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Calienta
31st October 2006, 11:01 PM
I have been thinking about this issue for a long time - usually discuss it with my mum or a friend, but I was wanting a bunch more opinions on the subject or even to raise awareness maybe?


I don't know about where you live, but where I live if you abuse an animal you'll get a slap on the wrist and maybe a fine. Now, for anybody who's studied psychology, you know as well as I do that many serial killers and the like have been shown to practice when they were younger on animals. Hurting an animal requires a certain amount of detachment, maybe a lack of compassion, empathy, or something vitally human at least. If you can stand an animal squealing in pain, then you're a sick person. I don't know why a bigger deal isn't made of this, possibly jail time, when you consider that somebody who can mutilate an animal or at least make it suffer purposely - could at some point move onto bigger things.

And even if they could never do it to a human - this is an animal with feelings we're talking about. Nothing deserves to be subjected to pain simply because it can't tell you it hurts. In no way does it mean it feels it any less.

tca
31st October 2006, 11:28 PM
People here who do sick shit to animals get jail time

Calienta
31st October 2006, 11:32 PM
Good! We had a guy here who dragged a rottweiler on a leash behind his car going about 30 kph .. forced it to run along. The pads on the bottoms of its feet were completely worn off :(

That kind of shit is disgusting and should be punished and the guy should have to take therapy, or something.

nfc
31st October 2006, 11:32 PM
I used to work in an abattoir. What does that make me ?:jay1: :DH:

tca
31st October 2006, 11:34 PM
Good! We had a guy here who dragged a rottweiler on a leash behind his car going about 30 kph .. forced it to run along. The pads on the bottoms of its feet were completely worn off :(

That kind of shit is disgusting and should be punished and the guy should have to take therapy, or something.

thats fucked up :S :|

a guy here who brutally hurt a cat, broke its legs, set fire to it, stomped on it etc, receieved about 5 years prison for it

Calienta
31st October 2006, 11:37 PM
I'm really pleased with the way Australia deals with this.


What about other countries?

Taste of Britain
31st October 2006, 11:40 PM
i hear that in china they just eat any animal how ever it dies. be it a cow killed humanly, or a dog they gets stomped on? :(

Beli
31st October 2006, 11:46 PM
Good! We had a guy here who dragged a rottweiler on a leash behind his car going about 30 kph .. forced it to run along. The pads on the bottoms of its feet were completely worn off :(

That kind of shit is disgusting and should be punished and the guy should have to take therapy, or something.

now that is really weird! we had almost the exact crime here. except it was a puppy :( about 6 months old. the guy was tired of it barking or something. the end result was the guy got 6 months in prison and i think a $5000 fine. i had no problem telling people when i think they are being abusive to their animals.
and good point about the serial killers. animal abuse and late bed wetting are two classic signs of potential serial killers.
my brother is a cop and was telling me a story about a puppy that was killed. it was gutted and then it's tail was cut off and used to "write" gang signs on the person's front door. the remains of the puppy were left on the door step :( the puppy belonged to the home owner. all cops went on a hunt until they found the bad guy. and put him in jail. uhm yeah straight to jail....

Calienta
1st November 2006, 12:13 AM
What about Premarin mares Beli - do you consider that abuse? And waht about puppy mills? To me both those things are abusing the animals.

Beli
1st November 2006, 12:23 AM
What about Premarin mares Beli - do you consider that abuse? And waht about puppy mills? To me both those things are abusing the animals.
both are definately abuse. for those that don't knw about Premarin farms, let me just tell you. female horses, mares, are forced to have many babies. their urine is collected and made into Premarin which is a medication. the typical Premarin mare's life goes like this. they start haveing babies at about 3, which would be a 12 or 13 y/o girl in human years. they get to spend the first part of their pregnancy *hopefully* out in the pasture. during the latter part of their pregnancy they are kept in small stalls tied up and have a urine collection bag attached to them. this goes on for several months until the baby is born. then the mare is impregnated again about 9 days after the baby is born. and the cyle starts again. the babies are usually sent to the slaughter house. and when the mares are done being useful, they are also sent to slaughter.
and the thing that really pisses me off about this... the medication is VERY dangerous!! there are much safer medications but they are more expensive to produce....

miemio
1st November 2006, 01:10 AM
:( thats so terrible, I dont understand how people can sleep at night if they are responsible for things like that!

