2 new rooms?

[JMouse]

if DW has become about the money why dont you take the $40 cap off of a room and let everyone donate till their credit cards are maxed and leave a room for the ones that just want to play a real game of DW? kinda like the vets game

[Jacx]

Why has it become about money?

[HOODLUM]

i say we have a room where there is no gunners or thuggers and see where the real skills are at if anyone really has any these days :D

[seasider]

Mate we've had such games in the past and they have been dull as dishwater

EDIT - the poll options in this thread don't allow you to answer the question.

EDIT 2 - perhaps there should be a no-donation player ranking. I never donate these days and rarely use donation codes so it would be interesting where I could rank as a player when the scores enhanced by donations are out of the picture. Keep the cartel ranking as it is and that way you avoid disincentivising donations

[Diogee]

Umm Jacx you remember that one guy that well kinda holds a position over you but not rit... yeah I am pretty sure RORY is about the money... now I know that you are not all about the money because well you are not an ass monkey like RORY!

Anyways to the point of this thread... No max = FB problems

I say cut the max donation to $10.. people still get a small advantage but now the people who dont donate can still win

[T.c.a.]

I voted no donation limit

why?

purely because if somebody wants to piss away hundreds of dollars each month on this game purely to win, why should we stop them? :P

[ZERAT]

christ dunders bank manager crying himself to sleep after this :haha:

but very good poll.

i think 1 room with no codes would be nice and maybe that should be the only room you can win overall :P

[swiss miss]

Mate we've had such games in the past and they have been dull as dishwater

EDIT - the poll options in this thread don't allow you to answer the question.

EDIT 2 - perhaps there should be a no-donation player ranking. I never donate these days and rarely use donation codes so it would be interesting where I could rank as a player when the scores enhanced by donations are out of the picture. Keep the cartel ranking as it is and that way you avoid disincentivising donations

i suggested that a couple of years ago (and im sure i wasnt the first either), i still like it as an idea. Most people dont play under their forum handles or the same handle round after round so it wouldnt really affect anyone.

[Duffman]

i say we have a room where there is no gunners or thuggers and see where the real skills are at if anyone really has any these days :D

no gunners and no thuggers would NEVER work mate, quite simply if i knew ther wasnt a single gunner i wudnt giv a fuck bout the records, i would hoard from day one wudnt even need to buy creds or stam as a consequence! its just not practicle, u need gunners in ther just to keep the game in balance!

[Sir Mankalot]

i think there should be a room where you can donate as much as you wish. and one where you can't donate at all.

i also think they should bring back A5 and B5

[ZERAT]

no gunners and no thuggers would NEVER work mate, quite simply if i knew ther wasnt a single gunner i wudnt giv a fuck bout the records, i would hoard from day one wudnt even need to buy creds or stam as a consequence! its just not practicle, u need gunners in ther just to keep the game in balance!

hey duff

your sig is faulty

look at your PBs

i can tell that is the work of a certain GK

;)

:haha:

[fire]

Why has it become about money?

its gettin that way fast... :whistle: i cant say it wouldnt get that way if it was my game. so i cant fuss to much.. the thing is DW was a fun game.. its gettin to now if you dont give as much as you can you not worth shit... to me its a sad game DW is turnnin into..

rit had a good idea...a long time ago... i have watched alot of things change here.. cant say i like even 1/2 the stuff.. i have stayed just to hang with the friends i have made.. the cutin down the rooms is what i hated most.. now i see that was nothing.. when you look at what is goin on now...

i want my codes for the premies now...

:(

[Duffman]

lol yea liam i only just found that out myself, well thanks for asuming that my b game pb wud be higher then 127mil...it means alot to me lol and yes we can all thank gk for that one

[fire]

lol yea liam i only just found that out myself, well thanks for asuming that my b game pb wud be higher then 127mil...it means alot to me lol and yes we can all thank gk for that one

he will fix it for you.... what was ur worth?

[Sir Mankalot]

its gettin that way fast... :whistle: i cant say it wouldnt get that way if it was my game. so i cant fuss to much.. the thing is DW was a fun game.. its gettin to now if you dont give as much as you can you not worth shit... to me its a sad game DW is turnnin into..

rit had a good idea...a long time ago... i have watched alot of things change here.. cant say i like even 1/2 the stuff.. i have stayed just to hang with the friends i have made.. the cutin down the rooms is what i hated most.. now i see that was nothing.. when you look at what is goin on now...

i want my codes for the premies now...

