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Gringo
5th September 2006, 03:44 PM
this is my first ever suggestion and only suggesting it cos it has happened to me!
In b4 this round I spammed for my second cartel and amazingly it was full on the first day! But guess what, it was full by over 10 multis created by someone to fuck up our round! I know who it is but i wont mention names. That same player made so many multis he even had spare ones to " Gun Fuck " me every day in the frist few days! They may have been deleted but by then your game is fucked!

Is there anything that can be done where The same IP is juts not allowed to sign up in the same room period right from the start?

I have no clue on what this would consist of and dont know if its been suggested before, but multi are really pissing me off, they are ruining games for others!

Alf uckem
5th September 2006, 04:31 PM
they are usually quite swift at detecting multies and ip ban is an option that has been used for continous offenders, alot of the time it is new players taht are unaware they should only play one account. I would say hte best and safest way to eliminate multies is recruit in the froum or build up a good relationship with as many loyal people as possible, or if you do mass pm expect to lose a few each round but if you can keep 4-5 players a round you will be bang on track.

Another point I would make when making a new cartel is don t let all the dw 'vets or celebs' or whatever you will call em. Build from scratch for better loyalties rather than someone who say play for reds, daqqers, tlb, or osm because invarioubly they will be booked up and forget or not bother.

Bellows
5th September 2006, 06:10 PM
I'll name names, is it =Nightmare=, or WhiteBoy, or AnnoyingTurd?

Buckledmac
5th September 2006, 06:39 PM
/me loves it when bellows gets to the point :P

Gringo
5th September 2006, 06:57 PM
I'll name names, is it =Nightmare=, or WhiteBoy, or AnnoyingTurd?

lmfao

u hit the spot with one of them mate!!!

Bellows
5th September 2006, 07:35 PM
they're all the same person Gringo ;) ps he's been sending me annoying msg's in b4, but i wouldnt even bother to pass the stupid crap on he's been sending me (y)

[edit] Si, your sig is strangley hypnotic

MG
6th September 2006, 04:58 AM
nightmare = rkiller ;)

Balor
6th September 2006, 04:42 PM
well as IP ban is possible he could use a proxy or even have a Dynamic IP address that changes continually the only other solution then is banning an entire subnet more or less which would knock god knows how many people out of the game with the same subnet Prefix cause their using the same ISP.

as a note I may be incorrect on the subnet thing not 100% but as for proxy and dynamic those are pretty much a guaranteed solution to a ban.

Buckledmac
12th September 2006, 06:29 PM
they're all the same person Gringo ;) ps he's been sending me annoying msg's in b4, but i wouldnt even bother to pass the stupid crap on he's been sending me

[edit] Si, your sig is strangley hypnotic


you stoned again bud ? (y)

the_big_man
12th September 2006, 08:38 PM
I think everypne that has a multi should die, its as simple as that

GENERAL. May Hemm
12th September 2006, 08:49 PM
I think everypne that has a multi should die, its as simple as that

Multiple times. If an ip is found with a multi i think ALL accounts at that address should be booted from that particular round, so if someone runs a multi in B2 then they get bootted from all Bgames they are in

Cushion
13th September 2006, 04:48 AM
i think there should be a scan every week :)

Psychostyle
13th September 2006, 07:26 AM
well cush, you pay my current weekly work salary, and ill gladly do scans every week:)..other than that, your outta luck..(and they dont really need that much scanning, anyway)

MG
13th September 2006, 07:36 AM
*demands Pstyle give up his personal life for the benefit of DW*

Blindj
13th September 2006, 04:55 PM
cushion , i vote you pay the man and give him a 15% raise too

Brother Jack
13th September 2006, 08:39 PM
p style kicked me out of a10 this round and i was not even a multi... so a big FUCK YOU TO THAT COCKSUCKING BITCH!!!!!!! Your a fucking punk Pstyle!!! sit on a 12" spike you prick!!! don't waste your time responding either I don't wanna fucking here it and i will not come back in here to have a look.

-=|[GaNgStA-RePz]|=-
13th September 2006, 09:09 PM
his goneeeeeeee

Alc0
13th September 2006, 09:12 PM
I have had a cartel full of multis but I have never took the piss and didnt spend that many tokens.

*says sorry to admin scanners*

I didnt bother going wrecking peoples games.