Im not sure what kind of punishment you get for animal abuse here, but I know that "the right to have animals" can be taken from you. Bestiality is also prohibited here(no place for jacx then..), and I believe you get a fine for hurting animals, not sure if you get sent to jail or not.

Recently there has been a case in the media about a catmurderer in some town here. This person kidnaps cats and murders them :( I hope that when they find the perpetrator he/she/they get tatooed with "catmurderer" on their forehead so that I never have to encounter them, Im sure the line between killing cats easily and killing humans easily are pretty thin. :/

Beli
1st November 2006, 01:34 AM
i am banned from watching shows such as "Animal Cops Houston" because my husband got tired of me crying over the injured animals :( i guess i have a rather sensitive personality. i have 6 horses and of the 6 only 2 are ridable. the other 4 are rescues. one Premarin mare, one old grandma horse, 2 ex-barrel racing horses. i can't take in anymore but i still try to help other sad horses find homes. one person who is my total HERO is Casey O'Conner of the Golden Carrott. she takes in abused horses and mostly elderly horses. she survives on donations only. check out her site.
http://www.thegoldencarrot.org/

Colonel Sanders
1st November 2006, 07:05 AM
I've always taken animal abuse quite hard and hate every aspect of it. Maybe it's the family I come from not sure.

Anyways about 11 years ago my dad caught some guy abusing a dog, breaking it's bones, cutting on it, in a shed. My dad just lost it and he ran up to the guy and beat the living shit out of him for a good 15 minutes from what I understand, nearly killing the man, and definitely disfiguring him.

We went to court over it and my dad faced a pretty large fine, parole, and 5 years Jail time.

The judge was pretty lenient however, mainly because he had 3 children and a wife, so he got off with only parole.

When I got older I talked to my dad a little bit about the incident. And you gotta understand back then he was a strong Christian, went to church everyday and never cussed in his life.

He told me that there were 2 things in life that he could never stand, and when he saw them it made him furious. They were abusive husbands and animal abusers.

He said that when he caught that man in the act he basically just lost it, and was running in there to hurt the man as much as possible, even to kill him. He said he was lucky that the man did not die or else he would be in jail but he still told me he felt no remorse for what he did, or anything that hes done before to those people.

It is a violent reality what people to do these animals and if it were up to me the people abusing animals would receive the same treatment as if they broke a humans legs and burned their bodies. I myself have taken action against a couple people that I saw abusing animals, nowhere near the degree of what my dad did but still I get furious over the same thing and when I do see it nothing but wanting to hurt or kill the person doing it goes through my mind, just glad I am able to control that, and my dad now as well, or I would have gone to jail by now.

Loopus
3rd November 2006, 04:24 AM
I don't know if you guys remember the show "Animal Precint" but I grew up with Officer Joanne Sandano. Some of the stories she could tell you are heartbreaking. She has personally adopted a few rescues, including a cat that was set on fire, the poor thing is still terrified of any human but her. Another friend of mine works at North Shore Animal League, a no kill shelter here in NY. Please read this story about an abused pit bull. http://www.nsalamerica.org/feature/pitbull/ and http://www.nsalamerica.org/feature/pitbull/openletter.html . I have personally owned two pit bull's and have found them to be sweet, and affectionate, with the bigger one (80lbs) being an absolute scardy cat. These poor dogs are one of the most abused creatures on the planet, yet no one sticks up for them because they're "dangerous" Just about every dog attack is blamed on them, even though there is usually another breed to blame. It's gotten to the point that some insurance companies will not cover your home if you have one. Anyway, I feel pretty strongly about animals, and these people need to face serious justice, because they take advantage of an innocent life, that can't answer back.

Honeypot
3rd November 2006, 01:22 PM
both are definately abuse. for those that don't knw about Premarin farms, let me just tell you. female horses, mares, are forced to have many babies. their urine is collected and made into Premarin which is a medication. the typical Premarin mare's life goes like this. they start haveing babies at about 3, which would be a 12 or 13 y/o girl in human years. they get to spend the first part of their pregnancy *hopefully* out in the pasture. during the latter part of their pregnancy they are kept in small stalls tied up and have a urine collection bag attached to them. this goes on for several months until the baby is born. then the mare is impregnated again about 9 days after the baby is born. and the cyle starts again. the babies are usually sent to the slaughter house. and when the mares are done being useful, they are also sent to slaughter.
and the thing that really pisses me off about this... the medication is VERY dangerous!! there are much safer medications but they are more expensive to produce....

