners anyway score 100+mil and rape every junkie cartel:bleh:

low stamers stops gunners from worth gunning:sneak:

[OpticaliLLusion]

/me sighs

Is this really still a topic of discussion?

[Zeus]

I know TJ, beating a dead horse but its becoming very rampant. KS thinks he has the all conclusive defense against it, but now that you have 50X the amount of ppl doing it with all different variations, its pure mayhem on gunners. I say we just stop gunning all together and watch the worth teams break records like never seen and then see what happens to try and balance the game back out. If not then fuck it, its funny how 99% of the gunning community is just about fed up and playing less and less gun games. Thats the true way to kill a low stammer, dont play at all.

[pinzNneedlz]

jokingly i said that a few months back. now it seems to be a viable solution to getting rid of low stammers. i for one have an itchy trigger finger. it'd be hard not to play my b3 game.

[Cheeky]

I know TJ, beating a dead horse but its becoming very rampant. KS thinks he has the all conclusive defense against it, but now that you have 50X the amount of ppl doing it with all different variations, its pure mayhem on gunners. I say we just stop gunning all together and watch the worth teams break records like never seen and then see what happens to try and balance the game back out. If not then fuck it, its funny how 99% of the gunning community is just about fed up and playing less and less gun games. Thats the true way to kill a low stammer, dont play at all.

All the pure gunners turn worthers for a round....:giggle: :thumbs:

[T.c.a.]

Yeah, fuck it, rack PSD up a few dozen medals with no gunning around :haha:

[Kloaked Spirit]

I'll just edit this out. Honestly it was way too long of a post full of trivial details that everyone must already know about the gunning formula, and how proper usage of it would show how to exploit it against low-stamming gunners. I'm sure though that it would just allow for someone to nitpick and go "Well what about these types of gunners" and you'd get to the point where you're asking us to stop gunners from gunning gunners or something.

Moral of the story: If the gunners are really low-stam gunning, and it's not just "gunners gunning gunners," use the stamina to their gunning disadvantage.