A serious poll

[RobCheadle]

What are you're views on it?

Are you for it/against it?

Is a life for a life acceptable?

When should it be applied?

To whom should it be applied?


discuss/

[Cowboy From Hell]

thats a tough one, can't there be a "depends" option for the poll?

[Aiyana]

What are you're views on it?

Are you for it/against it?

Is a life for a life acceptable?

When should it be applied?

To whom should it be applied?



hope this will answer most of these questions.I did vote yes for it BUT I don't believe it is for every horrible crime that involves murder.I feel most people should rot in jail and think what they have done for the rest of there life.

I feel it should be for serial killers or serial rapest who kill.Another words I feel that if a person who commits the crimes more than once in most cases will never fully understand what they did is wrong.So then why should our tax dollars pay for them to live.ok lets put it this way ...the planes that went into the world trade center.The poeple invalved killed thousands of people...do u think they should live or rot in jail for the rest of there life.I say nuke them.You can have them in jail for the rest of there life and they are still going to feel they did it for some good reason.I would not want my tax dollars pays for people who feel they did it for some good reason in there sick little minds.
What if in a town u lived in there was some sico going around rapping and then killing.Maybe you had lost a family member because of it.Do u really think sitting in jail for the rest of his life will work...NO...let him in death row for a couple of years so he can think everday on how sooon he will be gone.DEAD then u don't have to pay for him sitting there.

I have alot more to say but it is long enough.I think u got my point.


AND in my make believe world we would have death row for ADULTS that touch young kids under the age of 10 or 11.

[Taste of Britain]

pedofillas (crnt spell) must die :@

[Grendel]

For.

Particularly for paedophiles, and for child murderers (Like Huntley or Hindley.) Also for serial rapists. Not to forget multiple murderers... Of course, the death penalty would only be applied in cases with overwhelming DNA evidence.

And, yes, I would be willing to administer it myself.

[Aeon]

What are you're views on it?

Are you for it/against it?

Is a life for a life acceptable?

When should it be applied?

To whom should it be applied?


discuss/


we have this discussion quite a bit....

My views on the death penalty are this...

Death is the easy way out....life on life sentances in a maximun security with tons of violent criminals is far more cruel...

Then you get into dollars and cents...
" It would cost us more to keep him in prision than to just kill him..why waist that money on someone we can just off?"
....MY answer for that is (according) to the crime committed..(.lets assume it's murder of a young teenage girl)
he/she has taken away a life that will never be returned...slowly he continues to tourture families of the slain simply by the sheer loss of thier loved one....And with all the suffering everyone experiences surrounding this death...this dude gets a last request and then gets to die fairly peacefully...Pathetic punishment to me....

A life for a life not acceptable at all....and it all depends on the surrounding circumstances...was the death accidental, was it mercy...was it defencive....
i suppose if it was out and out murder then cut off one of the hands and send him to maximun security prision....
(but choose a different punishment is not the topic here)
Also why not let the family of the slain decide what happens (most likely they will choose death)
i would like to say life for life is fair.....But i think life torture for life is far better.


application is sorta a mute point for me to answer...


to whom should it be applied....?

depends on the crime....

a base would be

child molesters
murders
rapists


it's just my opinion, it means shit but there it is.:|

[Aiyana]

pedofillas (crnt spell) must die :@


thanks luv:P

[Taste of Britain]

:ice:


nuff said eh lol

[Aeon]

seriously that's your answer pedophiles (sp..lol) must die...

pedophiles must lose theior cocks then be stuck in a maximum security prision with tons of other bad ass criminals.

death is easy way out.

[Taste of Britain]

seriously that's your answer pedophiles (sp..lol) must die...

pedophiles must lose theior cocks then be stuck in a maximum security prision with tons of other bad ass criminals.

death is easy way out.


i stand corrected, they should be beaten everyday for the rest of there miserable lives, bray the fuckers :)

[DnD]

i think the death penalty is wastefull. these criminals should be put to work! nothing gets the economy going like a little slave labour

[Calienta]

I don't know the numbers, but I do know that a significant amount of people have been found to be innocent yeeeeeeeears after having been sentenced to prison in a state where there was no death penalty, and had there been, they surely would have been sentenced to death, or years after they had already been killed.

So for that fact I'm not willing to save myself a load of money by killing somebody, when it's happened before and it for sure will happen again that they may be innocent.