OMG... That's insane... I never knew that. I've heard of Premarin before, but I'm really not sure what it's for, I'm going to look into it though. But knowing this I will never use Premarin if my doctor tries to prescribe it to me. This is one of the most horrible things I have heard of.

I don't know if you guys remember the show "Animal Precint" but I grew up with Officer Joanne Sandano. Some of the stories she could tell you are heartbreaking. She has personally adopted a few rescues, including a cat that was set on fire, the poor thing is still terrified of any human but her. Another friend of mine works at North Shore Animal League, a no kill shelter here in NY. Please read this story about an abused pit bull. http://www.nsalamerica.org/feature/pitbull/ and http://www.nsalamerica.org/feature/pitbull/openletter.html . I have personally owned two pit bull's and have found them to be sweet, and affectionate, with the bigger one (80lbs) being an absolute scardy cat. These poor dogs are one of the most abused creatures on the planet, yet no one sticks up for them because they're "dangerous" Just about every dog attack is blamed on them, even though there is usually another breed to blame. It's gotten to the point that some insurance companies will not cover your home if you have one. Anyway, I feel pretty strongly about animals, and these people need to face serious justice, because they take advantage of an innocent life, that can't answer back.

I know what you mean about pitbulls. My sister had one, and he was the sweetest dog ever. He was protective, but he never hurt anyone for no reason. He did bite a friend of mine once, but he thought that she was hurting my brother because they were play fighting, and he didn't even really break skin, it was more of just a warning to step off. I've also had many friends who've had pitbulls, and I've never seen anything wrong with them either, they've always been really sweet dogs. The only time that I've ever seen one be aggressive is when they've been abused, and raised for fighting. Which is completely fucked up.

I actually saw a guy having dog fights in his garage once. I confronted him about it, and he didn't even care. I was a teenager at the time, so I was kind of intimidated by the guy, but I called the cops on him. I'm not sure if anything ever came of it. But I know that it is illegal here, so I'm sure that something happened to him. I'm just not sure exactly what the penalties are on animal abuse.

Anyway, I plan on getting a pitbull myself once we get a house. And I don't anticipate it being a problem at all. Even with young children in the house. In my experience they are great dogs, and it really bothers me that they get such a bad rap.

Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream
3rd November 2006, 01:51 PM
all i here is blah blah blah blah.. have any of you ever eaten chicken, beef, fish? do you wear leather clothing? sneakers and jacket? do you have feathered pillows?

if you answer ys to any of the above your hipocrites. is it only animal abuse when it doesnt fit on a bun with cheese?

Tekke
3rd November 2006, 03:33 PM
is it sexual animal abuse when you get milk from a cow? because you have to touch its tits.

seriously here in switzerland the problem is aggressiv dogs eaten babies!:| for those kind of dogs i have to say it'll be a pleasure to give it big kicks befor i take my axe and cut it alive.

i had a friend who like to kik cats, when i discover it, i broked his arm, didn't really wanted to but know he's affraid everytime he see me, like the cats he use to hit......

Colonel Sanders
3rd November 2006, 04:51 PM
all i here is blah blah blah blah.. have any of you ever eaten chicken, beef, fish? do you wear leather clothing? sneakers and jacket? do you have feathered pillows?

if you answer ys to any of the above your hipocrites. is it only animal abuse when it doesnt fit on a bun with cheese?

Once again the words of an idiot enters the debate, which as far as I'm concerned you never entered it seeing as how we were not talking about eating meat, but rather hurting animals PHYSICALLY and in the first person.

If your a vegetarian thats great. BUT if you are a vegetarian because of animal right/animal abuse your a fucking idiot. Believe it or not there is a food chain on this planet, which includes meat products.. and that food chain extends to humans just like every other animal.

Puppy Dogs and Ice Cream
3rd November 2006, 07:31 PM
Once again the words of an idiot enters the debate, which as far as I'm concerned you never entered it seeing as how we were not talking about eating meat, but rather hurting animals PHYSICALLY and in the first person.


well is it ok to mistreat animals in slaughterhouse yet not to kick a dog?

go visit any veal ,chicken turkey or pig farm before you call anyone names

Honeypot
5th November 2006, 05:34 AM
well is it ok to mistreat animals in slaughterhouse yet not to kick a dog?

go visit any veal ,chicken turkey or pig farm before you call anyone names

No it's still not okay to treat animals the way that they do in slaughterhouses either. And that's not the debate here. The point is that we have to let them know that it's not right. It doesn't matter what the circumstance is that these animals are being mistreated, it needs to be stopped.
I do eat meat, but that doesn't mean that I don't believe that these animals deserve to have the best life possible while they are alive.

