manchester united...cheating or not?

[Chronic]

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i say not....players should change it up a bit instead of shooting the same way....plus they might of, and the goalie would of went the wrong way

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

soccer isnt a sport... get this out of sports center....lol

[Chronic]

thats a useless response....nice post count booster....next

[public_enemy]

soccer isnt a sport... get this out of sports center....lol

how can u say football isnt a sport, its one of the most popular sports in the world. oh and by the way man u kick ass won 2 cups already and could win another 3.

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

how can u say football isnt a sport, its one of the most popular sports in the world. oh and by the way man u kick ass won 2 cups already and could win another 3.

when the fans fight more than the players do.... its not a sport.... even baseball... a passive game... has dugout clearing brawls.... you know hockey players fight all the time... and American Football players the real football... players even get into it... but you hear more about soccer fans fighting than you do about those pussy ass bitches bring it to blows.... on and that zenido zidon thing all he did was headbutt someones chest.... have him try that in a real sport he would get his ass beat....

[herojuana]

when the fans fight more than the players do.... its not a sport.... even baseball... a passive game... has dugout clearing brawls.... you know hockey players fight all the time... and American Football players the real football... players even get into it... but you hear more about soccer fans fighting than you do about those pussy ass bitches bring it to blows.... on and that zenido zidon thing all he did was headbutt someones chest.... have him try that in a real sport he would get his ass beat....

The fact that you haev to say american football means that it is not real football.... do the fat twats that play that even use their feet? right ok fuck off

i think that is perfectly legal. nobody would have worried had he spent the 3 previous days studying tottenhams penalty taking at home, why does it matter if he does it there? a penalty is so much in the favour of the shooter the striker should still be able to score... mix it up a little you know

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

The fact that you haev to say american football means that it is not real football.... do the fat twats that play that even use their feet? right ok fuck off

i think that is perfectly legal. nobody would have worried had he spent the 3 previous days studying tottenhams penalty taking at home, why does it matter if he does it there? a penalty is so much in the favour of the shooter the striker should still be able to score... mix it up a little you know

yeah the fat twats use there feet... leverage is gained by using your lower body.... but if you want to talk about speed... how many soccer players can run (using there feet) a 4.3 forty.... i promise you there are more NFL players that can do that than soccer players.... btw alot of the fat twat offensive and defensive lineman could probably beat most soccer players in a sprint....

[public_enemy]

yeah the fat twats use there feet... leverage is gained by using your lower body.... but if you want to talk about speed... how many soccer players can run (using there feet) a 4.3 forty.... i promise you there are more NFL players that can do that than soccer players.... btw alot of the fat twat offensive and defensive lineman could probably beat most soccer players in a sprint....

basket ball, base ball, american football are shit. they r so boring stop start stop start all the waiting around boring as fuck foot ball kicks ass rugby's better than american football.

[EviLWaYz]

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i say not....players should change it up a bit instead of shooting the same way....plus they might of, and the goalie would of went the wrong way

i don't think its cheating i think he is just smart :closed:

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

basket ball, base ball, american football are shit. they r so boring stop start stop start all the waiting around boring as fuck foot ball kicks ass rugby's better than american football.

notice he didnt despute the fact that we have better athletes.... america could dominate any sport if we wanted.... and you know it....

[public_enemy]

notice he didnt despute the fact that we have better athletes.... america could dominate any sport if we wanted.... and you know it....

ball shit whys your football time shit then if u could dominate
america only play shit sports

[zwixxx]

are you guys seriously answering dumber muppet? this arrogant prick talks shit every time he posts.

back to topic...
it wasn't cheating. it was laziness because he should have done all that before...but not cheating

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

i dont know what your saying.... but even in crap sports we still dominate.... the world cant beat the US in the olympics because we are better at everything.... even our women soccer players won the world cup i believe.... you can bet our best male athletes out there we kick the shit out of the world... lebron would be doing shit with a soccer ball no one has ever seen....lol

[public_enemy]

i dont know what your saying.... but even in crap sports we still dominate.... the world cant beat the US in the olympics because we are better at everything.... even our women soccer players won the world cup i believe.... you but our best male athletes out there we kick the shit out of the world... lebron would be doing shit with a soccer ball no one has ever seen....lol

watever america will never be good at football cant be assed to debate about it any more bye