Imagine somebody maintains their innocence and the jury sentences them to death and they die and then a month after their death new evidence comes to light and proves their innocence? Yeah. I don't think we should risk it. I also don't think that the death penalty is a preventative measure aganst capital crimes. Isn't it Texas that still has the death penalty, and they have an extremely high crime rate?


Also Aeon... I completely agree. Life in prison is a worse punishment than killing somebody. And if they're found to be innocent, you just take them out of prison :) So until we can bring people back from the dead....

[Nickything]

Thanks cali... I was trying to post the same thing .. you did it more eloquently than anything I was coming up with. I know we now have DNA evidence but with that comes all sorts of other possibilities, outlandish ones maybe but contamination in labs has been shown time and time again in sports dope testing and the possibility for error isn't beyond logical thought.

I'm also not sure that taking the perpetrators life solves anything other than allowing for a culture of revenge. I agree that in many cases that there are people who are beyond redemption or reform but I don't necessarily think that state sponsored murder is a proven deterrant or a solution.

[Psychostyle]

I like d&d's idea, but im for a month long session of sodomizing rapists , pedolfiles and murderers with broomsticks and the like, random beatings, perhaps a flaying, eyball removal, whatever..then at the end of the month just kill em..the family will have closer, the guilty will have been punished, and we can save some money, too


option # 2: force them to join the armed services and ship em to iraq or afganistan..some will defect, but those ones we can just shoot as enemy combatants

[for20gurl]

i really think all peadofiles should be turned over to the childrens families for punishment. they would do far better in finding a just punishment than any court of law.

as far as the death penalty, I think there need to be alot of checks and balances because as you said alot of ppl have been convicted only to be found innocent later. however some ppl, need to be put to death simply becuase of the sheer number of their victims. If serial killer X kills 25 ppl, is caught and convicted of even only 10, isnt that enough to say "you dont deserve to live and breath my air?"

but cam...good idea on the labor. I have noticed the interstates are littered with trash and other menial jobs could be done by them.

so i only condone the death penalty in the most severest circumstances. Obviously if you are stupid enough to kill someone and get it caught on tape, or they have proof you have killed over and over, then there is no need for you here on this earth.

[Jimmy James]

I don't think there should be a death ppenalty. there's been an alarming number of people executed who were later found to be innocent. as for the money issue, the appeal process is a long and costly one, and most people sentenced to death spend 10 or more years appealing their sentence, which often ends up being very expensive for the state. most prisons in the US have inmate work programs, where they work off their debt to society, and a person on death row is segregated from the general population, and unable to participate in these programs.

as for paedophiles, I think it's highly possible for an accused paedophile to be found guilty when he's really not, so I don't think they should be killed. and for the serial paedophile and rapists an whatnot, tje truely dispicable amd evil people, just put them in gen pop, and the other prisoners will issue justice in a very inhumane fashion. thus saving the state, thousands of dollars.

[Richard Cranium]

What are you're views on it?

Are you for it/against it?

Is a life for a life acceptable?

When should it be applied?

To whom should it be applied?


discuss/


I like how texas does it... if they have x amount of "reliable" witness's to the crime then you go in the express lane.
I think with the advent of dna technology, it may be an effective deterent to crime, it would, however, work better if they person didnt sit on death row for 50yrs b4 they get put down

[RobCheadle]

I like d&d's idea, but im for a month long session of sodomizing rapists , pedolfiles and murderers with broomsticks and the like, random beatings, perhaps a flaying, eyball removal, whatever..then at the end of the month just kill em..the family will have closer, the guilty will have been punished, and we can save some money, too


option # 2: force them to join the armed services and ship em to iraq or afganistan..some will defect, but those ones we can just shoot as enemy combatants

I like these ideas!

______
Some good points raised in this thread. Although I voted against the death penalty, I must say that I do think certain people should be killed for the crimes they commit, paedophiles fall into that category.

One of the most vaild arguments against the death penalty I've seen so far is 'what if they have been convicted in error'

I'm trying to remember what the name of the last person in England to be executed was, think it was Ruth somebody.. from memory it was later proven that she was innocent! Kinda backs up the argumnents against the death penalty.