DnD
5th November 2006, 08:10 AM
if anybody ever tried to hurt my Roger, theyd be in for it!! :@

So Warped
5th November 2006, 08:24 PM
I'm going to hang up all your pets by metal hooks, slit their throats, scoop out the innards and make sausages, chops and black pudding from the bloodhttp://www.xrtheme.com/content/emoticons/Animals/48.gif http://img184.echo.cx/img184/2055/catsiam2lv.gif

Grendel
5th November 2006, 08:31 PM
As long as you leave my sheep alone...

Buckledmac
5th November 2006, 11:23 PM
I used to work in an abattoir. What does that make me ?:jay1: :DH:


a good source of meat ?

Beli
5th November 2006, 11:55 PM
I'm going to hang up all your pets by metal hooks, slit their throats, scoop out the innards and make sausages, chops and black pudding from the bloodhttp://www.xrtheme.com/content/emoticons/Animals/48.gif http://img184.echo.cx/img184/2055/catsiam2lv.gif

/me bans So Warped from this thread. this is in serious discussion. so i will assume that you are serious in your threat against my animals and will arm them appropriately. :@ :@ :@ :@ :@

Calienta
6th November 2006, 12:08 AM
I'd like him to attempt to hang my dogs up by their throats lol :@


But in all seriousness - yeah I eat animals but bringing up an animal for food purposes in no way necessitates giving them a crap life.

So Warped
6th November 2006, 12:41 AM
I'm going to eat your animals and any babies they have.

Colander
6th November 2006, 09:41 AM
I have been thinking about this issue for a long time - usually discuss it with my mum or a friend, but I was wanting a bunch more opinions on the subject or even to raise awareness maybe?


I don't know about where you live, but where I live if you abuse an animal you'll get a slap on the wrist and maybe a fine. Now, for anybody who's studied psychology, you know as well as I do that many serial killers and the like have been shown to practice when they were younger on animals. Hurting an animal requires a certain amount of detachment, maybe a lack of compassion, empathy, or something vitally human at least. If you can stand an animal squealing in pain, then you're a sick person. I don't know why a bigger deal isn't made of this, possibly jail time, when you consider that somebody who can mutilate an animal or at least make it suffer purposely - could at some point move onto bigger things.

And even if they could never do it to a human - this is an animal with feelings we're talking about. Nothing deserves to be subjected to pain simply because it can't tell you it hurts. In no way does it mean it feels it any less.

what a load of cod-psychology. I used to mutilate animals as a kid all the time and I'm not a serial killer. If animals weren't supposed to be hurt by humans they would have opposable thumbs and be able to invent weapons to fight back.

Furyous
6th November 2006, 10:32 AM
Once again the words of an idiot enters the debate, which as far as I'm concerned you never entered it seeing as how we were not talking about eating meat, but rather hurting animals PHYSICALLY and in the first person.

If your a vegetarian thats great. BUT if you are a vegetarian because of animal right/animal abuse your a fucking idiot. Believe it or not there is a food chain on this planet, which includes meat products.. and that food chain extends to humans just like every other animal.


Well, I'd like to chime in here...

My firlfriends family are cattle ranchers. While they treat their anumals just fine there are a few things you need to understand about what it takes to put that meat on your table. First, once a year, we run the cattle through the chutes. Once you've got a young male in the chute, you go ahead and queeze the crap out of him with a metal contraption meant to keep the animal still. Cattle are very powerful animals and can seriously hurt you. Now that we've got 'em squeezed in the chute it's time for shots. Once the shots have been administered, it's time to brand the cattle. This is a very painful process where you burn a specially combination of letters onto the cattle's back side. This must be done in order to ensure that your neighbor doesn't end up with your cattle, and yes, those kind of things do still happen. Then, the males are held in the chute while we prepare to castrate them. Castration is done without anesthetic. It's fairly quick, but can take up to three or so minutes to complete. The cattle go into some serious shock at this point. You can see their eyes dialate, and you can definitely see that they are not enjoying the process. Once this is completed, the cattle are dehorned. Why dehor them you ask? Well, about 15 years ago, my GF's dad was load some cattle up into a trailer and one of them stuck him all the way through. He nearly died. He never dehorned any of his cattle before that, but now, it's not even an option. To dehorn the cattle you take a pair of clippers, and snip the tips off. The horns usually start squirting blood everywhere. It's pretty messy. Because I was the last healthy, strong man left around the farm, I was put on the doors to the chute. I had to tand and watch this all go on, and being that I was up near the head of the cattle, I walked away with blood all over me.