Testing out what cartel benifits you get ;)

I will never do it again as I have all the info I need now lolol (y)

Kloaked Spirit
17th September 2006, 01:27 AM
The problem with limiting by IP is that there are places where the IP may look the same (any sort of network system for example) but they'll be two legitimate people. That's why the scans themselves go beyond just a regular IP scan.

bzzt
17th September 2006, 01:46 AM
(and they dont really need that much scanning, anyway)
that all depends how many people are cheating through out dw. i thought i read somewhere that people accidently sign back up in the same room. what happens in a case like that? do you delete both accounts in the same room or just the second one where the player screwed up by accident or multied?

Lucas
17th September 2006, 02:46 AM
this is my first ever suggestion and only suggesting it cos it has happened to me!
In b4 this round I spammed for my second cartel and amazingly it was full on the first day! But guess what, it was full by over 10 multis created by someone to fuck up our round! I know who it is but i wont mention names. That same player made so many multis he even had spare ones to " Gun Fuck " me every day in the frist few days! They may have been deleted but by then your game is fucked!

Is there anything that can be done where The same IP is juts not allowed to sign up in the same room period right from the start?

I have no clue on what this would consist of and dont know if its been suggested before, but multi are really pissing me off, they are ruining games for others!




stop fucking spaming. if you dont have enough mates to fill a cartel. then dont make one.

0siris
17th September 2006, 11:39 AM
http://forum.oddthought.com/showthread.php?t=5402

lmao...nice cover up

Pot4life
17th September 2006, 09:54 PM
no its isnt

Siphter
18th September 2006, 10:01 AM
I'll name names, is it =Nightmare=, or WhiteBoy, or AnnoyingTurd?

=Nightmare= yes I do agree with him beign he one... He is the leader of a cartel named "Kings"... Now please excus emy language. But that fuckers cousin Luchini, many people see him on the most textbooks list every round he is in, he had a problem with me so he framed me to nightmare. Then that stupid bastard tried gunning me but failed. On top of that he sab'd my factories every chance he had. He knows how to make sure his multi's dont get detected cause he had about 5 in the "Kings" cartel. Sorry just had to put my 2 cents in.

Nazkyn
18th September 2006, 12:18 PM
Couldn't all proxies be listed in a database and any IP's added to that list automatically perma banned??

I bet we have loads of users here wlling to help build a complete proxy list (y)

You could also add a new rule that makes it against the rules to sign up with a proxy so they don't even bother.

tca
18th September 2006, 04:38 PM
i'd be quite willing :)

Nyrico2003
19th September 2006, 08:53 AM
=Nightmare= yes I do agree with him beign he one... He is the leader of a cartel named "Kings"... Now please excus emy language. But that fuckers cousin Luchini, many people see him on the most textbooks list every round he is in, he had a problem with me so he framed me to nightmare. Then that stupid bastard tried gunning me but failed. On top of that he sab'd my factories every chance he had. He knows how to make sure his multi's dont get detected cause he had about 5 in the "Kings" cartel. Sorry just had to put my 2 cents in.



2 fucking cents is all it's worth dum ass nightmare has a beef with gringo right or fucking wrong it's between the two and you was booted from the kings cause you was acting the fool and being an ass so keep it it fucking real cause i would have been glad to let all you muppets talk all the shit you wanted and never said a word but you are the reason why cabnet members hate spamming for new players cause when they get booted they start acting the fool ..........

and a big fuck you too anyone who don't like what i have to say :finger: :finger:

Siphter
19th September 2006, 09:46 AM
2 fucking cents is all it's worth dum ass nightmare has a beef with gringo right or fucking wrong it's between the two and you was booted from the kings cause you was acting the fool and being an ass so keep it it fucking real cause i would have been glad to let all you muppets talk all the shit you wanted and never said a word but you are the reason why cabnet members hate spamming for new players cause when they get booted they start acting the fool ..........

and a big fuck you too anyone who don't like what i have to say :finger: :finger:

Your an idiot MOD have fun loosing every round and not knowing who I am... Luchini is already trying to have gunners killl me so join the club asshole:asshole:

Psychostyle
19th September 2006, 10:02 AM
Couldn't all proxies be listed in a database and any IP's added to that list automatically perma banned??