:(

cutting down the rooms was gay. i wasn't here when they did it though...

i think rit should come back and manage it himself.

does rory even have a forum account?

[Beckjo1]

selling our emails?

the Holiday Offer (don't think I ever saw that before)


Why has it become about money?

[Beckjo1]

amen

cutting down the rooms was gay. i wasn't here when they did it though...

i think rit should come back and manage it himself.

does rory even have a forum account?

[Jacx]

I voted no donation limit

why?

purely because if somebody wants to piss away hundreds of dollars each month on this game purely to win, why should we stop them? :P

Never going to happen, there has to be a limit otherwise some rich fuck would buy the medals

christ dunders bank manager crying himself to sleep after this :haha:

but very good poll.

i think 1 room with no codes would be nice and maybe that should be the only room you can win overall :P

Donations would cut in half and we would not be able to run the game!

Mate we've had such games in the past and they have been dull as dishwater

EDIT - the poll options in this thread don't allow you to answer the question.

EDIT 2 - perhaps there should be a no-donation player ranking. I never donate these days and rarely use donation codes so it would be interesting where I could rank as a player when the scores enhanced by donations are out of the picture. Keep the cartel ranking as it is and that way you avoid disincentivising donations

The ranking idea is semi good, I like the idea, but at the same time do we shoot ourselves in the foot and find that people who do donate say "fuck that i'm not donating now" ?

i think there should be a room where you can donate as much as you wish. and one where you can't donate at all.

i also think they should bring back A5 and B5

See above, No unlimited donating ever!

its gettin that way fast... :whistle: i cant say it wouldnt get that way if it was my game. so i cant fuss to much.. the thing is DW was a fun game.. its gettin to now if you dont give as much as you can you not worth shit... to me its a sad game DW is turnnin into..

rit had a good idea...a long time ago... i have watched alot of things change here.. cant say i like even 1/2 the stuff.. i have stayed just to hang with the friends i have made.. the cutin down the rooms is what i hated most.. now i see that was nothing.. when you look at what is goin on now...

i want my codes for the premies now...

:(

You get ur codes when u send the email....or if ur still having email problems send a pm, regardless I don't have the information requested in the post in question so how the hell can I give you your codes "NOW"?

Secondly regardless of what you seem to think, its a business, it has to evolve to keep with the times, players come and go, people have less money to spend on things like this and costs always go up and never down!
cutting down the rooms was gay. i wasn't here when they did it though...

i think rit should come back and manage it himself.

does rory even have a forum account?

So you think Ritesh would do a better job?, humm email your thinking to the published email address and i will send it on to him!

selling our emails?

the Holiday Offer (don't think I ever saw that before)

Erm pardon, who is selling your emails? Its totaly down to you if you choose to partake in those offers, and when you do partake, you are dealing with them not us, thus your email address is always private in terms of dopewars. Please ask and not assume!

[Duffman]

hey jacx u guna be mad if send 'THE' email?:whistle:

[Jacx]

go ahead, im going through them as quick as i can

[shmokethedope]

a good idea maybe when the highscores are realeased put an asterix by the name of people that donated

[Sir Mankalot]

So you think Ritesh would do a better job?, humm email your thinking to the published email address and i will send it on to him!




give me the published email link. not sure what that means.

i don't think Rit would do any worse than how it's going. and i think he should be managing his own shit.

you do a great job, Jacx. i just think Rit should be involved with what he created.

[Kloaked Spirit]

Unlimited donation rooms would have to be no prize/no medal/no overall recognition rooms. Would people still continue to donate that often when they have nothing to gain from it other than an e-ego? If so, then really there's no point in not having one provided the donations exceed the expenses of running it.

[newportbadboy]

As much as Id like to see how it d be without donations but i m not against them..I dont donate myself but this is a business.there is a cost for employee,servers, and i hear goat prices went up :P

Keep it...got to do what u got to do..

I wouldnt enter the room with no limit on donations..lol no way i m gonna get near on top...
And having a no donation room might kill the business in other rooms

[Beckjo1]

you aren't sharing our email addresses when we sign up for premie accounts? it is only through offers we complete?

there has been a large increase in the spam i have been getting. not sure why else that would be happening?

kudos if it is only thru offers.

is there somewhere where we can read the points/tokens ratio for completing something?

