View Full Version : Ninja Llamas Bye Bye Thread
ZERAT
20th September 2009, 08:09 AM
Ok llamas are really going away this time....we will be back one day i guess for a round or two...but not for a long time i wouldn't think.
Agames: We dominated Agames all the while we were there and it was great fun...
our first ever round was in A4 (april 2008) where i just spammed on GT it was my first round and the llamas first round.... Outlawz won that room lol.
http://forum.oddthought.com/v2-games-scores/13309-game-round-9-april-2008-a.html
after that i went to a1 with llamas and suprisingly a few of them a4 peeps stuck it out with me which was cool but in a1 was back to recruiting on GT to get members....did that for a couple rounds and in our 4th round we got our first gold.
http://forum.oddthought.com/v2-games-scores/14895-game-round-12-july-2008-a.html
it wasn't until Rach (lowin) told me she couldn't respect a cartel leader who never played junkies that i started llamas on junkie cartels...we only ever had 1 junkie cartel until we came back from our 2months off earlier this year (may 2009).
anyway was fun and i love all you llamas.
Bgames: went a good few rounds playing Bgames and Agames at the same time and we consistently were a contender in Bgames...had a gold snatched away by a puller in one of our first few rounds in Bgames...always played our best but sometimes just got unlucky (ie. the time raz thought "Team Tca" was UZ Grrr). We pitched off (a new young cartel) against v2 Reds who were very good (don't really care what anyone says) and came off 2nd best too many times :P but Bgames would have been boring if it was just llamas and White Powder lol.
Recently we cam back to Bgames and managed somehow to get silver from the room of death (b2) in the first round and then what SHOULD have been a gold from b2 the following round (if it wasn't for the puller but owel).
anyway it was good.
people to thank: well there is a long list of them but i'll try to remember them all and if i don't mention you then shout at me on msn and i'll edit the post lol.
Azura - joined maybe about this time last year and has been great to ponder over strats with and to keep me clued up on my DWs history lessons lol...he's always there to do some behind the scenes dirty work or nice work and is a real stand up guy.
Stop - has been a Agame llamas for a good long time now and is as loyal as they come...he runs a top notch gun crew in A4 and got silver with deadly dealers in B2.
Jesse - He is just awesome lol ....most the time we don't talk about DWs but we have fun anyway and i always let him on machines which was good because he'd always bang out top notch scores (2 overalls in llamas).
Dogger - always stuck by me...was a cabby but he usually concentrated on a3 (where i was a cab in Smokin Aces but id concentrate on a1 lol)
Shadow - Recently became a cabby and is very loyal to the cause...does alot of work for the cartel he plays for as he did in llamas...stand up guy.
and the rest i'll list... Commander John, *B.I.G-J.O.E*, Just Shaky, CrackerJack, BroadmoorJim, Jeffromofo, Zwixxx, Nexus, Dai, Don't Front, Ruffnready, Steff, Shadow Ninja, Raskil, Kanders, Flipchic, Quakums, Cleaver, James T, Lockie, Lurkmode, !clo!, *maddie*, TPN, Katemossberg, Armour, herojuana, Gera, GunnerKid, Munky, Nova, Engin, Andrius and anyone else i missed :)
if you could all reply with when you started llamas and the round you started llamas in that would be cooool
ninja llamas achievments to date:
Highest ever Agames Score (2.74bill in a 33day round)
Most Agames gold medals of any cartel
Longest V2 gold streak - 4 golds
Highest Scoring cartel in the V2 medals Tables (40 points total)
Carlsberg don't make Dopewars cartels but if they did....
Jeffromofo
20th September 2009, 08:14 AM
Was a pleasure to play in Llamas :awesome:
I'm sure you will bring them back one day soon liam lol.
Played 1st round for them Round 14
i couldnt think of a handle $117,118,533
Az
20th September 2009, 08:24 AM
tis been a long ride, tis been a great ride. A: R14: 55 Anthony $111,631,321 A1
I would like to thank each and every llama that played round in and round out, to everyone who has helped us pull off these fantastical scores. You are top notch in my book, and piss on anyone that has anything different to say.
Li, You are a great player and a great friend, a bit whiney at times but otherwise beyond a standup guy.
Oh, and just to clear it up, every time something sneaky went down with llamas that was me, pmsl.
