A6 - Point Blank - Help??

[Sancho]

So here I was saving up for a jacket. Yeah, I had the money record, big deal, it happens. When out of nowhere, I get some "Help":

point blank (#232) jumped you and weasled $1,328,048, 0 junkies and 1 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 0 guns and 942 vest, but destroyed 899 guns and 0 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Dec. 6 9:03]

point blank (#232) jumped you and weasled $1,900,605, 1 junkies and 4 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 0 guns and 954 vest, but destroyed 1,171 guns and 0 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Dec. 6 9:02]

point blank (#232) jumped you and weasled $1,771,347, 3 junkies and 6 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 0 guns and 701 vest, but destroyed 1,051 guns and 0 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Dec. 6 9:01]

and the message:
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From: point blank (#232) [DELETE] [REPLY] [Wed. Dec. 6 9:03]
hey man .... i know you are part of us ... i jumped ya to try nd knock ya off the record. You held most money record.
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I am curious how others feel about this form of "Help".

[Timoteo32]

That sounds really dumb to me

[GloryFreak]

That is a crock of shit. He gladly used you for his own gain.

[the squid of despair]

Total shit and he he deserves to be removed from the cartel. If your cartel is anything like my last one though he will get overall and praised for stabbing you in the back...

[Calienta]

Jump him back and tell him thanks for holding it temporarily for you (Y)

[Gringo]

Player Name: point blank (#232)
Worth: $1,660,599
Rank: 156
Cartel: COVNTD (#5)

Ok so what cartel are you part of just out of interest?

Thats pretty crappy what he did especially if he is one of your gunners but there are lessons to be learned here:

1) Dont Hoard money for larger coat, wait till you earn enough in one day so u dont leave yourself exposed! The chances are you would have been hit anyway, but beeing hit form ure own pisses you off more.........

2) Dont be part of a cartel with pricks like these!!!

[point blank]

well I guess nobody knows enough to stay off the records when you have a gunning cartel in the same room as your worth cartel.

It hurts your gunners by lessening the number of targets and it hurts you cause if you hold a record YOU'RE GONNA GET JUMPED. Simple fact.

now would you rather loose that cash, labspace, and junkies to a RIVAL cartel or would you rather loose it to an ally who at the end of the round could be transfered to the main worth cartel for the win?

I was never an ass about it, and with 100 tokens I could have hit him A LOT more than just 3 times. But I didn't.

[hardcore G]

he fucked you over what awanker jus to gett on records i reckon you wanna turn guner and save a bit and jus counter him and fuck him like the bitch he is lol.

what a little bitch .

[Sancho]

I was never an ass about it, and with 100 tokens I could have hit him A LOT more than just 3 times. But I didn't.

Jumping me in first place is being an ass about it. Sending a note telling me you are helping me, is being a total ass about it. Not jumping me enough to hospitalize me ... priceless.

Had you sent me a PM, you would have known what the deal was and that the record would be disappearing in a few hours.

My vote: You jumping me was wrong.

[cookedup]

wow with help like that... please never help me! lol

[Deadwood]

Either way your gonna get jumped when on most money if gunners are in range. Who cares if its by a noob in your cartel or a noob in some other cartel ???

[Ramshackle]

wow. sancho you actually dont realize what he was doing? Point Blank was fixing your fuck up. You sound like you weren't expecting anyone to hit you, even though you were on the money record. The money record is the premium target for all gunners early in the round. I think you guys just like having a reason to bitch at something or somebody, but I could be wrong. Try to think outside the box, kiddos, things aren't always what they seem.

[Calienta]

Way I see it, if I hit the record I'd rather be jumped by somone in my own gunning cart than someone elses. You know that the gunners in your own cart aren't going to use that money to keep up with you and jump you later, or boost themselves up to jump your higher worthers.


Well... supposedly you know that . Anything can happen though :| naz did that to Daqqs who were on the record and look what happened .. They booted him :O (a)

[the squid of despair]

well I guess nobody knows enough to stay off the records when you have a gunning cartel in the same room as your worth cartel.

It hurts your gunners by lessening the number of targets and it hurts you cause if you hold a record YOU'RE GONNA GET JUMPED. Simple fact.

now would you rather loose that cash, labspace, and junkies to a RIVAL cartel or would you rather loose it to an ally who at the end of the round could be transfered to the main worth cartel for the win?

I was never an ass about it, and with 100 tokens I could have hit him A LOT more than just 3 times. But I didn't.

Lontan?

[GloryFreak]

It hurts your gunners by lessening the number of targets and it hurts you cause if you hold a record YOU'RE GONNA GET JUMPED. Simple fact.

now would you rather loose that cash, labspace, and junkies to a RIVAL cartel or would you rather loose it to an ally who at the end of the round could be transfered to the main worth cartel for the win?