Erm pardon, who is selling your emails? Its totaly down to you if you choose to partake in those offers, and when you do partake, you are dealing with them not us, thus your email address is always private in terms of dopewars. Please ask and not assume!

[Beckjo1]

i think this place needs two people managing it - with full authority as you have - and ritesh would be the obvious choice.

you can't say that you haven't been overburdened lately, can you?

So you think Ritesh would do a better job?, humm email your thinking to the published email address and i will send it on to him!

[HellRaiser]

Of course what makes the most sense isn't applied lol.
The overall winner is donation free.
Thus the true overall winner every round actually earned it 100% from a little luck and mostly skill.

[Jacx]

you aren't sharing our email addresses when we sign up for premie accounts? it is only through offers we complete?

there has been a large increase in the spam i have been getting. not sure why else that would be happening?

kudos if it is only thru offers.

is there somewhere where we can read the points/tokens ratio for completing something?

God no, we never share that, thats one thing we are very strict on... I hate other sites doing that thus don't do to others what you don't want done to you.

No if you sign up for a offerpal deal they ask you to submit your email address, thats the only way they can obtain it!

i think this place needs two people managing it - with full authority as you have - and ritesh would be the obvious choice.

you can't say that you haven't been overburdened lately, can you?

Ian (ridgeback) and Justin (KS) are now full dopewars admins. I however am responsible for all the games on the site plus emails and quite frankly we cannot afford anyone else right now...Justin and Ian donate their time as it is!

Of course what makes the

erm...lol




Let me explain something here. Ritesh works a full time job, I have known him to put in 60 hours a week and so on...its hard work. Remember dws was started back when he was a student, now its all work work work, instead of selling out to someone who wanted to load it up with ads and stuff we kept it running.

I actually get paid to do this, full time job. There is also a CEO above me who was given the job by Ritesh becuause he needed the site to run without him needing to check on it all the time.

The CEO is in the process of sorting more new games for the site, expanding dws, working with coders etc.

So yes there is changes going on, but we have to move with the times, costs are up and growing, there is a resession and thus less disposible income for the players, meaning somethings have to give way (like offerpal) without going ott (like spamming with ads).

Give them time to find the ballance, things like this cannot and do not happen overnight.

[ZERAT]

Jacx i just want to say you do a great job!

put up with alot of shit and moaning.

put up with me asking for codes all the time :haha:

so :thumbs: keep it going!





EDIT: fix the medals table and i'll be so happy :haha:

[Diogee]

I still say rory is an ass that is too big of a coward to show his face around here

anyways thank god we have jacx on our side though ;) I am sure without jacx this place would be dump

[DarkNebula]

The offerpal surveys installing ad-ware is a move in the right direction, good thing we have red dragon to help everyone remove this crap after they've gotten their free tokens :P

[Diezel]

if DW has become about the money why dont you take the $40 cap off of a room and let everyone donate till their credit cards are maxed and leave a room for the ones that just want to play a real game of DW? kinda like the vets game

No Donations no game ,cant get any simpler :S

give me the published email link. not sure what that means.

i don't think Rit would do any worse than how it's going. and i think he should be managing his own shit.
you do a great job, Jacx. i just think Rit should be involved with what he created.

Another retarted statment from you,so let me get this straight you demand Rit be here fulltime in a game forum etc he had the good grace to bless us with when we all know he"s got other inerest outside the ot world to keep focused on and also why the fuck would he employ Jacx and other members if he could be here fulltime himself :whistle:


Unlimited donation rooms would have to be no prize/no medal/no overall recognition rooms. Would people still continue to donate that often when they have nothing to gain from it other than an e-ego? If so, then really there's no point in not having one provided the donations exceed the expenses of running it.


Hit the nail on the head ,me myself think all that dont put there hands in there pockets even if its only $10 dollars a month or whatever should not even be alowed a fucking opinion in this thread ,how do they think the games they love to play run and they forum they spend so much time on for FREE run ,no donations no game plain and fucking simple

morale of the story if you dont donate fuckoff outta this thread because were the ones paying for your enjoyment,and you should have no say in the matter :closed:

ps i voted to keep it the way it is :closed:

[Jacx]

The offerpal surveys installing ad-ware is a move in the right direction, good thing we have red dragon to help everyone remove this crap after they've gotten their free tokens :P

if there is any adware, let us know, not having that!

[DarkNebula]

if there is any adware, let us know, not having that!

I will have to get my friend to make a forum account and let you know, as it was his computer that it happened to. Personally i won't go near the offerpal shit.