Llamas FTW.
shadow
20th September 2009, 08:29 AM
I thought we were still discussing it :P
No but seriously, whenever you decide to bring llamas back, for a one of round or not I'll be there in a heartbeat.
For now I shall hinder anouther cartels efforts with my presence. I'll post my first round Llama score later.
Llamas FTW
JustShaky
20th September 2009, 08:46 AM
I didn't realize how long it had been until I checked the history of my msn. I was rescued from the abyss of nameless cartels and joined the Llama family back in September 08 and I've been here every since!
And whenever you decide to bring them back, I'm but an im away.
shmokethedope
20th September 2009, 08:55 AM
sad to see such a good cart go, got alot of respect for someone that spams gt trains noobs and orgnaises the cart well to win medals. glad to of been in your cart a few times, heres one of my scores from llamas (my A pb too)
shmokethedope $137,174,383 Ninja Llamas
hit me up if in the future if your going to come back
EviLWaYz
20th September 2009, 10:26 AM
cannot find my score but im 100% sure that i was in llamas in A4 their 1st round! :yay:
got my 2 A games P.B from llamas both times could of gotten overall 1st time i was like 1.38 mil off but owell shit happens
i was part of "the TCA team" and i was the 1 that was pulled :( but would of came top of cart and overall (again :|) if llamas wasnt hit so damn hard like liam said! :haha:
Llamas have been a great cart to play in round after round liam moans abit much some times but hey who doesnt :P
i think ive played at least 8 rounds in A games but only 2 or 3 in B :sad:
and liam you know me when llamas do come back for a round or something im down as allways :)
ruffnready
20th September 2009, 10:53 AM
Liam m8 sorry to hear the news it`s been great to play junkies with llamas,had fun and your great cartel leader m8,always just a text away :thumbs: you know i`ll be back if you decide on any reunions(im used to those llf) catch you round m8 k,,ruff
the time is now $113,870,555 -Ninja Llamas- A1 round 14 junkies
Big Hugs 4 Connie x -Ninja Llamas- $112,091,481 A1 round 22 junkies
dopewars junkie Ninja Llamas $118,140,956 A1 round 25 junkies
no scores to brag about but only scores i could find,hard to remember names sometimes, but glad to be part of the medals that llamas took in A games,sometimes junkie strats are nightmare,you just gotta be lucky ;)
Diezel
20th September 2009, 11:01 AM
Llamas thanks for the junkies :D
Liam ;)
comander john
20th September 2009, 11:08 AM
sorry to see the llamas go. ive been here for all the a games and most of the b games.
heres my llama history
A games
10- 144 john doesnt $103,252,585 Ninja Llamas
11- 14 john doesnt $109,669,701 NINJA LLAMAS ELITE
12- 21 john doesnt $115,568,118 Ninja Lamas
13- 62 john doesnt $116,075,860 *Ninja Llamas*
14- 131 john doesnt $102,842,327 -Ninja Llamas-
15- 7 john doesnt $133,886,364 +Ninja Llamas+
16- 6 Circle the Wagons $107,026,590 +Ninja Llamas+
17- 193 john doesnt $116,774,463 † Ninjα Llαmαs †
18- 132 thats Mr. Daniels to you $88,156,593 Ninja Llamas
19- 3 sam adams -Ninja Llamas- $47,584,886
22- A1 3 Lone Wolf -Ninja Llamas- $125,716,338
A2 31 que no ? Ninja Llamas $109,849,163
23- 33 Starbuck -Ninja Llamas- $104,773,009
24- llamas gunning round forgot which one I was
25- 53 peckerwood -Ninja Llamas- $113,038,691
B games
11- 236 john doesnt $87,560,666 NINJA LLAMAS FINEST
12- 18 john doesnt $171,098,753 Ninja Llamas
13- 37 john doesnt $174,105,913 Ninja Llamas
14- 440 john doesnt $31,765,489 NINJA LLAMAS
15 – ? unknown one of the tca’s
16- 1 diminished mind $180,538,303 -Ninja Llamas- my first overall score
17- 197 Call me Scott $102,037,312 Brotherhood of Excellence
21- B2- 133 iwonttell Dopeboyz Inc. $107,342,261 – (I believe this is me, my last llama b-game)
and i will return if/when the llamas are called back
don't do it
20th September 2009, 11:38 AM
I was a fairly new Llama but still sad to see the end. Best run cart that I have been in and really helped me see how carts should be organized.