[Nickything]

Ruth Ellis was the last person to be hanged in Britain. She wasn't innocent but there is a strong case to suggest she should have been convicted of manslaughter rather than murder http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/542186.stm

There is also the Derek Bentley case where he was hanged despite having a mental age of 11 and not actually being the person that committed the murder. His accomplice was the murderer but was under the age of 18 so could not be executed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Bentley

[RobCheadle]

Ruth Ellis was the last person to be hanged in Britain. She wasn't innocent but there is a strong case to suggest she should have been convicted of manslaughter rather than murder http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/542186.stm

There is also the Derek Bentley case where he was hanged despite having a mental age of 11 and not actually being the person that committed the murder. His accomplice was the murderer but was under the age of 18 so could not be executed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Bentley

2 good reasons to vote against the death penalty right there..

[Grendel]

2 good reasons to vote against the death penalty right there..

A couple of reasons to vote for it... Purely in the interest of balance, honest!

Ian Huntley, Myra Hindley, Ian Brady, Peter Sutcliffe, Donald Neilson

[Lucas]

An eye for an eye. and yes pedophiles must die!

[veinot]

to remove the need for a death penalty, just make it so that all the mentaly disturbed, including pedofiles, cannot reproduce, and their genes are out of the pool

[YetAnotherKitten]

to remove the need for a death penalty, just make it so that all the mentaly disturbed, including pedofiles, cannot reproduce, and their genes are out of the pool


So you think this behavior is purely genetic??

I seriously doubt that.

Anyhow, I voted against. As a few people know I feel that more violence does not solve the problem of violence.

I am personally quite fearful, don't get me wrong. I don't think we should let serial murderers and rapists run around.

Whats funny is I feel like prison isnt the answer either... sit in a jail cell and think about it?? Uhh no. These guys in particular OBVIOUSLY shouldn't be left to their own devices. Instead promote and revive programs in which the inmates are forced to be active at least 12 hours a day--and I don't mean just jogging I mean hard labor- highly monitored hard labor-we see this all the time in movies... why is it not present in modern times? As far as I know an inmate is lucky to get a job (so I'm told by my ex-con co-worker) nowadays...

What we need is for prisoners to have zero cost. So, instead of paying them for their labor, use the money to pay for food and other expenses. We may also need a checks and balances system within the prison to ensure that no one person tries to take advantage fo financial gain.

IDK thats just my two cents. Also of course start with prevention in the home. Push family education in schools...more money for education..push volunteering for students and adults in more areas with tax rightoffs for volunteering time...

yea im just babbling about my fantasy world ahaha...

[Davecat]

I'm for the death penalty where it is 100% certain the accused is guilty.

However if you could force prisoners to 'earn their keep' whilst in jail, then i would be all for keeping them there until they expire.

I however am NOT with having to pay to keep them for the rest of their miserable lives.

Or put them in a cell - no water, food, light etc... and let em rot.

[Mark]

no it shouldent be done. If one person dies on deathrow and is innocent that is reason enough never to allow this practice. Lets just say there is a reason why effectivly all civilezed countries either dont have the death penalty or it is abounded in practice

[Jimmy James]

What we need is for prisoners to have zero cost. So, instead of paying them for their labor, use the money to pay for food and other expenses. We may also need a checks and balances system within the prison to ensure that no one person tries to take advantage fo financial gain.

prisoners only make a few cents. or if they're lucky, a few bucks per work day. but for the most part, the work is for the betterment of the prison itself, like doing the prison laundry, or cooking the meals.

I know where i live, the county jail has a work crew, they go around and do lawn care on the county buildings, or pick up trash on the road, or even painting and general maintainance of county facilities.

so while they may not be making money to pay for their time in jail, they're in essence saving the state, or county money, by doing things they would otherwise have to pay for. and in return, the prisoners get to spend time outside, and smoke cigarettes (which you can't do inside the jail), and they're paid a 60 cents a day, with which they can buy things from the prison commissary, which charges inflated prices because they too need to make money. so the prison pays a prisoner 1% of what it would have to pay to hire a custodian, then they tack on a 100% profit margin on all things that prisoner buys.

[tca]

For, purely because some criminals don't deserve to live, though fuck keeping them on death row for so long if they are 100% guilty, take them out back and put a bullet in them.

As for the argument of innocent people being put to death by accident, shit happens, i'd rather 99 guilty people die and 1 innocent person die, then have those 99 people alive. It's not really a justifiable reason to spare 100's of guilty people for the sake of one person.

As for why im against it, well im not. If you have problems with my views, look at this way, Earth is getting awful crowded, few hundred people a dead doesn't really mean shit in the scheme of things.