[Kloaked Spirit]

Ian (ridgeback) and Justin (KS) are now full dopewars admins. I however am responsible for all the games on the site plus emails and quite frankly we cannot afford anyone else right now...Ridge and Ian donate their time as it is!

And as you can see, Ridge and Ian are actually two separate people. Ridge is the least senile of the two. I'd recommend sending all DW questions to him.

[Diogee]

Ian (ridgeback) and Justin (KS) are now full dopewars admins. I however am responsible for all the games on the site plus emails and quite frankly we cannot afford anyone else right now...Ridge and Ian donate their time as it is!
And as you can see, Ridge and Ian are actually two separate people. Ridge is the least senile of the two. I'd recommend sending all DW questions to him.


LMAO


so does that mean you get paid?

[Kloaked Spirit]

Unfortunately, I only get paid per banning. Now if you excuse me, I have to go raise some cash in time for valentine's day.

[Sir Mankalot]

Another retarted statment from you,so let me get this straight you demand Rit be here fulltime in a game forum etc he had the good grace to bless us with when we all know he"s got other inerest outside the ot world to keep focused on and also why the fuck would he employ Jacx and other members if he could be here fulltime himself :whistle:




if i want info i'll ask someone else, thanks.

[DatKngSht]

I'd go with all this I'd like to see a room with no donations, make it interesting...

[Stars]

if DW has become about the money why dont you take the $40 cap off of a room and let everyone donate till their credit cards are maxed and leave a room for the ones that just want to play a real game of DW? kinda like the vets game

Agreed completely.


No Donations no game ,cant get any simpler

Oh really? Dopewars was running for years without them.

[Sir Mankalot]

I think I have devised a solution that would solve the non donators from bitching too much.

Just make what you get from donating, less.

Decrease the amount of money and tokens you get from donating, that way it makes the game slightly more fair, and it allows for the donators to still donate.

Just because there will be less donating, doesn't mean it would be bad. There will always be people donating.

What you could also do, is decrease the amount you get from donating, but up the amount you can donate. That way you still get the money.

Someone come knock this idea.:waiting:

[HellRaiser]

[COLOR=Red]erm...lol

Let me explain something here. Ritesh works a full time job, I have known him to put in 60 hours a week and so on...its hard work. Remember dws was started back when he was a student, now its all work work work, instead of selling out to someone who wanted to load it up with ads and stuff we kept it running.

I actually get paid to do this, full time job. There is also a CEO above me who was given the job by Ritesh becuause he needed the site to run without him needing to check on it all the time.

The CEO is in the process of sorting more new games for the site, expanding dws, working with coders etc.

So yes there is changes going on, but we have to move with the times, costs are up and growing, there is a resession and thus less disposible income for the players, meaning somethings have to give way (like offerpal) without going ott (like spamming with ads).

Give them time to find the ballance, things like this cannot and do not happen overnight.

Jesus Christ Jacx, what's the with the DW history channel here. :haha:
I agree with all you said though and understand the time put in and expansion plans etc, BUT...
What the hell does any of that got to do with my one statement as...
Overall winner being recognized donation free as your response to me? :yay:

[Kloaked Spirit]

Jesus Christ Jacx, what's the with the DW history channel here. :haha:
I agree with all you said though and understand the time put in and expansion plans etc, BUT...
What the hell does any of that got to do with my one statement as...
Overall winner being recognized donation free as your response to me? :yay:

I'll address that very quickly, seeing as Jacx had already addressed it the first time someone mentioned it in this thread.

Simply put, you're asking us to put a big huge asterisk by the very people that help keep this game running. That way others can pretend to be "honorable" and act as if someone that donate is less skillful in their win. We should be allowing those that are the revenue stream to tolerate that sort of abuse because... ?

[fire]

I'll address that very quickly, seeing as Jacx had already addressed it the first time someone mentioned it in this thread.

Simply put, you're asking us to put a big huge asterisk by the very people that help keep this game running. That way others can pretend to be "honorable" and act as if someone that donate is less skillful in their win. We should be allowing those that are the revenue stream to tolerate that sort of abuse because... ?

we are GODs :snob:






lol

[HellRaiser]

I'll address that very quickly, seeing as Jacx had already addressed it the first time someone mentioned it in this thread.