The fact the you even tried to justify your actions with this comment just makes you even more of an idiot. Please, for the sake of your own cartel, never help anyone again...

[Zeus]

well I guess nobody knows enough to stay off the records when you have a gunning cartel in the same room as your worth cartel.

It hurts your gunners by lessening the number of targets and it hurts you cause if you hold a record YOU'RE GONNA GET JUMPED. Simple fact.

now would you rather loose that cash, labspace, and junkies to a RIVAL cartel or would you rather loose it to an ally who at the end of the round could be transfered to the main worth cartel for the win?

I was never an ass about it, and with 100 tokens I could have hit him A LOT more than just 3 times. But I didn't.


Thats Bullshit. The gunners I gun with dont even bother with MM, and only go for MWJ. If you need to rely on the records board for targets, then your just plain lazy and dont want to do homework with thugs.

[Alc0]

Sancho i would have jumped you x5
point blank carry on twating anyone on records like a tru playa (y)

[Sancho]

Sancho i would have jumped you x5
point blank carry on twating anyone on records like a tru playa (y)

5 times would have at least put me in the hospital so I could not get jumped again today.

[tigerbunny]

it was fucking stupid to hoard money, if ure going for a bigger coat, just save up 150 tokens or whatever and spend them all at once, dont spend some tokens now, then sit on the money record for a few hours and then spend more, u were fucking asking for it by playing stupid like that

[Infernal Abomination]

5 times would have at least put me in the hospital so I could not get jumped again today.

So how many other people jumped you because you were on that record? No, seriously. I want to know.

I think if there's an issue you should talk to Peachyy instead of bitching about it in a thread on the forum. I haven't heard anything about it. So have you even mentioned it to your cabs? The boys I run with are usually in no jump unless on record alliances. They run a bit differently than you're use to in T. D.
As COVNTD is a combined cartel. And if you throw a hissy on here instead of talking to cabs from the game, nothing will be done. I'm not sticking up for Point, but I'm also not bitching about him. Point Blank is one of my boyz. If there's an issue, take the proper channels.

[~Justpeachyy~]

OK.. yeah that will be enough with this whole thread.. No one has contacted anyone properly about this issue. Runnin to the forum to try to make another player look like an ass.... isnt goin anywhere with me or WOLVES. This isnt what Triple D stands for or tolerates. End of discussion, whats done is done.. Sancho... add me to MSN/Yahoo dalynngd@msn.com Point.. let me apologize to you for this public display. COVTD thanks for everything you do for Triple D it's not unnoticed or unappreciated. Thanks.. ~Day~

[seasider]

Carry on jumping the prick PB - he's living in fucking dream world if he thought he could just sit on most money for "a few hours" - a few fucking hours! you're lucky to get ten minutes

And Cali - your post is totally irrelevant, Naz wasn't gunning for daqs he was gunning against them, in a medel room! - What did he think was going to happen? We'd all go 'thanks Naz, yeh you really helped fuck us up in the medal rooms by gunning us rather than playing for the worth cartels, good lad, nice one mate, a real team player, top guy....'

[stigma]

If I were a gunner in that room he would be first one I would jump on money list
I would keep jumping him till I got all his money you dipshits are stupid.
I would rather get tagged by own then another cartel at least cash stay in family

[the squid of despair]

Wow people are thick in here.

On a side note, most good cartels don't have their gunners in the same room with their worth cartel.

[Convicted Felon]

I once had MWJ 4 about 10 seconds and I got jumped! At least the money stayed with a friendly cartel. anyone else would've put you in the hospital! And all that money would work AGAINST you. It would've bought some other gunner alot of guns, and he'd keep coming back to see if you were hoarding again.

[KoN-Po]

wow thats a bastard move...i've bin gunnin my entire dopewars career...and i would never pull that bullshit on my own cartel member especially if he straight up fuckin told you why he was in the records...your officially a backstabbing cunt

[Sancho]

I am impressed by the great variety of thoughts and emotions generated by this post. I did make one major mistake, and that was using PBs name. The thread was never meant to target him/her (sorry, don't know), it was to discuss the topic of jumping members of fraternal cartels. My sincerest apologies for using your name PB.

But now I grow bored ... how do I lock or delete this pile of crap?

[Calienta]

And Cali - your post is totally irrelevant, Naz wasn't gunning for daqs he was gunning against them, in a medel room! - What did he think was going to happen? We'd all go 'thanks Naz, yeh you really helped fuck us up in the medal rooms by gunning us rather than playing for the worth cartels, good lad, nice one mate, a real team player, top guy....'

