Working Out

[Pirate Hooker with Monkey]

Ok, so I have been consistently working out for about 3 weeks now. (about 4 -5 days a week, at least an hour)

Everyone keeps telling me that it is going to get easier, and that eventually I will feel horrible if I DON'T go to the gym, and that it will make me feel better.

But honestly, I STILL F**KING HATE IT. I have no motivation to get up and go, and when I am there it's like torture counting every minute (SECOND!) on the elliptical or treadmill. It's unpleasant, it hurts, I can't breathe, and I sure as hell don't feel any better when I get home. Plus it is giving me insomnia. I'm all wound up after i work out and can't sleep (AM work outs are not an option)

I know, no pain no gain.....yeah yeah yeah......but when is it going to get easier?

Can anyone tell me how you get yourself motivated?? Is there a trick? Is there some sort of inspirational message you can give me, because I'm about to convert to the church of couch potatos!!! :hehe:

[Expectation]

Studying sleep problems for my master's, I found that most people who exercise with subseqence sleep loss stems from the fact that you are stressing your body out too much.

I think this could also be a reason why you are not enjoying yourself.

if you are saying that you hurt and can't breath, have you thought that you may be doing too much. Start at a lower speed, lower incline, or less "hills". Also, if an hour is too much, go half that. And if you are still sore, do less workouts per week until you body adjusts to your new schedule.

Also, I would recommend AGAINST morning workouts, unless you are a very early morning person. Most people, their muscles are very tight, have little blood flow, and extra fluid in the joints. So, unless you are making a huge point in warming up, it is best to just go in the afternoon or evening after a day of moving around.

[Pirate Hooker with Monkey]

Studying sleep problems for my master's, I found that most people who exercise with subseqence sleep loss stems from the fact that you are stressing your body out too much.

I think this could also be a reason why you are not enjoying yourself.

Wow, very interesting. Thank you. I do tend to push myself too hard when I work out.

if you are saying that you hurt and can't breath, have you thought that you may be doing too much. Start at a lower speed, lower incline, or less "hills". Also, if an hour is too much, go half that. And if you are still sore, do less workouts per week until you body adjusts to your new schedule.

I think I need to maybe switch up my workout. It is soo boring to sit on the treadmill that I push myself extra hard and fast just so I can finish earlier (I work out until I burn at least 400 calories...so the faster I go, the faster I can be done). Maybe I need to find something I enjoy more and won't force myself to speed through.



Many Thanks!

[YetAnotherKitten]

I don't know how many times I've said this.. TREADMILLS SUCK and ellipticals.. Yea so they are "a good over all work out" but you know what?? They are boring as fuck and they make me fucking dizzy!!

My suggestion- see if your gym has classes that you are interested in OR say fuck the gym altogether and search online for other options for physical activity in that area. I hate to say this to you Maj but I've seen your pics and you aren't fat and even if you've "gotten fat"ish since the last pic we saw I don't see why you want to kill yourself ... No pain no gain means when you get your heartrate up push yourself. When you can lift this.. go further.. But if you aren't enjoying it then well its not for you (not for me either!).

Swimming is great, some people take dance classes, some people liek to actually jog .. mm ya know OUTSIDE where you can see things and OF COURSE you should always take music but I know you know that, hehe.

Okay som I shouldn't even be saying this becuase I'm fat and I don't currently excersize but at one point in my life I did intentially plan to excersize and eat right and lost about 20 pounds. Of course that was when I had a meaningless labour intesive job, no school/relationships to think about and a set schedule so it was a tad more convenient. Also, I'm fatter than I was first time I became the plumper version of myself so I'm really not feelin the motivation either. You just gotta kick your own ass I guess or find people who enjoy kicking ass but don;t kill you ahaha.

edit-- well i gues you just realised that hehehe

[PiNkPaNtHeR22432323]

Ok, so I have been consistently working out for about 3 weeks now. (about 4 -5 days a week, at least an hour)

Everyone keeps telling me that it is going to get easier, and that eventually I will feel horrible if I DON'T go to the gym, and that it will make me feel better.

But honestly, I STILL F**KING HATE IT. I have no motivation to get up and go, and when I am there it's like torture counting every minute (SECOND!) on the elliptical or treadmill. It's unpleasant, it hurts, I can't breathe, and I sure as hell don't feel any better when I get home. Plus it is giving me insomnia. I'm all wound up after i work out and can't sleep (AM work outs are not an option)

I know, no pain no gain.....yeah yeah yeah......but when is it going to get easier?

Can anyone tell me how you get yourself motivated?? Is there a trick? Is there some sort of inspirational message you can give me, because I'm about to convert to the church of couch potatos!!! :hehe:



buy sum no-xplode and take sum b4 you go ;)


if you need help with workouts just ask me, i know pretty much every exercise known to man.. i just can't explain sum of them but i can get you a video :)

[Dymond]

Maija.. I've been working out consistently now for almost 6 months. Besides the obvious benefits (the 40+ lbs no longer on my fat ass) the other benefits have rocked; I sleep better, my Blood Pressure is down, I don't get winded looking at a flight of stairs, the sex(seriously), and the overall feeling good that comes from a strong heart. I wish you guys could have seen me at our first softball game. I was playing like a guy half my age. I've never felt better in my life.