Simply put, you're asking us to put a big huge asterisk by the very people that help keep this game running. That way others can pretend to be "honorable" and act as if someone that donate is less skillful in their win. We should be allowing those that are the revenue stream to tolerate that sort of abuse because... ?

Oh come on KS, I am not even talking about what others are saying about the asterix beside those who donate.
There is no need to place an asterix beside anybody's name, I simply am saying an overall winner should be donation free.
What's the point of playing or competing in a game if you can buy an overall, I mean seriously.
If you honestly believe someone who donates to win is EQUAL muchless more skillfull is whacked lol.
Any Vet in this game who donates the limit and the difference in victory will be the cartel bennies.

I nor anyone isn't claiming, people shouldn't be allowed to donate, of course you need donations to keep the game and accessories free.
Hell I donated quite a few times in the past myself, donation isn't the TRUE issue here.
If people want to donate they should, but it should be only valued as ego not benefit.
People will still donate for that ego, but at least the overall winner EARNED it 100%.
It makes everyone play that much harder to get it and relish in the victory knowing it was on a fair playing ground.

If you or any other administaror can argue this with any logical resounance, by all means let's hear it lol. :whistle:

[Diezel]

No donations last week ,problem sloved :whistle:


but i still dont know what you all complaining for WE keep this site running, ffs i donate in gun games for FUN its my enjoyment when home :snob:

[HellRaiser]

No donations last week ,problem sloved :whistle:

No, you just used codes, same advantage lol. ;)

but i still dont know what you all complaining for WE keep this site running, ffs i donate in gun games for FUN its my enjoyment when home :snob:

No one is complaining, just making a clear obvious statement in regards to soley
an overall since it is benefited value not talking about donating for fun rounds. :bleh:

[Diezel]

No, you just used codes, same advantage lol. ;)



No one is complaining, just making a clear obvious statement in regards to soley
an overall since it is benefited value not talking about donating for fun rounds. :bleh:


Ok you win ,i dont like arguing with smart people ,wheres Duff when you need him :P

[HellRaiser]

Duff is too busy trying to catch up to me in B rounds. ;)

[Diezel]

Duff is too busy trying to catch up to me in B rounds. ;)


You could start a week late and he would never catch you,the guy is retarded :haha:

[tim|away]

Oh come on KS, I am not even talking about what others are saying about the asterix beside those who donate.
There is no need to place an asterix beside anybody's name, I simply am saying an overall winner should be donation free.
What's the point of playing or competing in a game if you can buy an overall, I mean seriously.
If you honestly believe someone who donates to win is EQUAL muchless more skillfull is whacked lol.
Any Vet in this game who donates the limit and the difference in victory will be the cartel bennies.

I nor anyone isn't claiming, people shouldn't be allowed to donate, of course you need donations to keep the game and accessories free.
Hell I donated quite a few times in the past myself, donation isn't the TRUE issue here.
If people want to donate they should, but it should be only valued as ego not benefit.
People will still donate for that ego, but at least the overall winner EARNED it 100%.
It makes everyone play that much harder to get it and relish in the victory knowing it was on a fair playing ground.

If you or any other administaror can argue this with any logical resounance, by all means let's hear it lol. :whistle:

Despite the fact - or maybe just because I am - no longer an admin, I will give you my thoughts on that.

DopeWars is without a doubt a competitive game wherefore everyone's ultimate objective is to win. Your suggestion that the "overall winner should be donation free" essentially means that donators would intentionally disqualify themselves from winning which arises the question why anyone would donate in the first place. It's not hard to see the problem here, is it?

Nonetheless, you make a very valid point by suggesting that the current donation system doesn't accurately reflect skill. In other words, rewarding tokens provides an advantage that might not be compensated with skill which potentially leads to an imbalance of the game. That being said, I completely agree that it destroys the concept of an even playing field.

The admin's goal would be to provide a solution that doesn't imbalance the game and is still attractive to people that are willing to donate. For instance, oddthought could charge people for rather advanced statistics or tons of extra data that are relevant for various strategies. This would lead to the situation where players would have to choose between dedicating a lot of time to collect the data themselves or to donate a bit of money.

There are two big challenges to overcome with this suggestion:
1. Finding a concept that is extremely attractive yet not affect the balance of the game.
2. Writing a substantive business plan for the CEO of Oddthought which would estimate the revenue increase in the long-term. :whistle:


As far as the poll is concerned, I voted for all options simply because I could.

[T.c.a.]