I actually got the invite to Llamas based on some good gunning in B2 and likely inflicted some damage on their carts a few rounds :P
So around May I started playing every A1 and some B2 rounds with Llamas. Good times.
Flipchic
20th September 2009, 12:04 PM
:sad:
I played with Llamas. It was always fun with you guys. I don't have scores to post on here that are worth bragging about. I don't think i've contributed anything to the team really. but i always get invited round after round (i think just to fill in empty slots lol). I love liam <3 (although it pisses me off whenever he kicks out of the cart without telling me, coz my score sucked! :P and you know that liam!), he's like my talent manager, he updates me with stuff promptly, gives tips and advices. I will miss the playing with you guys.
:hugs:
*B.I.G - J.O.E*
20th September 2009, 01:29 PM
My first round with llamas was Round 11 and was actually my second round :D
120 B.I.G-J.O.E $96,158,954 NINJA LLAMAS ELITE
I have alot to thank Llamas and Liam for,
If it wasn't for Liam i wouldn't of picked up Dw as quick as i would of had no-one to answer my ExTreAmE NOOB questions,Will be a shame for Ninja Llamas to go!
Ninja Llamas are/were/will on return by my A1 home :)
11 worth rounds and 1 gunning a1 rounds :| only wasn't in ninja llamas when they left for a bit! (not forgetting the a2 round, and my introduction to b games was with llamas)
Been good playing with the team :P and heres my best score's:
2 Bubbles -Ninja Llamas- $127,311,945 - Machiens (even though i did sneak on them :$ )
and
8 * B.I.G - J.O.E * $120,809,783 -Ninja Llamas - Junkies :jaijai:
e11even
20th September 2009, 07:24 PM
Farewell Llamas... sad to see you go, but you're leaving with an impressive record. You guys were good competition when i played against you, and i found a good fun, well organised team when i played with you.
Congrats Liam and Llamas on everything you have achieved... if you find you need an average spot-filler when you eventually return, i might be able to be persuaded. ;)
zwixxx
20th September 2009, 08:26 PM
i only gave you guys a couple rounds...but it was fun...and i can seriously say that liam has got to be one of the best to work with :D...sad to see llamas go. can't wait for a hopeful return
DOGG3R187
21st September 2009, 04:38 AM
1st round was prob around july 08 i think when i was told to start the gunning crew or takeover the job (alpaca assassins) Good times hey liam lol , few rounds later joined the worthing cart and didnt look back,sad to see the end but hope 1 day will make the return, well done everyone and was a privilage to be part of such a great crew :dave:
*maddie*
21st September 2009, 04:46 AM
ok i started with the llamas in july 08, after liam messaged me to join from a3 this was my 1st round with the llamas i think, 62 CRACKWHORE $111,156,975 Ninja Lamas its alot of scores to go through though lol, i have played with them ever since, i think i missed maybe a couple of rounds due to personal circumstances, but have always enjoyed my games and had a good chuckle with all....
sorry to see the llamas go :sad: but has been great fun good luck everyone... :jaijai:
6m$SexGod
21st September 2009, 07:54 AM
Well I remember when you messaged me to help you in A1 and I laughed at you saying you would never win gold, how small and stupid do I feel now! :haha:
Was a pleasure to run with you in a few rounds, and was also fun to ruin you in a few rounds also! :whistle:
1st round with Llamas was
R12: 1 Get Your Rat Out Love $137,339,874 Ninja Lamas A1
Was a good fun round, think i moved in from another cart, can't really remember though!
Will be missed
Diezel
21st September 2009, 08:03 AM
Well I remember when you messaged me to help you in A1 and I laughed at you saying you would never win gold, how small and stupid do I feel now! :haha:
Was a pleasure to run with you in a few rounds, and was also fun to ruin you in a few rounds also! :whistle:
1st round with Llamas was
R12: 1 Get Your Rat Out Love $137,339,874 Ninja Lamas A1
Was a good fun round, think i moved in from another cart, can't really remember though!
