Will Liverpool:Part Deux

[Alf uckem]

Well its that type of year again folks when I like to gloat and laugh att everyone that tried fighting back, you got pwned end of, no comeback.

These massive signings from last year might kick on soon, hopefully eh rafa?

With gbh gerrard and co i reckon they might even be out of the big 4 now city are making their 10 man attack formation:haha:

So get your humblepie out and lets go again bitches!!:thumbs:

[I'm teh birfday boy]

I soo much hope we do win this year.

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[Dalamar]

sorry...not enough sqaud depth to compete again this season....

Your star signing is glenn johnson FFS!!!

:haha:

[steff]

I soo much hope we do win this year.

Finally a realist among them! Hoping rather than betting every possession you own.

Still... +1 for another "we were unlucky in every competition" season.

[swiss miss]

shouldnt we now have a: "will manchester city" thread??

they are the new big spenders in the league and ought to break into the top 4, but will they????????????

[Sir Brian]

I see Villa beating one of Liverpool or Arsenal to 4th this season.

As your man said - Glen Johnson (at 17million :|) is your big summer signing for christ sake!

I also can't see Man City getting into the Champions League this year.

[steff]

shouldnt we now have a: "will manchester city" thread??

they are the new big spenders in the league and ought to break into the top 4, but will they????????????

Na, there aren't any Man City fans that yearly proclaim the league is in the bag since they are the best team in England.

[Asshole]

i think we will find in the last thread i did not believe we would win it last season, BUT after going so close last year, i do actually think we have a good chance this time around..

You all mock liverpools signing but..

Chelsea have signed one unproven young winger and daniel sturridge.. who has only done one impressive thing in his career so far, set up robinho.. the rest are all another year older, and you could see that last year

United have lost ronaldo and tevez, two match winning players, andf singed valencia, benzema and michael owen, a mid table player at best, a kid from france who himself said he probably was not good enough and somebody who lost it after he went to real madrid, and even helped his previous club go down last year.. giggs scholes etc another year older, and they were avarage last year compared to 3/4 years ago..

Arsenal, just sell... adebayor, and toure, and look to replace them with viera.... to plagiarize jacx.. nuff said !


Liverpool on the other hand, ended the season well, have sold no one of real importance yet (altho it looks like xabi is off) and still have money to spend, rafa just waiting for the market to die down, when real and man city have stopped blowing their money all over the place, same arguably as it seems fergie is doing, Johnson is an improvement on arbeloa, insua came through well last year at left back, benayoun has improved immensley in the last year, and in kuyt we have the second most effective right winger in the league from last season (ronaldo being first of course)

Yes xabi going will be a big blow, but gerrard can play that role better anyway, and benayoun proved last season he can cover the gerrard role, just as lucas showed great improvement at the end of the year in the middle, so with a reported 22million + huntleharr im not too worried by it..


So in short, of the top 4 teams i think liverpool have done the best this year in terms of keeping together / strengthening thier squad.. we will definatley be there about at the end of the season.. id even go so far as to say i expetc the league table to read 1. liv 2. Man utd 3. chelski 4. Man city

This of course will all change depending on the signings yet to be done! one more quality centre back and id even hazard to put city above chelsea, centre back and a good MC and i reckon theres an outside chance of finishing higher, depending on how they all gel

[Sir Brian]

What a miserable bastard organisation.

[shadow]

sorry...not enough sqaud depth to compete again this season....

Your star signing is glenn johnson FFS!!!

:haha:

You don't have a clue, Glenn Johnson is better than half the side backs in the premier league. We've made few but smart signings, we've replaced players we've lost.

Andy, don't be a douche....man you arn't as strong as they were last year and Liverpool are just as strong....go figure.

And Man city? lol There's only so many forwards you can play at once, lets see how happy they are sharing the bench....and lets hope their moral and playing standards don't drop because of it.

i think we will find in the last thread i did not believe we would win it last season, BUT after going so close last year, i do actually think we have a good chance this time around..

You all mock liverpools signing but..