Dopewars is a game based on people being underhanded all the time, among the right crowds, the more of a cunt you are (within the rules, of course ;)) the more your hailed as a hero, surely wouldnt winning overrall through way of donating just be another underhanded way somebody has come out on top?

Hellraiser you were always about being realistic, well realistically, shady people do try to buy their way to the top in real life aswell im sure lol.

[Cushion]

there was no "Rory hasn't got a fucking igloo" option, so i didnt vote :(

[Diogee]

Despite the fact - or maybe just because I am - no longer an admin, I will give you my thoughts on that.

DopeWars is without a doubt a competitive game wherefore everyone's ultimate objective is to win. Your suggestion that the "overall winner should be donation free" essentially means that donators would intentionally disqualify themselves from winning which arises the question why anyone would donate in the first place. It's not hard to see the problem here, is it?

Nonetheless, you make a very valid point by suggesting that the current donation system doesn't accurately reflect skill. In other words, rewarding tokens provides an advantage that might not be compensated with skill which potentially leads to an imbalance of the game. That being said, I completely agree that it destroys the concept of an even playing field.

The admin's goal would be to provide a solution that doesn't imbalance the game and is still attractive to people that are willing to donate. For instance, oddthought could charge people for rather advanced statistics or tons of extra data that are relevant for various strategies. This would lead to the situation where players would have to choose between dedicating a lot of time to collect the data themselves or to donate a bit of money.

There are two big challenges to overcome with this suggestion:
1. Finding a concept that is extremely attractive yet not affect the balance of the game.
2. Writing a substantive business plan for the CEO of Oddthought which would estimate the revenue increase in the long-term. :whistle:


As far as the poll is concerned, I voted for all options simply because I could.


QFT 100%

The only thing I could think of that would work would be gunning assistance... lets face it is the only major factor that people cant predict in game..

Now I recently found out about some of the formula for gunning and yeah I could make a decent tool in which I could more easily predict a successful jump... However many people cant...



One thing I would like is a donation opens up more thug tasks

*Calculate Jump (obviously only a rough statement of an outcome; you would be no match, it would be a close call, You easily have *** out matched.)

*Burn Books (well simple but mean you would destroy some of *** books (would need to be heavily limited like maybe only 15 books could be burnt a day)

*Count money (or steal :P) (pretty much how it sounds)

I am sure others could think of better thug tasks

Another thing is maybe donators could hide from records... I know I would donate to stay off records

Personally I like some of those options for donating more than $40,000,000 and 200 tokens that get used at last minute.


Most of all I think a even better premium service should be coded that has a monthly charge which would include many useful tools, Private rooms, and lap dances :D

[Diezel]

QFT 100%

The only thing I could think of that would work would be gunning assistance... lets face it is the only major factor that people cant predict in game..

Now I recently found out about some of the formula for gunning and yeah I could make a decent tool in which I could more easily predict a successful jump... However many people cant...



One thing I would like is a donation opens up more thug tasks

*Calculate Jump (obviously only a rough statement of an outcome; you would be no match, it would be a close call, You easily have *** out matched.)

*Burn Books (well simple but mean you would destroy some of *** books (would need to be heavily limited like maybe only 15 books could be burnt a day)

*Count money (or steal :P) (pretty much how it sounds)

I am sure others could think of better thug tasks

Another thing is maybe donators could hide from records... I know I would donate to stay off records

Personally I like some of those options for donating more than $40,000,000 and 200 tokens that get used at last minute.


Most of all I think a even better premium service should be coded that has a monthly charge which would include many useful tools, Private rooms, and lap dances :D




I like EVERYTHING ther :hehe:

[HellRaiser]

DopeWars is without a doubt a competitive game wherefore everyone's ultimate objective is to win. Your suggestion that the "overall winner should be donation free" essentially means that donators would intentionally disqualify themselves from winning which arises the question why anyone would donate in the first place. It's not hard to see the problem here, is it?

Well I have an answer for that but not an answer an administration would accept or apply.
Donation or codes could be exempt from the 1 medal room in A and B rounds.
Thus everyone is exactly on the same playing field, thus the winner honestly outplayed with a bit of luck, winning fairly.

There is 3 other A rounds and 3 other B rounds people can donate as much as they want to get ahead.
No one has to know if they donated or used codes, it is merely doing so for bragging rights in those rooms.
Now I know administration would claim, taking donations/codes away from medal room use
would drop their income too much, but I don't buy it. I wouldn't be so bold to claim
80% of the players playing DW are either vocal or silent ego maniacs lol.
So to donate winning a room in each round or winning an title of overall from the 3 non medal rooms would still be enough.