Will be missed
So will your pulling :haha:
ZERAT
21st September 2009, 08:47 AM
Well I remember when you messaged me to help you in A1 and I laughed at you saying you would never win gold, how small and stupid do I feel now! :haha:
Was a pleasure to run with you in a few rounds, and was also fun to ruin you in a few rounds also! :whistle:
1st round with Llamas was
R12: 1 Get Your Rat Out Love $137,339,874 Ninja Lamas A1
Was a good fun round, think i moved in from another cart, can't really remember though!
Will be missed
lol i think i remember that lmao
but to be fair it was only the start of my 2nd round in DWs when i asked you lol
ZERAT
21st September 2009, 09:29 AM
POST FOR JESSE:
"fare thee well to llamas, was the greatest A game cartel i've played with (not counting OSM, but thems was old times)
2 PB machine scores in A and B respectively
1 J Wozzle Rubba Ducky Gangsta $152,996,718 +Ninja Llamas+ - A1 Round 15
12 You're Fucked Now $188,886,414 Ninja Llamas - B1 Round 13"
shadow
21st September 2009, 10:08 AM
A little bit of my Llamas History, bits missing but meh
Game A Round 25 (Aug 2009)
9 Of Mice And Men Ninja Llamas $123,424,950
Game A Round 24 (July 2009)
We Gunned
Game A Round 23 (June 2009)
28 TheNeverEndingStory Disciples of doom $105,194,780 - I wasn't around at reset to make final cartel or spend last tokens but was def in Llamas
Game A Round 22 (May 2009)
Tryed junkie gunning and finished around $70mil so didn't finish in llamas final cart, needless to say I havn't tryed it since.
Scores Game A Round 21
We took a round off if I remember correctly and alowed LOD to take gold :P
Game A Round 20 (March 2009)
We must have missed this round too.
I didn't post any of my scores before this point but I was definatly playing, the only cartels I played in A games at this time were Llamas and Cobras.
Game B Round 24 (Aug 2009)
102 Inactivated Anonymous Player HCTP $98,438,345 - Pumped out cheap creds all round with no intention of making final cartel.
Game B Round 23 (ended Aug 14th)
5 MerryChristmasandHaveAHappyNewYear Ninja Llamas $153,271,657
Game B Round 22 &22
No Llamas?
I can't be bothered searching for any more scores lol maybe some other time (probably not)
herojuana
21st September 2009, 12:30 PM
i had some fun times with llamas
never got any memorable scores (im hoping Liam will prove me wrong on this... i can't remember half the games i play :S )
James T
21st September 2009, 05:23 PM
I started with Llamas round 22
58 \\Here till the end// -Ninja Llamas- $113,684,927 A1
This is when Liam poached me from B games & got me into playing A games! I got to give a big thank you to Liam for that because i love them now.
I dont think that there will ever be a leader as good as you on here Liam :bighug:
Its been a pleasure & im sure the Llamas will be back in the future.
:bye:
newportbadboy
21st September 2009, 05:57 PM
Good cartel..I always enjoyed playing with liam..He can be a whiny bitch..few times i admit i only joined cuz the msn abuse wouldnt stop..haha JK
I liked the fact i ended up on his final cartel in b2 where he ended up on my final cartel in B1 as HT and we both managed a medal..one of us screwing each other would do the magic..So i have a special bond with the ginger james bond :D
hope to see llamas back in the near future ;)
PS: i fucked with liam once in b games long time ago before i really knew him..so i seek for forgiveness :)
ZERAT
21st September 2009, 08:21 PM
I started with Llamas round 22
58 \\Here till the end// -Ninja Llamas- $113,684,927 A1
This is when Liam poached me from B games & got me into playing A games! I got to give a big thank you to Liam for that because i love them now.
I dont think that there will ever be a leader as good as you on here Liam :bighug:
Its been a pleasure & im sure the Llamas will be back in the future.
:bye:
im all choked up here lol
thanks :P
and thanks to all the people saying their fond farewells.
been a great ride and im glad you enjoyed it and im happy that we've got the recognition we deserve :)
Stop
21st September 2009, 08:33 PM
Will miss the llamas, however i find it hard that they will dissapear forever, and will be back when/if they do show up again ;)
As for when i started...can't remember exactly and am too lazy to go through searching through the forums as of this second to find out, but if i don't forget i'll post some of em up later.
oh and liam now that your not running ninja llamas anymore i can open up my cartel ninja monkeys :haha: suck on that :P
Call Me H
22nd September 2009, 02:22 AM
Well, i am not really the Llamas but here is my first and only score to ever made it to the main cartel:
8 Kate Beckinsale Ninja Llamas $133,272,770
Liam, i know you only through the words of JT and Ken...trust me they say only the good things...:thumbs:
soo, wtf with all the :bye: :bye:, i havent even started! :haha:
Good luck and hope you bring them back someday.