[zwixxx]

i dont know what your saying.... but even in crap sports we still dominate.... the world cant beat the US in the olympics because we are better at everything.... even our women soccer players won the world cup i believe.... you can bet our best male athletes out there we kick the shit out of the world... lebron would be doing shit with a soccer ball no one has ever seen....lol

Vancouver 2010...until then shove it:offtopic:

[public_enemy]

Vancouver 2010...until then shove it:offtopic:

i take it your from england

[zwixxx]

i take it your from england

nope. canada.

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

Vancouver 2010...until then shove it:offtopic:

oh we got snow boarders out the ass.... we dominate the winter olympics now too....

[public_enemy]

nope. canada.
cool alot better than stuck up america

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

cool alot better than stuck up america

stuck up america huh.... arent you the people that are run by ROYALTY..... get a black King or Queen then talk to us about being stuck up you pretenious fags... and not the cigarettes...

[zwixxx]

cool alot better than stuck up america

thank you. for the record tho i don't believe it's all americans. just a certain few that ruin it for the rest

dunder, in winter olympics, canada isn't far off in handing you guys your asses and it's widely expected we'll take the games next year on home turf. i'm not saying that's what WILL happen but don't count other countries out so easy. "mighty america" isn't so mighty nowadays

[public_enemy]

stuck up america huh.... arent you the people that are run by ROYALTY..... get a black King or Queen then talk to us about being stuck up you pretenious fags... and not the cigarettes...

we r not RUN by royalty we r run by parliment just cause u have a black president dosent mean your not stuck up. u have already said how good u think america is and how great they r. its fucking stupid america isnt great and it isnt good.

[zwixxx]

551i just remembered i had this...:haha:

crap...i just noticed it isn't sized right...anyone able to offer any help?

[public_enemy]

thats pretty good

[T.c.a.]

America invents their own stupid sports because they cant compete at anything else :haha:

America, the only country to invent a world series in a compeition that only teams from their own country take part in :haha:

[shadow]

For fuck sake dunder you really are are the most ignorant and foolish human being ive ever had the misfortune of reading.

Now:

when the fans fight more than the players do.... its not a sport.... even baseball... a passive game... has dugout clearing brawls.... you know hockey players fight all the time... and American Football players the real football... players even get into it... but you hear more about soccer fans fighting than you do about those pussy ass bitches bring it to blows.... on and that zenido zidon thing all he did was headbutt someones chest.... have him try that in a real sport he would get his ass beat....

So your claim here is that there needs to be violence on the pitch on a regular basis for football to be classed as a sport? How do you justify this statement? Look up sport and show me where it says regular violence is needed. Also the trouble between the fans is nowhere near as bad as it used to be, in the 80's for example.

yeah the fat twats use there feet... leverage is gained by using your lower body.... but if you want to talk about speed... how many soccer players can run (using there feet) a 4.3 forty.... i promise you there are more NFL players that can do that than soccer players.... btw alot of the fat twat offensive and defensive lineman could probably beat most soccer players in a sprint....

I have no idea what a 4.3 forty is to be honest with you but I presume it's an American Football play? If my assumptions are correct you've done well at making yourself look stupid (yet again)......I bet more footballers can score more goals in a minute from 100 yards out than American footballers.

i dont know what your saying.... but even in crap sports we still dominate.... the world cant beat the US in the olympics because we are better at everything.... even our women soccer players won the world cup i believe.... you can bet our best male athletes out there we kick the shit out of the world... lebron would be doing shit with a soccer ball no one has ever seen....lol

This is a bizzarly untrue statement. You don't even dominate basketball anymore never mind other sports. Get your head out of your arse and watch some world sports and you'll see what I mean. p.s Great Britain did pretty well in the last olympics and paralympics :D

stuck up america huh.... arent you the people that are run by ROYALTY..... get a black King or Queen then talk to us about being stuck up you pretenious fags... and not the cigarettes...

