Alex Rodriguez will break Aaron/Bonds HR record

[hoos]

Who thinks ARod will end his career as the HR king?

[Buckledmac]

i voted yes he will but i dont really know anything about baseball:$

is babe ruth the current record holder?

(mmmm babe ruth bars *drools*)

[vixen]

Who thinks ARod will end his career as the HR king?


He's had a fast start to the season but put his numbers against David Ortiz so we can get a real bench mark....

[Furyous]

I don't think it'll happen. If the recent heat on the steroids issue doesn't just go away, it'll be a while before anyone approaches those kind of numbers again. I hope Barry loses his chance to attain that title because of his obvious steroid use. He cheated to get there and in my book that makes his "crime" worse than anything Pete Rose ever did!

[Loopus]

I still boo him though!!!

A-Rod is not a true Yankee! nor is Giambi.

Best current Yankee... Posada

[vixen]

you gotta go back to Dave Righetti to find a loyal yankee of our day..

[hoos]

Derek Jeter is a real Yankee, but that's beside the point.

If A-Rod plays another ten years and averages 30 HR's a year, he could def. break the mark I believe. He has avg. over 30/yr in his career so far, and will get there this year (in the first week of May it seems).

[Eyez Neverclear]

I'd wager a months check on him breaking the record. He'll be at 500+ by years end and he's barely 30. I see no reason to assume he doens't have 10 years left in him as he can always switch to DH or 1B at some point..... so 30 hr's per year for 10 years = 800 home runs and thats being crazy to think he'll only average 30. I don't think 900 is out of the realm of possibility

Pujols

[Buckledmac]

i voted yes he will but i dont really know anything about baseball:$

is babe ruth the current record holder?

(mmmm babe ruth bars *drools*)


quoted because everyone ignored my question :(

[TJ60]

no simon, the current record holder is Hank Aaron the guy listed in the thread title. But Barry Bonds right now is coming up on the record fast, but their talking about putting * beside his name for using enhancers.


barry bonds 1987---> http://r_harrison.tripod.com/Agonist/BarryBonds.jpg <----barry bonds 2007

[Buckledmac]

thanks for that jock, so this Bonds guy is a cheat then ?

they should strike him from the records totally then surely

[Furyous]

He is thought to have used steroids Buckle. When the company that was supplying steroids to him and a handful of other famous athletes was caught, he was named, and his HR's fell off drastically immediately after that. hmmm, wierd! I think he deserves equal or worse punishment than what Pete Rose got for betting on baseball!

[hoos]

As much as I dislike Barry Bonds, he probably has the best hand eye coordination in the MLB. His HR's aren't lucky pop-ups that get out of the yard. He has HR swings and connects with them. Yeah it takes a little more power, but he has a smooth even swing and hits the ball where it needs to be hit. Very amazing.

[VikesWookie]

i voted yes but then again i thought Griffey Jr. would be the king before he shipped to Cinci...

[hoos]

i voted yes but then again i thought Griffey Jr. would be the king before he shipped to Cinci...

Its such a shame he's been hurt so much. Though I think he'll be in third by the end of next year (barring no injury). He's got such a pretty swing. I could watch it all day. Barry's looks like it has too much effort in it.

[Eyez Neverclear]

Ahhhhh the Griffey subject. One of any baseball fans in Seattle favorites.

Its been rocky, my feelings for Junior, throughout his career. I first got into baseball the year before he first started playing for the M's and he without a doubt had a huge impact on the love for baseball that I grew. He was damn near god in Seattle to baseball fans. He helped a doomed franchise that lost throughout the 70's and 80's like no professional team ever, and therefore had no fan base. The team was gone and moving to Tampa and other rumored cities til that beautiful swing and infectcious smile sucked everyone in. When he left we all quickly started to hate the fucker for many reasons and a lot of us, even me, kind of laughed when he started struggling and dealing with constant injuries when he went to Cincy.