Chelsea have signed one unproven young winger and daniel sturridge.. who has only done one impressive thing in his career so far, set up robinho.. the rest are all another year older, and you could see that last year

United have lost ronaldo and tevez, two match winning players, andf singed valencia, benzema and michael owen, a mid table player at best, a kid from france who himself said he probably was not good enough and somebody who lost it after he went to real madrid, and even helped his previous club go down last year.. giggs scholes etc another year older, and they were avarage last year compared to 3/4 years ago..

Arsenal, just sell... adebayor, and toure, and look to replace them with viera.... to plagiarize jacx.. nuff said !


Liverpool on the other hand, ended the season well, have sold no one of real importance yet (altho it looks like xabi is off) and still have money to spend, rafa just waiting for the market to die down, when real and man city have stopped blowing their money all over the place, same arguably as it seems fergie is doing, Johnson is an improvement on arbeloa, insua came through well last year at left back, benayoun has improved immensley in the last year, and in kuyt we have the second most effective right winger in the league from last season (ronaldo being first of course)

Yes xabi going will be a big blow, but gerrard can play that role better anyway, and benayoun proved last season he can cover the gerrard role, just as lucas showed great improvement at the end of the year in the middle, so with a reported 22million + huntleharr im not too worried by it..


So in short, of the top 4 teams i think liverpool have done the best this year in terms of keeping together / strengthening thier squad.. we will definatley be there about at the end of the season.. id even go so far as to say i expetc the league table to read 1. liv 2. Man utd 3. chelski 4. Man city

This of course will all change depending on the signings yet to be done! one more quality centre back and id even hazard to put city above chelsea, centre back and a good MC and i reckon theres an outside chance of finishing higher, depending on how they all gel

i agree with all that exept I think benzema has alot to offer and could replace ronaldo on the right - but not at the same standard.

[Sir Brian]

"Side-backs"

:wtf:

[shadow]

petty

[Asshole]

Ooops!! my last post benzema should have read as "Obertan"

[shadow]

LOL good, I thought I was a little behind on some of the transfers...Benzema still = real Madrid. That's even better.

ps. Alonso's gone, whilst we've lost a talented player that doesn't weaken our midfield, we have players to fill his position. If anything I think we should use the money to buy another striker.

[Diezel]

Fuck English football


Rangers for the Scottish premier league and Cup Double (Y)



And 2 Scottish teams in the group stages of the Champions league the mighty Rangers and the vermin of Glasgow Celtic and on average they will do better than your 4 or is 5 teams you got in there now ,wait and see

O And Man Unt will win the English Premier EASILY again
:closed:

Ps Maradonna is a Legend :angel:

[newportbadboy]

I d have to say watch for wilshire in Arsenal..He is only 17 but he will be the english messi this season..mark my words..

Yeah Benzema is in Real madrid..they did pay shit loads of money for him too :S but he is a great transfer to me....

I agree that Liverpool kept their squad together besides Xabi alonso which they got paid 30 mil Euro and already found a replacement for him 20 mil euro less...maybe another star they will be fine..

If i were rafa i d so buy deco from chelsea to replace xabi...

[shadow]

Fuck English football


Rangers for the Scottish premier league and Cup Double (Y)



And 2 Scottish teams in the group stages of the Champions league the mighty Rangers and the vermin of Glasgow Celtic and on average they will do better than your 4 or is 5 teams you got in there now ,wait and see

O And Man Unt will win the English Premier EASILY again
:closed:

Ps Maradonna is a Legend :angel:

LOL typical guy who knows fuck all about football, you can tell by the comercial shite they spew just who such people are.

ps. Rangers and Celtic are the only 2 teams worthy of being placed in Division one of the English leagues, hearts might just make Divison 2.

I d have to say watch for wilshire in Arsenal..He is only 17 but he will be the english messi this season..mark my words..

Yeah Benzema is in Real madrid..they did pay shit loads of money for him too :S but he is a great transfer to me....

I agree that Liverpool kept their squad together besides Xabi alonso which they got paid 30 mil Euro and already found a replacement for him 20 mil euro less...maybe another star they will be fine..

If i were rafa i d so buy deco from chelsea to replace xabi...