Ok as a country we're not 'run' by royalty. We are governed by the government. A black king or queen? So you think it's that easy, dpo you think each year we go find our king or queens on the street...no it's in the bloodline. Also you muppet, if there was a black king/queen (however it would be a more comparable statement if we discussed the Prime Minister but due to your ignorance we can stick with your example) they wouldn't get the amount of death threats president obama got just for being black.


I also read in one of your comments you claiming american football to be the real football, that doesnt explain why football is known as football world wide....just you yanks that claim otherwise.

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nuff said

[T.c.a.]

I have no idea what a 4.3 forty is to be honest with you but I presume it's an American Football play? If my assumptions are correct you've done well at making yourself look stupid (yet again)......I bet more footballers can score more goals in a minute from 100 yards out than American footballers.


im going to assume the dopey cunt means 4.3 seconds over 40 yards.......

36 metres roughly for those in proper measurements lol and dunder, you're so ignorant, its not funny

[shadow]

im going to assume the dopey cunt means 4.3 seconds over 40 yards.......

36 metres roughly for those in proper measurements lol and dunder, you're so ignorant, its not funny

oh well that's alot better, lol what a twat

[T.c.a.]

I reckon, this thread has turned into a brawl, its a sport, like omgz!!

:haha:

[shadow]

Who gets to name the sport?

Oh wait, lets let dunder do it...he is an almighty American after all.

[Kanders]

..another thread about reds cheating. Its an epidemic!

[Sir Brian]

but if you want to talk about speed... how many soccer players can run (using there feet) a 4.3 forty....

plenty you fucking moron.

[Sir Brian]

America invents their own stupid sports because they cant compete at anything else :haha:

America, the only country to invent a world series in a compeition that only teams from their own country take part in :haha:

quoted for truth.

[Sir Brian]

As the time after the end of extra time and before the start of the penalty shoot out is dead play; then this is not cheating at all. Just using their brains.

[public_enemy]

[QUOTE=Taiwanese Cultural Association;269711]America invents their own stupid sports because they cant compete at anything else :haha:

America, the only country to invent a world series in a compeition that only teams from their own country take part in :haha:


glad to see that some people agree with me

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

This is a bizzarly untrue statement. You don't even dominate basketball anymore never mind other sports. Get your head out of your arse and watch some world sports and you'll see what I mean. p.s Great Britain did pretty well in the last olympics and paralympics :D

scoreboard... and btw the USA actually brought a team this year to the olympics... and they didnt lose a game... i dont even think someone got within 20 points of them...lol... america dominates every sport...if we wanted too we would dominate soccer too but it sucks...lol

Rank Nation Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 United States (USA) 36 38 36 110
2 China (CHN) 51 21 28 100
3 Russia (RUS) 23 21 28 72
4 Great Britain (GBR) 19 13 15 47
6 Australia (AUS) 14 15 17 46

[zwixxx]

scoreboard... and btw the USA actually brought a team this year to the olympics... and they didnt lose a game... i dont even think someone got within 20 points of them...lol... america dominates every sport...if we wanted too we would dominate soccer too but it sucks...lol

Rank Nation Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 United States (USA) 36 38 36 110
2 China (CHN) 51 21 28 100
3 Russia (RUS) 23 21 28 72
4 Great Britain (GBR) 19 13 15 47
6 Australia (AUS) 14 15 17 46

and this dumber is why you look like a total arrogant and ignorant fuckwit
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[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

and this dumber is why you look like a total arrogant and ignorant fuckwit
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ok so someone came within 11 points of the USA... no one was gonna beat them... winning by 11 is still a blowout... and i would venture to say that there average margin of victory was over 20 points a game anyway.... and im only arrogant because its funny... if you actually get to know me im not that bad...lol

[zwixxx]

ok so someone came within 11 points of the USA... no one was gonna beat them... winning by 11 is still a blowout... and i would venture to say that there average margin of victory was over 20 points a game anyway.... and im only arrogant because its funny... if you actually get to know me im not that bad...lol

um, it wasn't the first time someone came that close to winning. read before you talk. and if you aren't that arrogant normally then stop acting like a dick. you seriously give americans a bad name...despite my rants i like americans...so you sir, are a natural idiot