[kurtis469]

if u intentionaly kill someone..premeditated murder no questions u should die.....if u willingly take someones life your life should be taken in exchange....u do not deserve to live

[St.Michael]

I personally think its more of a punishment to be locked away for the rest of your life, and not just general population, I'm talking solitary confinement. I think I heard somewhere too that putting someone on death row is more expensive than life in prison (At least in america). Because usually those on death row are on it for awhile because of constant appeals and that all adds up. Now if you limited appeals it would be more effective but that will also increase the chances that you kill someone innocent, which happens enough as it is.

Idk i'm undecided.

[DnD]

I personally think its more of a punishment to be locked away for the rest of your life, and not just general population, I'm talking solitary confinement. I think I heard somewhere too that putting someone on death row is more expensive than life in prison (At least in america). Because usually those on death row are on it for awhile because of constant appeals and that all adds up. Now if you limited appeals it would be more effective but that will also increase the chances that you kill someone innocent, which happens enough as it is.

Idk i'm undecided.

ive heard that before too, thats why i think they ought to be put to work, then maybe they can atleast start paying for the inconveniance they have caused to the taxpayers.

[St.Michael]

ive heard that before too, thats why i think they ought to be put to work, then maybe they can atleast start paying for the inconveniance they have caused to the taxpayers.

Yea thats a good idea, I think we should make them do the crappy jobs that nobody wants to do in this coutry, not even the mexicans(oh snap).

[Napoleoniv]

I voted that I am for the death penalty. Firstly, I think it's an excellent sledgehammer for prosecutors to wield against those charged with murder and rape (particualry child rape). It helps speed the legal process up, while still ensuring that plea deals with these sorts are sufficently harsh. Basically, it goes like this; with the death penalty in effect, I can charge a man with 1st degree murder, which carries the death penalty, then offer to pull the death penalty off the table, leaving sentencing in the range of 25-life, or possibly, life without parole. Now without the death penalty, what can I offer to make this case move along more quickly and still ensure the person I'm prosecuting still gets a proper pounishment for their crimes? I'll have to lower the charge or at least pull Life w/o parole off the table, meaning this person could still get out. The simple threat of execution, coupled with the survival instinct, will often times get us what we want out of the justice system.
Aside from that, I also belive that the death penalty is an appropriate punishment for the more heinous crimes. Serial murder, serial rape, and any sexual act by an adult with a person under 15 as meriting the death penalty. We, as a society, just can't risk these people ever getting out for any reason. Lastly, we need to send a message; that these acts will under no circumstances be tolerated or forgiven, that the peoplke who perform them will recieve no mercyand that we will kill you if you do these. Not put you in a prison and spend millions of dollars feeding you, clothing you, attending to your medical and psychological needs and buying you lawyers to handle appeals where you twist the law and the English language beyond any recognizable form. No, we will kill you, pure and simple (personally, I support the guillotine a method of execution; its quick, human, cheap, and effecient, but still manages to scare people).

[SweetHoney]

I agree 100% with everything said by Napoleoniv. As a matter of fact there are several very good points made in this thread.

However, I believe the death penalty should be expanded to include the right for the victim and/or their families to determine the type of punishment administered if they so choose. I think public hangings/beheadings would seriously reduce the amount of crimes committed in these more heinous catagories. If nothing else, we would be more certain that the criminal had intent if you could prove his guilt.

Another thought in reference to cutting down on costs...if we aren't going to sentence them to death we could at leastput them on an island where they can kill and rape each other at will. Make them firgure out for themselves how they will survive. Why bother paying anyone to do anything for them. They aren't worth the time it takes to prosecute them much less any more time and money spent assisting them in surviving the experience.

[Mark]

Sweethonny you seriously want to go back to public beheadings thats sickning you do realise it was stopped for a reason it often takes quite a few whacks before the head actually comes back what are you going to want to do next public burnings?

[Jimmy James]

Another thought in reference to cutting down on costs...if we aren't going to sentence them to death we could at leastput them on an island where they can kill and rape each other at will. Make them firgure out for themselves how they will survive. Why bother paying anyone to do anything for them. They aren't worth the time it takes to prosecute them much less any more time and money spent assisting them in surviving the experience.



they tried that already, it's called Australia

[St.Michael]

they tried that already, it's called Australia


Yea I forgot about that.

[Pot4life]

it all depends on .........