It's not irrelevant :| I was in the same room and Naz and I were gunning for you guys ... I knew we were cos I spoke to Carol :P

[the squid of despair]

I am impressed by the great variety of thoughts and emotions generated by this post. I did make one major mistake, and that was using PBs name. The thread was never meant to target him/her (sorry, don't know), it was to discuss the topic of jumping members of fraternal cartels. My sincerest apologies for using your name PB.

But now I grow bored ... how do I lock or delete this pile of crap?

Bullshit. Don't apologise for this. If anyone should be apologising it's that piece of shit.

[TraPStaR]

Honestly... i think THE SAME cartel should NEVER jump each other...
But at the same time, lucky it wasnt someone elses cartel...

Gunning is hard to do when people hold the record, but it would be just as ez to PM him and let him know he was on the record and give him a chance...

[Nazkyn]

And Cali - your post is totally irrelevant, Naz wasn't gunning for daqs he was gunning against them, in a medel room! - What did he think was going to happen? We'd all go 'thanks Naz, yeh you really helped fuck us up in the medal rooms by gunning us rather than playing for the worth cartels, good lad, nice one mate, a real team player, top guy....'

I actually jumped the record holders whether Daqqs or not about three times, it was also waaay early in the round so basically no lasting damage atall and then after that I spent the rest of the round gunning Bellows and he quit half-way through the round so that was him (first place in the room making him a lethal gunner) off of Daqqs back, about a day later me, Steff, Ridge, nfc and DC had a conversation in MSN and it was decided that I wasn't being kicked out of Daqqers... so me gunning them for a total of three times (three times in over one year PLAYING for them by the way) wasn't even the reason that I was kicked out. Actually, I even OFFERED to leave in that coversation :)

There was also talk of me not being commited enough to Daqqs -

Just before I was banned from the Daqqs forum I made a junkie calculator, which at the time was exclusive to Daqqs and spent quite a bit of time on it, for Daqqs, I also re-wrote the junkie strat, it might not have been a winning formula but it was more then some Daqqs members were doing :S

Daqqers FTW!! ;)

[point blank]

wow thats a bastard move...i've bin gunnin my entire dopewars career...and i would never pull that bullshit on my own cartel member especially if he straight up fuckin told you why he was in the records...your officially a backstabbing cunt



ummm ya ..... I didn't know why he was on the record thank you very much


thanks for everyone who stuck up for me. Thanks to Peachy for the apology. I apologized twice for jumping him in the first place. Like I said. I had enough tokens to hospitalize him, yet I didn't, cause I knew for sure if I did he woulda bitched, which is why I only hit him 3 times.

I've only responded to this once before this in an effort to avoid a huge issue over a stupid incident. let this be the end of it.

[SNOWBLIND]

I am not going to quote anyone cause there were too many to quote. All I want to say is that is very stupid on the gunner half. Cause just cause you are on there now, doesn't mean you would be there later. Someone else could have gotten it and not noticed it at all that they were on it, or a low, low hoarder could of gotten it and not cared. It is stupid for a gunner to gun one of there own, and yes you should still try to stay off mm and wait for your jacket. There that was my 2 cents. PS, always talk to your cartel cabs or find out who to talk to.

[tca]

fuck off you dickheads, gunners hit people who are on records if they are in range, if they don't, they are total twats

you dumb cunt noobs, don't have gunners protecting a worth cartel in the first place, you'd be better off with 40 worthers then 20/20

naz, you should never jump a cartel your loyal too, i don't give a fuck who you think you are, bottom line, you don't fuck your own players, you were a daqqer, not a red

the rest of you who reckon anything apart from point blank being completey in his rights as a gunner, go fuckin die and do us all a favour, k? thanks

[not_a_hpa]

I am not going to quote anyone cause there were too many to quote. All I want to say is that is very stupid on the gunner half. Cause just cause you are on there now, doesn't mean you would be there later. Someone else could have gotten it and not noticed it at all that they were on it, or a low, low hoarder could of gotten it and not cared. It is stupid for a gunner to gun one of there own, and yes you should still try to stay off mm and wait for your jacket. There that was my 2 cents. PS, always talk to your cartel cabs or find out who to talk to.

I have played with PB, and they have a strict "stay off the records policy", they post it in cartel news and in the discussion. It has nothing to do with stupid or not. When it becomes a problem is when they are jumping you when you are on records or not. Some people forget that to keep a spot light off of you stay off records.
It just looks like some people in here just want to keep others ranged up (not you snow :P )

[steff]

/me has not read thread but searched for "steff" and found Nazkyn's post

Naz, 10 junkies stole on day 1 of a 31 day B game results in up to $900k from final worth. That's pretty major damage for 10 measley junkies.

[Nazkyn]

I can remember that round, I was just gunning the money record until I started counter-gunning for Daqqs.