We've sold a couple of defenders aswell but we have youth defenders that have come into the squad and have done well plus johnson will be a very good replacement for Arbeloa, I think he will be better.

We are thinking of buying Aquilani to replace Alonso which would be a good buy. H ewould fit nicely into cntral midfield between Masch and Gerrad.

We played well today and our youth players are really showing their quality and mascherno his true quality.

[Diezel]

LOL typical guy who knows fuck all about football, you can tell by the comercial shite they spew just who such people are.

ps. Rangers and Celtic are the only 2 teams worthy of being placed in Division one of the English leagues, hearts might just make Divison 2.

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Right dafty i know fuckall about football :haha: ive won more medals and cups in REAL FOOTBALL LEAGUES than you have been beaten up for being a nerd :haha:

And what a pile of bullshit Rangers and celtic only good enough for the first division ,if i can remember right booth Rangers and Celtic been to th ueafa cup final in previous years ,plus the fact anytime we come up against you english fucks in competive football we beat you .for example Celtic beating Man Unt and then analy raping your shity liverpool team 3-1 i believe ,so dont give me the shit we could not compete if celtic and rangers were in the premiership we would booth be top 5 teams after a settling in period of 2-3 years so jog on son and comeback with some facts before you start talking shite ..

[shadow]

Right dafty i know fuckall about football :haha: ive won more medals and cups in REAL FOOTBALL LEAGUES than you have been beaten up for being a nerd :haha:

And what a pile of bullshit Rangers and celtic only good enough for the first division ,if i can remember right booth Rangers and Celtic been to th ueafa cup final in previous years ,plus the fact anytime we come up against you english fucks in competive football we beat you .for example Celtic beating Man Unt and then analy raping your shity liverpool team 3-1 i believe ,so dont give me the shit we could not compete if celtic and rangers were in the premiership we would booth be top 5 teams after a settling in period of 2-3 years so jog on son and comeback with some facts before you start talking shite ..

I doubt that, I've been beaten up 385 times to date for being a nerd....twice this morning, so jog on mate.

I'm telling you rangers and celtic are not a top 5 premiership side, fact. FFS playing you gusy is like playing a friendly, plus in our defence, Liverpool lose may games to shitty clubs than we do the big clubs. It's the Liverpool curse.

In 2 - 3 years? Mzybe if you pull a "Man City" or a "Real Madrid"

[steff]

LOL typical guy who knows fuck all about football, you can tell by the comercial shite they spew just who such people are.

ps. Rangers and Celtic are the only 2 teams worthy of being placed in Division one of the English leagues, hearts might just make Divison 2.


You're the one being "typical" and "spewing" shite. Lets look at the facts...

Rangers reached the UEFA Cup final 2 seasons ago. Celtic a few seasons before that. On the way we beat English teams or better foreign teams that knocked out English teams. How can you say the OF would be in the 1st Division without it being complete drivel? Rangers and Celtic would be midtable sides in the EPL to begin with but with the added cash (you realize the team getting RELEGATED from the EPL gets more cash than the SPL WINNER?) the EPL brings we would easily turn the "big 4" into the "big 6". I'm not saying how long it would take to get to the stage of being able to challenge for the title because Liverpool/Arsenal aren't even at that stage! Rangers and Celtic pull 50k/60k EVERY league game. Playing in the EPL with higher ticket prices and better ties than "OF v Hamilton" we'd pull in way more fans of both home and away support.

tl;dr
OF moving to EPL - midtable sides
OF in EPL for 5 or so seasons - "big 4" turn to "big 6"
Saying OF should be in the same league as Milton Keynes Dons - fucking moron window licking cunt

[shadow]

You're the one being "typical" and "spewing" shite. Lets look at the facts...