Please don't get me wrong here. I have my own personal animals, and I love them like any of the rest of my family. My bulldog loves to sleep in my bed... I have a very hard time with the whole roundup business, and it makes me sick to my stomach to watch the castration. BUT, this is standard practice, and it's what it takes to get that meat to market. SOOOO, Tung is not all that wrong. The cattle on my GF's family's farm are treated extremely well. Most of their life is spent out in the pastures, or up on her uncles ranch in the hills. This is just the reality behind farming. It's pretty easy for us to stick the meat in our mouths and not think about what it took to get it on our plate, but that's how it happens. So, for all of you flaming Tung, and claiming to be against this sort of thing, this is something you ought to think about a little more.

I also agree that farming, and beating an animal just to beat it are two totally different things, but both can be pretty brutal. I also still eat meat myself. I just respect what it took to get it on my plate, A LOT more now....

Colonel Sanders
6th November 2006, 12:41 PM
Oh yeah no doubt. I am very well aware of the whole process and realize it can be pretty brutal. However I was stressing the distinction between hurting human pets, or animals that are being hurt for no reason other than to be hurt. NOT cattle that serves as mans food. Tung made no such distinction in his statement.

Loopus
6th November 2006, 11:36 PM
Actually Tung has a good point, and even though it makes me somewhat of a hypocrite, I refuse to eat veal. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing in life like a nice juicy slab of porterhouse, but veal just seems wrong, as does fois gras. I even tried to do the vegetarian thing, but I couldn't do it for more than a year. I also enjoy fishing. The thing is that I have a belief that if you are going to do something like hunt or fish, don't kill just to kill, eat the meat, or donate it to someone who will. In NY state they have a program, I think it's called "hunters helping the hungry" where they donate meat to shelters for others to live on. At least this way, the animal is being used for a noble purpose, other than being stuffed.

Beli
16th November 2006, 02:54 AM
i just got this email...when she says auction..it means they will be sent for slaughter. most of the PMU farms are in Canada. if you know someone who has a way to take in a horse.....please, please pass on this info. :(

This week we received phone calls from three of the PMU ranchers that we are working with, telling us that they cannot wait much longer to get their foals placed. Winter has come early in Alberta this year, and there is not enough grass to leave the mares and foals on pasture.

They have decided to wean their foals at the end of this month. Shortly after that the foals that have not been adopted, from these three ranches, will go to an auction. Some will go to a local horse sale, others may be taken to a more specific breed auction (such as the Quarterhorses).

The Animali Farm will do all that it can to place the foals through the end of this month. If you are able to adopt, please email or call us. Please keep in mind that there is only one full time person in the office, if we don't get right back with you try again.

There are over 100 foals needing homes by the end of the month. Below is a brief list of the foals with a deadline. A few mares are in the same situation.

APPALOOSAS: There are about 50 appaloosa foals still needing homes. Quite a few of them are colored appaloosas, and they can be registered. This ranch is going out of the horse breeding business this year. They are also selling their mares and stallions, but they can give them a little bit more time. The foals have to go at the end of the month.

QUARTERHORSES: There are still 25 registered Quarterhorse foals needing homes. Their pedigrees include such sires as Doc Bar, Old Sorrel, Bueno Chex, Poco Bueno, King and Leo. In addition to that there are some really nice colors (Buckskin, Roan, Palomino).

DRAFT CROSSES: There are still 7 of Kings babies needing homes, all but one of them are pinto! These babies are ¾ Draft ¼ Paint and will mature 16+ hands. King is the sire of some of our most popular horses over the past few years. This may be the last year that you can get one of his foals. There are also three Blue Roan Quarterhorse/Light Draft crosses still needing homes. These foals should mature 15.2-16 hands and be wonderful riding horses. There is even one Canadian/Lt. Draft cross foal (Jewell's baby) still needing a home.