ZERAT
22nd September 2009, 08:25 AM
Well, i am not really the Llamas but here is my first and only score to ever made it to the main cartel:
8 Kate Beckinsale Ninja Llamas $133,272,770
Liam, i know you only through the words of JT and Ken...trust me they say only the good things...:thumbs:
soo, wtf with all the :bye: :bye:, i havent even started! :haha:
Good luck and hope you bring them back someday.
haha well played that round.
only one round but i was with you cabbing that cartel all the way ;)
i was "you know nothing"
Essayeffsee
22nd September 2009, 01:40 PM
i think i played about 3 or 4 full proper rounds in A games for llamas(aswell as helpin out with players now n again in the early days...lol)
My best (I think) was :-
9 Peace and Love to All Mankind $141,527,698 Ninja Llamas<<<JUNKIES
December 2008
Seems weird your takin llamas off the menu liam,but i can understand why...
If ever they back gimme a shout for sure..
Peace.
$treet pharmaci$t
22nd September 2009, 02:23 PM
I think I only played one round with llamas. Nothing special score wise but I made the final cart. I always meant to give llamas more rounds it just never seemed to happen. See you back hopefully one day :D
EviLWaYz
22nd September 2009, 03:11 PM
I dont think that there will ever be a leader as good as you on here Liam :bighug:
:puke:
sorry continue
newportbadboy
22nd September 2009, 03:16 PM
:puke:
sorry continue
lets not be jealous bitch:P this isnt about us..this is about liam
i m hoping with llamas retired,liam will finally get laid and stop being a virgin
$treet pharmaci$t
22nd September 2009, 03:40 PM
lets not be jealous bitch:p this isnt about us..this is about liam
i m hoping with llamas retired,liam will finally get laid and stop being a virgin
qft
James T
22nd September 2009, 06:21 PM
lets not be jealous bitch:P this isnt about us..this is about liam
i m hoping with llamas retired,liam will finally get laid and stop being a virgin
Well Said good luck liam
:gift:
Raskil
23rd September 2009, 12:56 AM
I cant remember when I first played for Llamas but Liam found me when I was new on here and helped me become a the half decent worther I am now. Actually I think Llamas is the only cartel I have regularly worthed for seeing im always gunning and the time he forgot to invite me I almost ruined them without knowing :| so for that I apologise. Oh and yeah my A game P.B was with them last round :thumbs:
Kanders
23rd September 2009, 11:26 AM
My story seems to reads like most of the others.
When I was new, fresh of the boat from facebook, Llamas were just establishing themselves in B games then, and he pestered me and pestered me and pestered me and pestered me. In the end he gave up and said I dont want to have sex with you anymore so fancy joining my cartel instead :P
ZERAT
23rd September 2009, 08:41 PM
lets not be jealous bitch:P this isnt about us..this is about liam
i m hoping with llamas retired,liam will finally get laid and stop being a virgin
oh Liam is a pimp my friend...
gettin laid isn't a problem ;)
:az2:
andrius
24th September 2009, 05:39 PM
oh Liam is a pimp my friend...
gettin laid isn't a problem ;)
:az2:
junkies in street corner doesnt count liam:)
Nova
24th September 2009, 06:09 PM
I think its time for me to post something here..
I started playing with Llama's my third round in DW (i think)
Liam turned me from a super noob to just a regular noob :P .. even cabbing a couple carts :S
although my personal scores arent the greatest i will say that my best a rounds came from llama's...
Liam is a great cart leader but a bit of a fag :lol: j/k
:sad: to see such a great cart go but as they say, all good things must come to an end
hit me up when Llama's come back :thumbs:
until then, there will be one more shit gunner in a games
:bye:
PS.. thanks to liam for finishing off all those rounds for me while i was getting drunk :hehe:
Az
24th September 2009, 06:53 PM
yeah i have to echo that, i have lost overalls to suicides in llamas so many times its fucking ridiculous, and I won't call your names for you to gloat, I didn't do it before, I won't do it now. But thanks to liam for every round he played my accounts out, I drink, I smoke, I pop, Thanks for that brother <3 I have a lot of A accts, but liam was always willing to play them out.