Rangers reached the UEFA Cup final 2 seasons ago. Celtic a few seasons before that. On the way we beat English teams or better foreign teams that knocked out English teams. How can you say the OF would be in the 1st Division without it being complete drivel? Rangers and Celtic would be midtable sides in the EPL to begin with but with the added cash (you realize the team getting RELEGATED from the EPL gets more cash than the SPL WINNER?) the EPL brings we would easily turn the "big 4" into the "big 6". I'm not saying how long it would take to get to the stage of being able to challenge for the title because Liverpool/Arsenal aren't even at that stage! Rangers and Celtic pull 50k/60k EVERY league game. Playing in the EPL with higher ticket prices and better ties than "OF v Hamilton" we'd pull in way more fans of both home and away support.

tl;dr
OF moving to EPL - midtable sides
OF in EPL for 5 or so seasons - "big 4" turn to "big 6"
Saying OF should be in the same league as Milton Keynes Dons - fucking moron window licking cunt

My post was meant at a banter insult to the to Scottish clubs nothing more. Of course rangers and celtic would do well in the premier league but to say they are better than Liverpool or Arsenal is complete rubbish, seriously slap them both in the premiership and they'll finish top 10 just about every season but to say your sure they'll finish in the top 5 is bollocks.

[Diezel]

My post was meant at a banter insult to the to Scottish clubs nothing more. Of course rangers and celtic would do well in the premier league but to say they are better than Liverpool or Arsenal is complete rubbish, seriously slap them both in the premiership and they'll finish top 10 just about every season but to say your sure they'll finish in the top 5 is bollocks.


Girl :run:

[steff]

No chance in the world would we finish top 5 within the first few seasons... but also there is no chance in the world we wouldn't eventually be top 5. :P

There is like no money in Scottish football yet we keep sending the OF into Europe and by and large we do do well. So it would be inevitable that with the massive funds boost of the EPL that we would be competitve in the league and also Europe if we qualified.

[shadow]

Ok and that was my argument, regardless of the who, what, where, when's and why's you wouldn't compete with the top clubs in the premier league...ok that's because you don't have the quality of players they have due to finances but isn't that the problem with all football teams? The English teams in the premiership with less cash and mostly English players are just as good and some are better than your top 2 teams.

[mr doom]

Ok and that was my argument, regardless of the who, what, where, when's and why's you wouldn't compete with the top clubs in the premier league...ok that's because you don't have the quality of players they have due to finances but isn't that the problem with all football teams? The English teams in the premiership with less cash and mostly English players are just as good and some are better than your top 2 teams.


if you put them in the championship this season they would not both get promoted.

[steff]

Yes they would. Seriously were you dropped on your head as a child? Can you not read any of the facts? Go google the results in Europe the past 3 seasons for Rangers and Celtic. Who the fuck are AC Milan? Barcelona? Man Utd? Fiorentina? Stuttgart? etc...

[Sir Brian]

With all due respect Steff, i think if Rangers and Celtic were to move into English Football, it would be only fair for you to enter the second teir.

While, yes i agree they've done well in European Football, i also believe your behind in terms of quality of all but the 5 worst teams in the Premiership. And thus i believe it would be justifiable to force you to gain promotion before you played in The Prem.



As for when it will happen, i can only see the Old Firm entering English Football when this 2 tiered Premier League occurs; with 20 teams in 2 Divisions.

Because i cannot see The Premier League voting to increase their league to 22 teams (just see how they moan of congestion at the mo.) And as for you taking the place of 2 "none-relegated" Prem sides i cannot see this happening. (If it remained 20 team league, and 5 were relegated in a 1 off season.)

As for you entering The Championship; while you (and i name shadow in a different breath) and the glory-hunting BSkyBRetardlettes such as Shadow, may belittle lesser Championship teams such as your Doncasters, Barnsleys etc... I cannot for 1 second see The English Football League voting to allow your 2 into the Championship in the place of 2 "small" English teams.



On a side point, take no notice of shadow. I went to school with a kid like him - a Leeds United fan whom had been to 1 game in his life and thus thought he had the right to belittle my team week in week out - despite the fact he had fuck all to do with the club he "supported".After a few years of this cunt, i twatted him and he ended up needing stitches ;) Needless to say he never said another word. :P

If only shadow would walk across my path one day. :flowers:



And Diezel.... :eng: :fu: :haha:

[newportbadboy]

come on brits fighting over who has the better team?