FJORD CROSSES: There are 6 fjord crosses left. These are some of our favorite horses, in fact we hope to start driving Cheryl's Fjord (Tennessee Ernie Fjord) as soon as this rush is over. These cute horses mature to about 14.2 hands, and are stout. They have the sweetest, calmest personalities and are often used in therapeutic riding programs. They are born wearing a fawn coat, and shed out to look just like their mothers.

There are also two draft cross mares that need homes right away. They are not in foal, and the rancher will not be keeping them over the winter. One is Nutmeg, a red roan Belgian cross. We have tried to find her a home for two years, and are worried that she may not get one. The other is Jip a grulla Fjord/Percheron cross. Jip is about 14.2 hands and lovely.

To see all of the horses that need homes immediately go to our website, www.theanimalifarm.com and click on the button at the top which says, “Horses with November 30, 2006 Deadline". This will take you to a section of our site where you can look at just those horses. If you are a frequent visitor to our site remember to refresh your browser to get the latest version of the site. We are posting new information daily.

Please feel free to forward this email to your horse friends. The only way these babies will get adopted is if enough people know about them.

If you are able to adopt, please call us at 805-938-0174. Please remember we are in California, and call during business hours. Please leave a message if we do not answer. The machine picks up if we are on the phone with another adopter. We will call you back.

Your donations are also appreciated. We use donations to reduce the fees on horses that are running out of time. At a time like this you can really make a difference, even if you cannot adopt a horse. No amount is too small, this email is going to thousands of people and if everyone just gave a little we could make a huge difference.

Thank you very much.

Jennifer Johns
Cheryl Forbes
Directors
The Animali Farm
3401 Tepusquet Rd.
Santa Maria, CA 93454
805-938-0174
www.theanimalifarm.com
Animali@aol.com

THE ANIMALI FARM IS A 501(c)3, nonprofit organization. We focus on placing horses no longer needed by the PMU (Pregnant Mare Urine) industry. The industry has dramatically reduced production since women have reduced their use of Premarin. The Animali Farm has found homes for nearly 1000 “Premarin” horses in the past 4 years. We have done this by helping a handful of PMU ranchers in one small town in Alberta find homes for their horses after they lost their PMU contracts. We are not a large organization, just two women and a small group of volunteers. It has been a long haul, and there is more to do.
We count on your support to keep us going!

Loopus
16th November 2006, 03:10 AM
can these horses be ridden?

Beli
16th November 2006, 03:20 AM
can these horses be ridden?
you can start riding them at abour age 2 1/2 or 3 but they are still babies now. just love on them for a year or two. and if you get a retired mom, she may not be able to be ridden due to being forced to have mutiple babies without a break :S breaks my heart so see these beautiful animals abused so that people can get rich.

So Warped
16th November 2006, 05:46 AM
Can you not just eat them?

Cowboy From Hell
16th November 2006, 06:41 AM
ok, I'm with you all that animal abuse sucks. the followin is for debate:

what happens with cattle or pork, I mean the thing there is that there is not a sentimental bond because they are unusual house pets like cats or dogs, but
what if I kill one of your pets being a dog, a cat or a horse so my starving family can eat?

which leads me to another issue:

animal abuse sucks ass, but shouldn´t we be more worried about human abuse world wide?

Honeypot
16th November 2006, 07:32 AM
i just got this email...when she says auction..it means they will be sent for slaughter. most of the PMU farms are in Canada. if you know someone who has a way to take in a horse.....please, please pass on this info. :(

This week we received phone calls from three of the PMU ranchers that we are working with, telling us that they cannot wait much longer to get their foals placed. Winter has come early in Alberta this year, and there is not enough grass to leave the mares and foals on pasture.

They have decided to wean their foals at the end of this month. Shortly after that the foals that have not been adopted, from these three ranches, will go to an auction. Some will go to a local horse sale, others may be taken to a more specific breed auction (such as the Quarterhorses).

The Animali Farm will do all that it can to place the foals through the end of this month. If you are able to adopt, please email or call us. Please keep in mind that there is only one full time person in the office, if we don't get right back with you try again.

There are over 100 foals needing homes by the end of the month. Below is a brief list of the foals with a deadline. A few mares are in the same situation.

APPALOOSAS: There are about 50 appaloosa foals still needing homes. Quite a few of them are colored appaloosas, and they can be registered. This ranch is going out of the horse breeding business this year. They are also selling their mares and stallions, but they can give them a little bit more time. The foals have to go at the end of the month.