And Jesse, i'm not saying it was right... I know it wasn't right, it just obviously isn't the reason I was kicked out as Seasider said it was.

[~Justpeachyy~]

fuck off you dickheads, gunners hit people who are on records if they are in range, if they don't, they are total twats

you dumb cunt noobs, don't have gunners protecting a worth cartel in the first place, you'd be better off with 40 worthers then 20/20

naz, you should never jump a cartel your loyal too, i don't give a fuck who you think you are, bottom line, you don't fuck your own players, you were a daqqer, not a red

the rest of you who reckon anything apart from point blank being completey in his rights as a gunner, go fuckin die and do us all a favour, k? thanks


we have over 90 players in A6.. not 20/20 not 40/20 we have 60/30 ..thats the only reason.. this is happening.. the gunners have targets.. they just get anxious and start hittin record holders.. with out checkin em out.. Back to hitting targets..this problem will go away.. ~Day~

[Rexel]

LOL at this thread

'staying on cash records to save money for a coat' quality (Y)

[seasider]

I can remember that round, I was just gunning the money record until I started counter-gunning for Daqqs.

And Jesse, i'm not saying it was right... I know it wasn't right, it just obviously isn't the reason I was kicked out as Seasider said it was.

cali said it was not me - i was just pointing out why her post wasn't relevant to this thread

[Nazkyn]

cali said it was not me - i was just pointing out why her post wasn't relevant to this thread

Then a simple 'wrong thread ch00b' would have done :P

[seasider]

It was an inaccurate comparison.

[MIKETALLICA]

thats just bad Dopewarsmanship. Shame, Shame, Shame.

[steff]

MF yoyu'd have loved the older B games. When people literally did hoard from day 1 until they had the 192k coat. You got so much cash and junkies the first few days. :P

[Infernal Abomination]

wow. all i can say is........



wow.

[Rexel]

MF yoyu'd have loved the older B games. When people literally did hoard from day 1 until they had the 192k coat. You got so much cash and junkies the first few days. :P


maybe everyone should start doing that again then - and just ask the nice gunners not to jump them(a)

[Jacx]

funny shit.

some of u missed the point...if ur doing worth and saving cash..u need a cover for the money record...if im not the cover...i would rather my own gunners took me off before someone elses did.

its a used team strat..granted uu lot might not do it, but some of my carts have used the strat and it can work well

[Phuquit]

Sancho and Point Blank are *both* retards...

Sancho - I don't care *why* you had the money. You were the record holder, and you paid the price for your stupidity.
Point Blank - you fucking idiot... When you're gunning the people you're supposed to be protecting, just send them the old "Oops - wrong number" message and fill your fucking boots like the rest of us...

[~Justpeachyy~]

Sancho and Point Blank are *both* retards...

Sancho - I don't care *why* you had the money. You were the record holder, and you paid the price for your stupidity.
Point Blank - you fucking idiot... When you're gunning the people you're supposed to be protecting, just send them the old "Oops - wrong number" message and fill your fucking boots like the rest of us...


Priceless

[Barnes27]

Just have everyone in the Cartel rip him/ her a new one. Over and Over and Over, and watch their numbers get lower and lower.(y)
So here I was saving up for a jacket. Yeah, I had the money record, big deal, it happens. When out of nowhere, I get some "Help":

point blank (#232) jumped you and weasled $1,328,048, 0 junkies and 1 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 0 guns and 942 vest, but destroyed 899 guns and 0 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Dec. 6 9:03]

point blank (#232) jumped you and weasled $1,900,605, 1 junkies and 4 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 0 guns and 954 vest, but destroyed 1,171 guns and 0 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Dec. 6 9:02]

point blank (#232) jumped you and weasled $1,771,347, 3 junkies and 6 sq. ft. of lab space from you!
In the battle you lost 0 guns and 701 vest, but destroyed 1,051 guns and 0 vests from your enemy.
[HIDE] [Wed. Dec. 6 9:01]

and the message:
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From: point blank (#232) [DELETE] [REPLY] [Wed. Dec. 6 9:03]
hey man .... i know you are part of us ... i jumped ya to try nd knock ya off the record. You held most money record.
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I am curious how others feel about this form of "Help".

[Infernal Abomination]

I was foolish I admit, to trust that PB was doing the right thing, was silly of me. Peachyy I'm sorry I've ruined our gunner merger. I thought I could trust my gunners not to jump their own cartels. Specially after it was explained that we were part of Triple D. My apologies to anyone in Triple D.

The rest of you lot. Go ahead and do whatever it is you're going to do as far as my rep is concerned. I'm seriously sick of trying to worry about who is pissed off at me, and who's got my back. No one ever has my back, except Mousie, EMFS, and Wild Turkey, so FUCK EM ALL. LET GOD SORT EM OUT!