I bet we have loads of users here wlling to help build a complete proxy list (y)

You could also add a new rule that makes it against the rules to sign up with a proxy so they don't even bother.



the only problem with that concept is that EVERY dialup service uses proxy servers for access..neither rit nor i want to deny legit users :(

Nazkyn
19th September 2006, 10:17 AM
Well building atleast a list of those crappy free web-based proxies and free IP proxies will make a difference.

Or could you block acces to treadon.us, oddthought.com, sepica.com etc... by blocking acces from e.g -

http://777/nph-4.cgi/000000A/http/www.treadon.us/ (just pretend that is a web proxy lol).

Siphter
19th September 2006, 10:59 AM
Well building atleast a list of those crappy free web-based proxies and free IP proxies will make a difference.

Or could you block acces to treadon.us, oddthought.com, sepica.com etc... by blocking acces from e.g -

http://777/nph-4.cgi/000000A/http/www.treadon.us/ (just pretend that is a web proxy lol).

I agree but I do understand what Psy is saying they randomly connect thourgh several IP's... So yea If their was a consistant one being abused maybe then you could IP Ban him. Idk Just a sug.

tca
19th September 2006, 05:13 PM
do they psychostyle? bad idea then, im on dial up :(

Siphter
19th September 2006, 07:36 PM
Would i get banned? I go on at school to check my accounts every now and then, but if someone else from my school made an account on the school computers, would you delete me and him for multis?

Yes because at a school everyone is directed through the same internet IP adress, most likely to save the school money.

do they psychostyle? bad idea then, im on dial up :(

Yea see the legit players like yourself would be in a world of unfairness. Thats prolly the main reason that they havent done the IP ban list yet because no one can stop the power of the Dial-Up LOL

Nazkyn
19th September 2006, 11:14 PM
i'm pretty sure that it would be soooooo rare for dial-up to use the same IP as a KNOWN web proxy or other known proxy, which is what I was taking about. Doesn't dial-up still use a regional/country prefix?? :$

Siphter
20th September 2006, 03:41 AM
i'm pretty sure that it would be soooooo rare for dial-up to use the same IP as a KNOWN web proxy or other known proxy, which is what I was taking about. Doesn't dial-up still use a regional/country prefix?? :$

Sorry im not sure about that, I would take the random guesss that they stilll do but I havent kept up with dial up in like 5 years since I got cable. Sorry

the myth
21st September 2006, 09:18 AM
Would i get banned? I go on at school to check my accounts every now and then, but if someone else from my school made an account on the school computers, would you delete me and him for multis?


you would be ok

scans go fuarther then just ip addys as p-style and rit and jacx have stated sevral times before

if you cheat you will be caught

if not you are good to good

emfs1969
21st September 2006, 12:28 PM
Here is another Multi for someone to check out. Cock sucker in A5. Yeah tell me it is a chance incounter and both in the same cartel. Two digits apart. If it looks like sh@t and smell like sh#t then it must be sh@t.

RoMaN (#244) jumped you and weasled $43,528, 2 junkies and 1 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 3,001 guns and 2,541 vest, but destroyed 2,942 guns and 3,001 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Sep. 20 23:06]

RoMaN (#244) jumped you and weasled $32,753, 6 junkies and 3 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 3,332 guns and 3,094 vest, but destroyed 3,364 guns and 3,938 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Sep. 20 23:05]

RoMaN (#244) jumped you and weasled $49,694, 9 junkies and 5 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 3,547 guns and 2,070 vest, but destroyed 3,864 guns and 3,239 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Sep. 20 23:04]

DiZe HarD (#242) jumped you and weasled $24,306, 8 junkies and 7 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 1,526 guns and 2,336 vest, but destroyed 2,133 guns and 1,716 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Sep. 20 22:06]

DiZe HarD (#242) jumped you and weasled $30,464, 11 junkies and 7 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 1,551 guns and 1,765 vest, but destroyed 2,700 guns and 2,036 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Sep. 20 22:06]

emfs1969
21st September 2006, 12:48 PM
Come on now. I did my homework. In A5 The aint shit cartel. check out these facts. players 236, 237, 238 and then it goes to 242, 243, 244, 245, and then 247. Now this may all be a coincidence or not. I would scan the hell out of that cartel. They came in to the game late and they are all sequenced. Just a little fishy. I would appreciate it if PSY would check them out. Cause I hate cheaters. Come on BOYS keep it real.

Bellows
21st September 2006, 01:03 PM
i think this is a good idea

http://forum.oddthought.com/showthread.php?t=3490