QUARTERHORSES: There are still 25 registered Quarterhorse foals needing homes. Their pedigrees include such sires as Doc Bar, Old Sorrel, Bueno Chex, Poco Bueno, King and Leo. In addition to that there are some really nice colors (Buckskin, Roan, Palomino).

DRAFT CROSSES: There are still 7 of Kings babies needing homes, all but one of them are pinto! These babies are ¾ Draft ¼ Paint and will mature 16+ hands. King is the sire of some of our most popular horses over the past few years. This may be the last year that you can get one of his foals. There are also three Blue Roan Quarterhorse/Light Draft crosses still needing homes. These foals should mature 15.2-16 hands and be wonderful riding horses. There is even one Canadian/Lt. Draft cross foal (Jewell's baby) still needing a home.

FJORD CROSSES: There are 6 fjord crosses left. These are some of our favorite horses, in fact we hope to start driving Cheryl's Fjord (Tennessee Ernie Fjord) as soon as this rush is over. These cute horses mature to about 14.2 hands, and are stout. They have the sweetest, calmest personalities and are often used in therapeutic riding programs. They are born wearing a fawn coat, and shed out to look just like their mothers.

There are also two draft cross mares that need homes right away. They are not in foal, and the rancher will not be keeping them over the winter. One is Nutmeg, a red roan Belgian cross. We have tried to find her a home for two years, and are worried that she may not get one. The other is Jip a grulla Fjord/Percheron cross. Jip is about 14.2 hands and lovely.

To see all of the horses that need homes immediately go to our website, www.theanimalifarm.com and click on the button at the top which says, “Horses with November 30, 2006 Deadline". This will take you to a section of our site where you can look at just those horses. If you are a frequent visitor to our site remember to refresh your browser to get the latest version of the site. We are posting new information daily.

Please feel free to forward this email to your horse friends. The only way these babies will get adopted is if enough people know about them.

If you are able to adopt, please call us at 805-938-0174. Please remember we are in California, and call during business hours. Please leave a message if we do not answer. The machine picks up if we are on the phone with another adopter. We will call you back.

Your donations are also appreciated. We use donations to reduce the fees on horses that are running out of time. At a time like this you can really make a difference, even if you cannot adopt a horse. No amount is too small, this email is going to thousands of people and if everyone just gave a little we could make a huge difference.

Thank you very much.

Jennifer Johns
Cheryl Forbes
Directors
The Animali Farm
3401 Tepusquet Rd.
Santa Maria, CA 93454
805-938-0174
www.theanimalifarm.com
Animali@aol.com

THE ANIMALI FARM IS A 501(c)3, nonprofit organization. We focus on placing horses no longer needed by the PMU (Pregnant Mare Urine) industry. The industry has dramatically reduced production since women have reduced their use of Premarin. The Animali Farm has found homes for nearly 1000 “Premarin” horses in the past 4 years. We have done this by helping a handful of PMU ranchers in one small town in Alberta find homes for their horses after they lost their PMU contracts. We are not a large organization, just two women and a small group of volunteers. It has been a long haul, and there is more to do.
We count on your support to keep us going!

Thanks so much for the info Beli... I just copied this and posted it in a bulletin on Myspace. So hopefully it will get to someone who can help. I totally would adopt one (or even all) of them if I could. But unfortunately I live in an apartment, and I don't think I could afford a horse anyway.

Anyway, I hope that it reaches enough people in time. I am still appaulled that this even goes on, but hopefully my bulletin will help at least one horse :D

Beli
16th November 2006, 07:38 AM
Thanks so much for the info Beli... I just copied this and posted it in a bulletin on Myspace. So hopefully it will get to someone who can help. I totally would adopt one (or even all) of them if I could. But unfortunately I live in an apartment, and I don't think I could afford a horse anyway.

Anyway, I hope that it reaches enough people in time. I am still appaulled that this even goes on, but hopefully my bulletin will help at least one horse :D
Thanks so much!! i truly appreciate people like you who take time to pass it on. i hope that they all find homes. they are so cute when they are little :)

Beli
25th November 2006, 08:22 PM
thank you to everyone who passed it on about these horses. so many have found homes. my dad said no more for me right now. i guess that 6 horses is enough for us to take in. but my birthday is coming up so i have hope :)!!