If my team was in premier league,we d burn down the whole united kingdom and fuck all you brits

Here is the real team,the real fans...YELLLOW-RED THE LIONS....:D

YouTube - 3000 Me?ale ile Türkiye Rekoru (GS-febe) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT76sj-XOUg&feature=fvw)

[Sir Brian]

:footy: :puke: :footy: :amflag: :footy: :puke: :footy:

die.

[shadow]

Just so it's noted

wtf is a BSkyBRetardlettes

2nd - if I was to walk down your path........?

3rd, I watch most premier league games and alot of championship games so I do know what I'm talking about and to imply I only watch Liverpool amuses me.

When i insult the "lesser" english clubs it's in pure banter, doesn't mean I don't watch them and enjoy watching them....now fuck off.

If only you were to walk down my path one day *smirks* if only, Jerk

[Sir Brian]

Just so it's noted

wtf is a BSkyBRetardlettes

2nd - if I was to walk down your path........?

3rd, I watch most premier league games and alot of championship games so I do know what I'm talking about and to imply I only watch Liverpool amuses me.

When i insult the "lesser" english clubs it's in pure banter, doesn't mean I don't watch them and enjoy watching them....now fuck off.

If only you were to walk down my path one day *smirks* if only, Jerk

Did Not Read A Word.

[steff]

lol :D

I know it wouldn't be fair on any side for us to just walk into the Premiership. I wouldn't mind starting a few divisions lower because I am confident we have the team to get promoted and the potential investors to stay in the EPL. The way shadow put it was that we shouldn't be allowed into the EPL or the Championship because we aren't good enough for either which is complete nonsense.

Anyway, back on track. :steff: will win the EPL.

[Diezel]

Says it all from earlier tonight

Man City 2-3 Rangers


:yay:

[Sir Brian]

Pair of Hun Bastards :glare:



:eng:



:yay: :yay: :yay:

[steff]

Still no Union Flag :(

Big Davie Weir, he's like 70 yet still playing at top tier football and in Europe lol. AC Milan will be after him next to lower the squads average age. :P

[Diezel]

Still no Union Flag :(

Big Davie Weir, he's like 70 yet still playing at top tier football and in Europe lol. AC Milan will be after him next to lower the squads average age. :P



:haha: good one

And to all them Tims out there we would rather have Big Davie starting for next 10 years than have qa central partnership of Lovens and the great Gary Caldwell :haha:



No surender

[mr doom]

Yes they would. Seriously were you dropped on your head as a child? Can you not read any of the facts? Go google the results in Europe the past 3 seasons for Rangers and Celtic. Who the fuck are AC Milan? Barcelona? Man Utd? Fiorentina? Stuttgart? etc...

no i was not dropped on my head but you may of been i read your post stating that 1 of the 2 teams would be top 5 in the prem is that with man utd
chelsea ,arsenal ,liverpool and everton in there at the time ?

:haha:

[Diezel]

no i was not dropped on my head but you may of been i read your post stating that 1 of the 2 teams would be top 5 in the prem is that with man utd
chelsea ,arsenal ,liverpool and everton in there at the time ?

:haha:


in the long run perry only teams that would have the finacial muscle to compete with the OF iIF we were ever in the EP is Man U/Liverpool and Chelsea <--- facts based on attendaces club wealth ,merchanise etc to even mention everton is laughable

[newportbadboy]

in the long run perry only teams that would have the finacial muscle to compete with the OF iIF we were ever in the EP is Man U/Liverpool and Chelsea <--- facts based on attendaces club wealth ,merchanise etc to even mention everton is laughable

IF celtics and rangers were in premier league yes i m sure they d be stronger...The problem is not only financially..Its about the quality of the premier league..Come on you could claim Celtics and rangers are the best team in the world if u are insane enough but u can never compare premier league with scottish league whatever u guys call it...

Bayern munchen would be also top 5 in premier league every year but i doubt bundesliga is as good as premier league...