[Tonglong43]

they tried that already, it's called AustraliaYea and we abolished the Death penalty years ago.Im against the death penalty because arnt we trying to say killing is wrong?

[Napoleoniv]

Yea and we abolished the Death penalty years ago.Im against the death penalty because arnt we trying to say killing is wrong?


Actually, we're trying to say that killing by individuals for their own reasons is wrong. It may seem a bit hypocritcal to say that a person can't execute a person, but the state can, but it does make logical sense. For example, we say that hunting down the person who is suspected of killing your kid is wrong because we don't know they're guilty until it's proven in court, not because killing in and of itself is wrong. This is the reason the state, rather than individuals performs executions; if people could kill for vengence, we'd have a breakdown of law. The state killing a convicted murderer is leagues away from me as a person doing the same thing because the legal process kills after long debate and consideration of all evidence (a trial) has determined that a. the person did what we think he did and b. that execution is the only apropriate punishment for the crime. As a single person, I am incapable of performing an entire trial in my head, without bias (No judges or juries live inside my skull, as far as I am aware). Therefore, I as an individual have no right to kill, except in self-defense against lethal force. That is what we're trying to say.

[Vassili_Zaitsev]

wow i hope someone has an answer to this one becuase everytime i hearsomeone say pedophiles should be killed this always comes to mind: what about child on child molestation? if a kid is ten but fucks a 5 year old IT IS MOLETATION the law states that sex with anyone 2 or more years younger than yourself it is considered either molestation or rape depending on the circumstances should we kil 10 year olds? somepeople will surely say that obviously it must have been childhood curioity or whatnot but i know many kids that would know full well what they are doing..what about a higher age how about a 16 year old and a 10 year old? huh at what point does it become not ok?

[St.Michael]

wow i hope someone has an answer to this one becuase everytime i hearsomeone say pedophiles should be killed this always comes to mind: what about child on child molestation? if a kid is ten but fucks a 5 year old IT IS MOLETATION the law states that sex with anyone 2 or more years younger than yourself it is considered either molestation or rape depending on the circumstances should we kil 10 year olds? somepeople will surely say that obviously it must have been childhood curioity or whatnot but i know many kids that would know full well what they are doing..what about a higher age how about a 16 year old and a 10 year old? huh at what point does it become not ok?

Thats not the point.

Even if a 10 year old raped a 6 year old he wouldn't be sentenced to death. He would be sentenced to psychiatric treatment and a battery of tests to decide whats wrong with him and then they might put him in a boys home. To my knowledge not many sexual assaults are stamped with the death penalty...correct me if i'm wrong? I agree with a previous post when they said the death penalty is used as a bargaining tool to persuade such offenders to give up information or accomplices and then poof you drop it down to life in prison without parole.

[Jimmy James]

Thats not the point.

Even if a 10 year old raped a 6 year old he wouldn't be sentenced to death. He would be sentenced to psychiatric treatment and a battery of tests to decide whats wrong with him and then they might put him in a boys home. To my knowledge not many sexual assaults are stamped with the death penalty...correct me if i'm wrong? I agree with a previous post when they said the death penalty is used as a bargaining tool to persuade such offenders to give up information or accomplices and then poof you drop it down to life in prison without parole.

in the US there's currently only 1 person on death row for anything other then murder, or conspiracy to commit murder. some guy in louisiana who raped his 8 year old daughter. louisiana is the only state that issues capital punishment to child molestors

[Kat]

8o| I just spent 15 mintues replying to this and then it wouldn't let me post. Basically I think the death penalty is wrong and should be revoked world wide. I think our prison system is stupid and unproductive and wrong and should be used a lot more sparingly and more productively and hopefully eventually phased out. I think people need to stop judging each other and learn to love; as several key religious figures have pointed out.

[St.Michael]

8o| I just spent 15 mintues replying to this and then it wouldn't let me post. Basically I think the death penalty is wrong and should be revoked world wide. I think our prison system is stupid and unproductive and wrong and should be used a lot more sparingly and more productively and hopefully eventually phased out. I think people need to stop judging each other and learn to love; as several key religious figures have pointed out.

So your for anarchy? That or your extremely ignorant of the world today.


You can't just "phase out" the prison system AND get rid of the death penalty, what would you use to punish people who commit crimes?

[not_a_hpa]

http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/27/tough.sheriff/

Joe Arpaio isn't a very good member of the human race, but I do like his ideas for a prison. Its low cost and self sufficient. They broke the law, they don't need the comforts of air conditioning, comfortable beds, and they definitely don't need to have physical contact with members of the outside.