But I do also think what you stated as other options is solid, but we both know that type of implementation would take forever here lol.

Hellraiser you were always about being realistic, well realistically, shady people do try to buy their way to the top in real life aswell im sure lol.

True, but this is supposed to be a fun online game, one could easily say buying an overall is no different then, ( here is the irony, catch 22 phrase now) legally cheating. ;)

[Ridgeback]

And as you can see, Ridge and Ian are actually two separate people. Ridge is the least senile of the two. I'd recommend sending all DW questions to him.

i've just seen that, so I've made an edit, not a very good ninja edit as it shows my bloody name!

[Kloaked Spirit]

Well I have an answer for that but not an answer an administration would accept or apply.
Donation or codes could be exempt from the 1 medal room in A and B rounds.
Thus everyone is exactly on the same playing field, thus the winner honestly outplayed with a bit of luck, winning fairly.

There is 3 other A rounds and 3 other B rounds people can donate as much as they want to get ahead.
No one has to know if they donated or used codes, it is merely doing so for bragging rights in those rooms.
Now I know administration would claim, taking donations/codes away from medal room use
would drop their income too much, but I don't buy it. I wouldn't be so bold to claim
80% of the players playing DW are either vocal or silent ego maniacs lol.
So to donate winning a room in each round or winning an title of overall from the 3 non medal rooms would still be enough.



There are now 2 medal rooms, not just the one. So are you saying we just disallow donations on one medal room and not the other? That won't work as the one that does allow donations will be pretty much certain to win the medals (most likely overall too.) We couldn't shut off donations for both medal rooms either.

Even if we were to work under the assumption that we only had 1 medal room, and that 1 medal room is donation free, that is going to make a major impact on the income OT does bring in regardless of if you buy that or not. Simply put it would be the most competitive of the rooms and people are more inclined to donate to take advantage of the bonuses than they would be in a non-medal room. To complete shut that sort of revenue stream off is never going to happen short of OT turning completely non-profit or something along those lines.

You're far more likely to get a non-medal room to be donation free as the impact would be less, and the overall/medal winning which helps drive competition would also be impacted less. The other option to keep donations fair but still coming in would be something along the lines of what Tim was suggesting. I'm sure that everyone can be along the same pages of how long such a radical change may take.

[holy shit]

who is this secret CEO you speak of?

[[]13[]]

Great Thread!

Not because of the no limit / no donating donating idea..i disagree with the notion myself , in any room.
But great ideas are being formed from it, so thanks to j_mouse2101 for starting it.

Thugging options being bought with donation codes is a big plus for gunners. Not sure about the difficulty in coding something like that, but even if it was just added to the game, its a great idea.

Maybe an ability to gun outside of your worth area. An extended Gunning area would be fun.

[Diezel]

this thread is garbage

[6m$SexGod]

this thread is garbage

I CANT BE ARSED TO READ THE 7 PAGES, ILL JUST BELIEVE ALAN :smiley:

[Jacx]

actually its a good thread, so u2 can fuck right off out of it!

[Diezel]

actually its a good thread, so u2 can fuck right off out of it!

^^^^^^^^this guys deserves an infraction for swearing out of a.i.w

[Ridgeback]

Umm Jacx you remember that one guy that well kinda holds a position over you but not rit... yeah I am pretty sure RORY is about the money... now I know that you are not all about the money because well you are not an ass monkey like RORY!

Anyways to the point of this thread... No max = FB problems

I say cut the max donation to $10.. people still get a small advantage but now the people who dont donate can still win

I still say rory is an ass that is too big of a coward to show his face around here

anyways thank god we have jacx on our side though ;) I am sure without jacx this place would be dump

who is this secret CEO you speak of?

the posts above yours might help explain

[Sir Mankalot]

:haha: @ chris

i needed explaning too.

[BIGRICK]

^^^^^^^^this guys deserves an infraction for swearing out of a.i.w

1 rule for one and 1 rule for the other eh?!!! FUCKING typical ;)

[Diogee]

1 rule for one and 1 rule for the other eh?!!! FUCKING typical ;)

lol both of you should go read the rules to posting... It does not say no swearing anywhere... but it does say no flaming :( so I will just leave it as go read the rules before you start demanding things to be enforced :P