Its sad but a fact..Kaka said in his speech that as much as he will enjoy playing in real madrid one of the reasons he came to real was to help AC Milan financially..I cant remember which team but some other team from a shitty league offered him more money than real but he didnt prefer...OF course its a good choice but this shows the quailty


Yeah plus YouTube - Galatasaray Istanbul vs Glasgow Rangers (Mario Jardel Süper Gol) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD5CpkxjamI)
YouTube - Galatasaray Istanbul vs Glasgow Rangers (Hakan Ünsal Enfes Golu) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCL5SMCaDs8&feature=related)

:D

[Diezel]

IF celtics and rangers were in premier league yes i m sure they d be stronger...The problem is not only financially..Its about the quality of the premier league..Come on you could claim Celtics and rangers are the best team in the world if u are insane enough but u can never compare premier league with scottish league whatever u guys call it...

Bayern munchen would be also top 5 in premier league every year but i doubt bundesliga is as good as premier league...

Its sad but a fact..Kaka said in his speech that as much as he will enjoy playing in real madrid one of the reasons he came to real was to help AC Milan financially..I cant remember which team but some other team from a shitty league offered him more money than real but he didnt prefer...OF course its a good choice but this shows the quailty


Yeah plus YouTube - Galatasaray Istanbul vs Glasgow Rangers (Mario Jardel Süper Gol) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD5CpkxjamI)
YouTube - Galatasaray Istanbul vs Glasgow Rangers (Hakan Ünsal Enfes Golu) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCL5SMCaDs8&feature=related)

:D





Put this in your pipe and smoke it

YouTube - Gio Van Bronckhorst Freekick / Rangers v Galatasaray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apdza3Y26aI) ;)


And this will also be usefull to you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsh_ctBF1-I&feature=related

[steff]

Germany isn't part of Britain though. Scotland is.

Oh, and isn't that the same year this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_UEFA_Cup_Final) happened?

[newportbadboy]

Germany isn't part of Britain though. Scotland is.

Oh, and isn't that the same year this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_UEFA_Cup_Final) happened?

thats the year after we won the UEFA CUP....we won the cup 1999-2000 season..and played the rangers 2000-2001 season...if my memory serves me right..we played 2 games and won one 3-2 in istanbul and 0-0 in glasgow...

The day we won the cup I have never felt any better than that day...I dont remember anything for awhilea fter popescu kicked the penalty in...literally broke 2-3 vases in the house after i jumped on the couch with friends and land on the coffee table..oh best second got to be after we beat R.madrid and won super cup that year :street:


YouTube - galatasaray - arsenal (uefa kupas? finali) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cgSqn7tiTU&feature=related)

[Diezel]

thats the year after we won the UEFA CUP....we won the cup 1999-2000 season..and played the rangers 2000-2001 season...if my memory serves me right..we played 2 games and won one 3-2 in istanbul and 0-0 in glasgow...

The day we won the cup I have never felt any better than that day...I dont remember anything for awhilea fter popescu kicked the penalty in...literally broke 2-3 vases in the house after i jumped on the couch with friends and land on the coffee table..oh best second got to be after we beat R.madrid and won super cup that year :street:




YouTube - galatasaray - arsenal (uefa kupas? finali) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cgSqn7tiTU&feature=related)

You drew the game you said was 3-2 ,3-3 i believe ;)

[newportbadboy]

You drew the game you said was 3-2 ,3-3 i believe ;)

no i m pretty sure 2000-2001 game was 3-2 and 0-0


even on the video steff posted u can see bronckhorst scored the freekick at 94th min and it was 3-2 :D

[Diezel]

no i m pretty sure 2000-2001 game was 3-2 and 0-0


even on the video steff posted u can see bronckhorst scored the freekick at 94th min and it was 3-2 :D



it was me who posted that vid ;)

[newportbadboy]

it was me who posted that vid ;)

oh yeah i just saw :hehe:


I remember Tugay in rangers :thumbs:

[Diezel]

oh yeah i just saw :hehe:


I remember Tugay in rangers :thumbs:

Tugay is a legend (Y)

[Sir Brian]

Still... only Man Utd and Liverpool have bettered Nottingham Forest in Europe.

Keep Dreaming Britain.

:hiya:

[mr doom]

Still... only Man Utd and Liverpool have bettered Nottingham Forest in Europe.

Keep Dreaming Britain.

:hiya:

that dont leave a lot of british clubs that have won it lol


only villa and celtic