ZERAT
24th September 2009, 09:29 PM
both of you are most welcome :)
Raskil
25th September 2009, 03:44 AM
I think im going to use this oppurtunity to retire from DopeWars to. I have achieved absolutely nothing except being a epic DW failure:nana3:
P.S Liam when Llamas come back hassle me and I will come play for you again :haha:
DarkNebula
25th September 2009, 04:34 AM
and to think i was about ready to play a round or two for you guise and you up and quit...
dave
25th September 2009, 05:06 AM
n00b cartel
EviLWaYz
25th September 2009, 12:19 PM
yeah i have to echo that, i have lost overalls to suicides in llamas so many times its fucking ridiculous, and I won't call your names for you to gloat, I didn't do it before, I won't do it now. But thanks to liam for every round he played my accounts out, I drink, I smoke, I pop, Thanks for that brother <3 I have a lot of A accts, but liam was always willing to play them out.
me too liam did you start spending up at like 3am or something :eh:
6m$SexGod
25th September 2009, 01:13 PM
yeah i have to echo that, i have lost overalls to suicides in llamas so many times its fucking ridiculous, and I won't call your names for you to gloat, I didn't do it before, I won't do it now. But thanks to liam for every round he played my accounts out, I drink, I smoke, I pop, Thanks for that brother <3 I have a lot of A accts, but liam was always willing to play them out.
:whistle:
ZERAT
26th September 2009, 09:52 AM
and to think i was about ready to play a round or two for you guise and you up and quit...
:eh:
NawtyAngel
8th October 2009, 09:47 PM
Hey you...sorry to hear the news. Its been nice to play with the Llamas. Not been with you guys as long as the rest but it was fun. Thanks for havin me ard.
Regards
Mystique/Psylocke/NawtyAngel/Ryanty
Brick Shit House
8th October 2009, 10:04 PM
bub bye llamas now i can put my thugs away ;)
Diezel
8th October 2009, 11:32 PM
seriously who gives a fuck :S
Well done,befriend 90% of forum make cart ,win golds you all da bestests
EviLWaYz
8th October 2009, 11:33 PM
seriously who gives a fuck :S
Well done,befriend 90% of forum make cart ,win golds you all da bestests
:haha: it obviously failed for you :whistle:
Brick Shit House
9th October 2009, 02:00 AM
:)
Brick Shit House
9th October 2009, 02:01 AM
seriously who gives a fuck :S
Well done,stab 90% of forum in the back ,win golds you all da bestests
edit to suit you ;)
ZERAT
9th October 2009, 07:06 AM
seriously who gives a fuck :S
Well done,befriend 90% of forum make cart ,win golds you all da bestests
at least 50% of the llamas hadn't even signed up for the forum when we were winning the first couple of golds and some never joined until i sent them a link to do so.
shit i mean llamas is like the only cartel i can think off atm that has been THIS successful from starting as nothing more than a noob spamming GT for cartel memebers.
don't try to belittle what was a great cartel and without question one of the most dominant cartels of V2
swiss miss
9th October 2009, 08:50 AM
at least 50% of the llamas hadn't even signed up for the forum when we were winning the first couple of golds and some never joined until i sent them a link to do so.
shit i mean llamas is like the only cartel i can think off atm that has been THIS successful from starting as nothing more than a noob spamming GT for cartel memebers.
don't try to belittle what was a great cartel and without question one of the most dominant cartels of V2
alan are you actually ever going to read and comprehend this?
cartel comes from nothing, started by a n00b, players recruited from game talk..... and becomes one of the most successful cartels of all time.... i just dont see how you can argue, give it up.
Brick Shit House
9th October 2009, 03:04 PM
at least 50% of the llamas hadn't even signed up for the forum when we were winning the first couple of golds and some never joined until i sent them a link to do so.
shit i mean llamas is like the only cartel i can think off atm that has been THIS successful from starting as nothing more than a noob spamming GT for cartel memebers.
don't try to belittle what was a great cartel and without question one of the most dominant cartels of V2
ZERAT i do agree with you was a god cart nothing against them just razzing you and you know why muwaaaa muwaaaa
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