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

just so you know there average margin of victory was 27 points... but if 1 person can make you think a country is arrogant then your very simple minded... so should i think all germans hate jews because there was a guy named hitler.... or should i think all french people are cowards because... well they actually are....lol... but you know what im saying....lol

[zwixxx]

just so you know there average margin of victory was 27 points... but if 1 person can make you think a country is arrogant then your very simple minded... so should i think all germans hate jews because there was a guy named hitler.... or should i think all french people are cowards because... well they actually are....lol... but you know what im saying....lol

did you not read what i said? i said YOU give americans a bad name (meaning when asshats like you hit a forum and talk like that...). i didn't say you are the end all and be all of what i think about americans. in fact, i said i like americans in general...fuck dumber you just get stupider with each post...

[zwixxx]

...at risk of beating a dead horse...

dunder...since i know you yankee throwball lovers can't keep interest for more than 2 minutes per play...here's some short clips and i'd like you to tell us how you figure footy doesn't require better talent than the NFL. cheers

YouTube - CRISTIANO RONALDO RACING A BUGATTI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv2dkd1ZiO0)

YouTube - Gerrard - Clay Pigeons * (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6IcLXzwwEs)

YouTube - Wayne Rooney: Nike Football Target Practice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTXhyJszQ4)

YouTube - Ronaldinho Nike Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NdjWBVQt8o)

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

...at risk of beating a dead horse...

dunder...since i know you yankee throwball lovers can't keep interest for more than 2 minutes per play...here's some short clips and i'd like you to tell us how you figure footy doesn't require better talent than the NFL. cheers

YouTube - CRISTIANO RONALDO RACING A BUGATTI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv2dkd1ZiO0)

YouTube - Gerrard - Clay Pigeons * (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6IcLXzwwEs)

YouTube - Wayne Rooney: Nike Football Target Practice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTXhyJszQ4)

YouTube - Ronaldinho Nike Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NdjWBVQt8o)


2 mins per play your giving us way to much credit...lol... the average football play last about 8 seconds.... and then they get 40 more seconds before they have to run the next one.... lol

[T.c.a.]

Try playing a game like NRL where the play is running constantly for 40 minutes each way.

[Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.]

Try playing a game like NRL where the play is running constantly for 40 minutes each way.

thats how we have our kids play games.... with a running clock.... that just makes the game end to fast.... there is more drama in the real football than there is in soccer because of that.... the super bowl gets 1 billion people world wide to watch that one game.... thats 17 percent of the world watching one game... only played in america.... now lets count the billions of people that dont have tvs world wide and your looking at like 40 to 50 percent of the tv having population watching our sport.... soccer cant do that.... even though its "the sport the world likes"

[T.c.a.]

thats how we have our kids play games.... with a running clock.... that just makes the game end to fast.... there is more drama in the real football than there is in soccer because of that.... the super bowl gets 1 billion people world wide to watch that one game.... thats 17 percent of the world watching one game... only played in america.... now lets count the billions of people that dont have tvs world wide and your looking at like 40 to 50 percent of the tv having population watching our sport.... soccer cant do that.... even though its "the sport the world likes"

...................... <--- see that? me not caring :)

[Sir Brian]

thats how we have our kids play games.... with a running clock.... that just makes the game end to fast.... there is more drama in the real football than there is in soccer because of that.... the super bowl gets 1 billion people world wide to watch that one game.... thats 17 percent of the world watching one game... only played in america.... now lets count the billions of people that dont have tvs world wide and your looking at like 40 to 50 percent of the tv having population watching our sport.... soccer cant do that.... even though its "the sport the world likes"


.....................< see that? me not caring either :)

[Alf uckem]

scoreboard... and btw the USA actually brought a team this year to the olympics... and they didnt lose a game... i dont even think someone got within 20 points of them...lol... america dominates every sport...if we wanted too we would dominate soccer too but it sucks...lol

Rank Nation Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 United States (USA) 36 38 36 110
2 China (CHN) 51 21 28 100
3 Russia (RUS) 23 21 28 72
4 Great Britain (GBR) 19 13 15 47
6 Australia (AUS) 14 15 17 46

yeah well done on track cycling though

[Sovereign]

American football is far more physically exerting than you non-fans would ever believe. You can think because a 150lb guy runs into a 150lb guy with no pads, that rugby is somehow more hardcore than nfl football.