Death row is a joke. Serial killers, serial rapist, and serial child predators are the only thing that need to be on death row. To be convicted of multiple crimes the evidence has to be overwhelming, they aren't convicted on circumstantial evidence. If a person is convicted of such crimes why should the tax payers have to support them. They are a danger to the people around them. Serial=they WILL do it again, and again.

[Jimmy James]

http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/27/tough.sheriff/

Joe Arpaio isn't a very good member of the human race, but I do like his ideas for a prison. Its low cost and self sufficient. They broke the law, they don't need the comforts of air conditioning, comfortable beds, and they definitely don't need to have physical contact with members of the outside.

Death row is a joke. Serial killers, serial rapist, and serial child predators are the only thing that need to be on death row. To be convicted of multiple crimes the evidence has to be overwhelming, they aren't convicted on circumstantial evidence. If a person is convicted of such crimes why should the tax payers have to support them. They are a danger to the people around them. Serial=they WILL do it again, and again.

what good is saving a million dollars on lunch meat if you're getting slapped with 8 million dollar lawsuits?

[Mark]

The other problem is that with the legal system it makes mistakes there are countless people who have being killed when they did nothing wrong. what would you do if that was you would you still say capital puishment works and is a great thing. It is barbaric and any country that continues to do it i have grave concerns for.

[not_a_hpa]

The other problem is that with the legal system it makes mistakes there are countless people who have being killed when they did nothing wrong. what would you do if that was you would you still say capital puishment works and is a great thing. It is barbaric and any country that continues to do it i have grave concerns for.

your talking about a time before technology came into play. and they are coming up with new ways to prove guilt all the time.

what good is saving a million dollars on lunch meat if you're getting slapped with 8 million dollar lawsuits?

i didn't say he was a good man, i just said that i like his idea of a prison. if it was up to the human rights activists all of the prisoners would be shacked up at the hilton.

[St.Michael]

I think they should abolish the death penalty, and those who are convicted of crimes should go to prison. Now, those in prison should just sit around all day and enjoy a roof over their heads and 3 meals a day. I think we should be using prison inmates to clean up highways and other public service projects, under strict guard of course. Make them earn the money it takes to clothe, feed, and put a roof over their heads.

[Iced]

ok i read the whole thread and want to make a few points.
even jesus judged the money lenders and holy war is universal in most all religions. If we dont govern ourselves who will? give unto ceaser..secondly the prison system gives the government mucho bucks. not just the profits off prisoners making products for the outside(which is y they make it hard to evolve past a man with a record). the media likes to throw around all the statistics about cost but no mention of gains let alone gov subsidization for un related offices and projects. if it really cost too much to lock someone up they would be more lax on laws. thirdly on the death penalty.....Kill em all those who confess are guilty and those that dont are trained guilty. jking its a tough one as there is not only innocents but grey area convicts. I knew a guy that was 19 and had a hs sweetheart of 17. one bad breakup later and he has a jacket for life. he evan had a old fashion lynch mob vandalize his house because they saw him registered and thought he diddled a 8 yr old. there will always be cracks in the system. under some of your opinions due to the many he would die. its easy to say f**k em when you dont know the guy, he is a devout mormon for christ sake, thats y the breakup is he was old enough to go legit in life and she didnt want to step up to the plate. the world has gotten crazy. if you dont believe me then ask a grand parent or watch black and white tv it amazes me when i compare my kids Saturday cartoons with dads old tv. If there was an unbeatable lie detector i would say kill every rapist and molester out there. but there isnt. we need to get more personal with cases (have jury and judge see the scene and talk to neighbors and friends). just watch a layer show and see how bureaucratic the system really is or better yet spend a day at a major court house. its is my layer better then theirs, not am i guilty. and once convicted GET THEM REHABILITATED!!! there arnt many programs at all to educate and reform. I see news about them all the time but living in the getto i know they dont exist. the only way people get educated is shawshank redemption style and most of that is for review board looks. an alternative to death penalty is let them fight the wars. lastly STOP USEING DISINFECTANT ON LEATHEL INJECTION!!!!!! its absurd. well thats it for now feel free to debate over this controversy but please what ever you do dont actually get active and petition or write officials with your opinion. things might then change lolol.
ps y is there a penis and condom smiley in the list to the right ...really....thats top on the list?