Years later and without thinking much about it I forgave him and now as Cincy is set to play in Seattle for the first time ever in a month or so I can't imagine not being there. I wanna be there and cheer proudly for the guy on the other team. The game of baseball has meant more in my life than I could ever begin to explain or hope to have anyone understand and it all began with Ken Griffey Junior running down balls in center field and tossing balls into the upper deck in the Kingdome off a bat that seemed as powerful as Poseiden's trident that used to don the Mariner's cap back when he started.

[s4l]

Mr. #24 :D

manny manny manny manny!!

[Jimmy James]

you can't take away bonds records, steroids or not, it's in the past. what about the pitchers that he hit homeruns off of that were also on steroids? there were no steroids tests done, so no one will ever know who did what, unless they choose to tell you so. Jose Canseco is still the first guy to get 40-40 even though he admitted he used steroids.

plus it all comes back to eras, the 90s were the steroids era. babe ruth hit all his homeruns in a segregated league, what if he was batting against Rube Foster, or competing for his records against Josh Gibson?

in the 60s and 70s anabolic steroids were perfectly legal, do you think Hank Aaron didn't use them?

and I think an asterisk is also out of the question after Roger Maris had his removed.

He's had a fast start to the season but put his numbers against David Ortiz so we can get a real bench mark....

Ortiz - 31 years 6 months old - 240 HRs
Arod - 31 years 10 months old - 479 HRs

not much of a bench mark....

[Eyez Neverclear]

you can't take away bonds records, steroids or not, it's in the past. what about the pitchers that he hit homeruns off of that were also on steroids? there were no steroids tests done, so no one will ever know who did what, unless they choose to tell you so.

And lets not forget, that while steriods have always been illegal and banned in most other sports.............. they were not banned in baseball back when Bonds, McGwire and Sosa had their big seasons. One could even easily argue that they were encouraged since they weren't tested for and were so widely known to be used. For basically 10 years it was a stupid family finacial decision not to bulk up with the roids and sign the 10-15mil per year deal. There was no legal ramifications then, why the hell not. Make $millions and leave your name for all historians.

I will never blame the players and will always blame the administration. They turned their back til the very day they no longer could.

[I_Rock_Glocks]

i dont think A-Rod will, i think pitchers will start walkin him more and more if they can.......funny thing i never even thought about til now: 2 of the top 3 HR hitters are lefties, Ruth and Bonds

[Yourmomlikesitinthepooper]

There is something that seems to be forgotten here, baseball is not the same sport it was 10-20 years ago...then it was pure, now it's a business...and although I will always love baseball...players back in the 50's and whatnot used performance enhancing drugs...maybe not designer stuff like we have today...but they were around...some of the greats did also...bottom line...for the most part it's not a huge deal...for the most part, steroids simply add muscle, it's still the player that's doing the swinging, they could spend 3 hours a day in the gym, and get the same added mass (though it would take longer) but just because a player uses, or used roids, shouldn't disqualify him from his profession.

[Eyez Neverclear]

Baseball has always been a business. It just wasn't seen as much of one as far as the players were concerned. The owners have always ran it like a business and up until free agency came into effect 25-30 years ago the owners ran the sport like a sweat shop. They padded their pockets with $millions from the late 1800's til free agency with the players getting very little to nothing.

But I like your point about players having used performance enhancment drugs well before the present. Cheating in general has been apart of the game since the beginning. Whether it be roids, a spitball, stealing signs, turning the fans on in the Metrodome when the other team is batting, or just whiping out the back line in the batters box so batters can stand further back and get a longer look at pitches. Cheating is deeply entrenched in the game and a lot of it is completely accepted. I see no reason this should be treated any differently. Let them cheat, let them die early if thats what they chose, and let us be entertained. After all thats the only reason we watch and pay money to see them. To be entertained.

[VikesWookie]

the conspiracy about the Dome is still out there? lol
i highly doubt someone re-wired the electrics of several blower fans during the game to get a reverse spin of the blade.
what they did was open some of the doors to the outside that were located behind homeplate... ;)