Watch this and think again.

YouTube - NFL's Hardest Hit 2007 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJY07J9P7fg)
YouTube - Steeler Ryan Clark Hit on Raven Willis McGahee HQ Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D430XbHueY)

[T.c.a.]

American football is far more physically exerting than you non-fans would ever believe. You can think because a 150lb guy runs into a 150lb guy with no pads, that rugby is somehow more hardcore than nfl football.

Watch this and think again.

YouTube - NFL's Hardest Hit 2007 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJY07J9P7fg)
YouTube - Steeler Ryan Clark Hit on Raven Willis McGahee HQ Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D430XbHueY)

We're not saying it isnt, we're saying dunder is an idiot :thumbs:

i have alot of respect for AMERICAN football and would watch it if it didn't fucking stop so often, call me old fashioned, but i dont have 3 hours to watch a goddamn game :haha:

[zwixxx]

We're not saying it isnt, we're saying dunder is an idiot :thumbs:

i have alot of respect for AMERICAN football and would watch it if it didn't fucking stop so often, call me old fashioned, but i dont have 3 hours to watch a goddamn game :haha:

exactly, it's not that american football doesn't have skill...just that dunder thinks it doesn't compare to anything american.

[Sir Brian]

We're not saying it isnt, we're saying dunder is an idiot :thumbs:

i have alot of respect for AMERICAN football and would watch it if it didn't fucking stop so often, call me old fashioned, but i dont have 3 hours to watch a goddamn game :haha:

exactly. that is the ONE thing that winds western sports fans up, is the fact that it stops sooooooooo fucking often and for soooooooooooo fucking long.


try playing a proper sport where the action is relentless;

wether that be rugby league, rugby union, football, field hockey, shinty etc.... :blah::blah:

wether it be shitty 4 halfs per game (ice hockey) or a break every throw (yank "football"), your sports take waaaaaaaay too much time to throw up any excited and are way to regimented.

the way to a good sport is to have basic principles and let the players make up the ebb and flow of the game. rather than this bullshit manipulation of play that we see in many north american " " " " " sports" " " " " ".

[zwixxx]

exactly. that is the ONE thing that winds western sports fans up, is the fact that it stops sooooooooo fucking often and for soooooooooooo fucking long.


try playing a proper sport where the action is relentless;

wether that be rugby league, rugby union, football, field hockey, shinty etc.... :blah::blah:

wether it be shitty 4 halfs per game (ice hockey) or a break every throw (yank "football"), your sports take waaaaaaaay too much time to throw up any excited and are way to regimented.

the way to a good sport is to have basic principles and let the players make up the ebb and flow of the game. rather than this bullshit manipulation of play that we see in many north american " " " " " sports" " " " " ".


sorry...it's 3 periods. i had to being canuckian...

hockey has more endurance than any pussy sport the yanks can pull up anyway. watching yankee throwball is painful...it's a 3 second spot and then 60 for them to debate the play while you hit the pisser or grab a beer. it's only great for a few hard hits and some cheerleaders....and janet jackson's titties...

[T.c.a.]

I actually wouldn't mind playing ice hockey, not a huge thing here though :(

[herojuana]

exactly. that is the ONE thing that winds western sports fans up, is the fact that it stops sooooooooo fucking often and for soooooooooooo fucking long.


try playing a proper sport where the action is relentless;

wether that be rugby league, rugby union, football, field hockey, shinty etc.... :blah::blah:

wether it be shitty 4 halfs per game (ice hockey) or a break every throw (yank "football"), your sports take waaaaaaaay too much time to throw up any excited and are way to regimented.

the way to a good sport is to have basic principles and let the players make up the ebb and flow of the game. rather than this bullshit manipulation of play that we see in many north american " " " " " sports" " " " " ".

i see zwixx already corrected you on the fact its 3 periods, i would just like to point out if it was 4 breaks, they would be quarters not halfs :P

also ice hockey is awesome :D

[PunkRock]

United are always cheating, end of.