In the gym though I get the feeling your like me. You tell yourself 'hey this time don't go so fast, take it easy' and 5-10 minutes later your going like a fiend. I can't stop challenging myself to go faster, to make better time. Its just me. I also have to have music when I workout at the gym, to do so otherwise would be mind-numbing but I find music drives me more than anything else. I get the right music (props to Shiro!) and I am flying, literally.

But maybe you do need some variety? Right now I have divorced myself from the gym for awhile. I am running (do a search on couch to 5K if your just starting, its what I did), Cycling and swimming twice a week. For one I need the time in for the triathlon but also because it feels great being outside. In a weird way its re-energized me.

My only inspirational message to you is 'do what you like'

[Deadwrong]

find a sport you enjoy, or even an activity, and it wont seem like exercise, alot of people swim, dance, play multiple sports or just jog with friends. the motivation from the other people doign the activity will drive you to enjoy it more. as for the insomnia and pains ect, you are just plunging yourself into the exercises all at once, this puts your body into somehting similar to shock, and it can cause your symptoms. ease into things, plan out your week, month, or even year, breaking each time period up into activities, such as between this time and this time, i will run this far, and then this time through this timke i will lift weights. it helps to know what you are doing each day so that your body does not go into "physical activity shock".

[Pirate Hooker with Monkey]

OK...so instead of the gym tonight.....I decided to walk down this huge hill by my house (about a half mile long). When I got to the hill, I thought "Why not try jogging down and walking up?" So I ran the whole way down, just about blew out a lung, then walked back up. As I was walking up I told myslef I would NEVER do that again, but by the time I was almost to the top I had my energy back so I ran down AGAIN and walked back up. :grin:

So what's the point? All those BORING minutes on the elliptical have actually paid off!! About 6 months ago all I could do is walk down and up that hill once, now I am running it!

It is good to see that the excercise is actually doing something to my body (since i'm not really losing weight). I think my body is just set at this weight and I have to find a way to measure my progress through something other than pounds.

I'm going to try something else different tomorrow...I just can't go back to the gym again. Maybe i'll go ice skating on my lunch break.

I'll let you all know if I sleep tonight :(

[tca]

You should jog up and walk down ;)

[Pirate Hooker with Monkey]

You should jog up and walk down ;)


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[tca]

just a suggestion, don't hurt me *hides*

[Expectation]

I'm sorry that I don't know you, but I would suggest that if you have a friend with a dog, ask your friend if you can thier dog out. Dogs are awesome companions to go for fast walks or slow jogs.

Also, with the scale, I think a better way to measure your progress (as you have noticed) is that you can go longer, or quicker.

Also, after a while you will notice your body parts to be more firm. That is why you aren't noticing any lost of weight. You are gaining muscle (which weights more than fat). But as you increase muscle mass you increase your metabolism, which over time will help you lose weight. You can't go on a diet to consistantly lose weight, it must be a life style change.

However, I hope you got yourself a treat after you ran down that hill twice. It is nice to reward youself with something nice. You deserved it.

[Dymond]

LOL OK guys we need to dispel this muscle weighs more than fat.. A lb of fat weighs the same as a lb of muscle. Muscle is denser than fat so a lb of muscle takes up less space than a pound of fat..

[YetAnotherKitten]

uh sorry if I'm helping to derail this thread but thats like saying that a lb of feathers is the same thing as a lb of bricks....

Density is a key factor in determining the mass of an object. The greater the density, the heavier it is.

Say you take a huge bucket and you put it on a scale and fille it up with fat. Then you take the same sized bucket and put it on a different scale and fill it up with muscle, the muscle will be heavier. Becuase of the fact that it is more dense and takes up less space (as you pointed out) the same "amount" is compacted so "more" muscle can be used to fill the bucket.

How does this apply to dieting? Well it alerts those who have training goals by wieght loss that they might actually be more successful than they think when they are looking at the scale.

Depending on the ratio between your fat loss and muscle gain you might not get an accurate account of whats happening in your body.

Although, its much easier just to go by the scale hehe.

[Dymond]

uh sorry if I'm helping to derail this thread but thats like saying that a lb of feathers is the same thing as a lb of bricks....

Density is a key factor in determining the mass of an object. The greater the density, the heavier it is.

Say you take a huge bucket and you put it on a scale and fille it up with fat. Then you take the same sized bucket and put it on a different scale and fill it up with muscle, the muscle will be heavier. Becuase of the fact that it is more dense and takes up less space (as you pointed out) the same "amount" is compacted so "more" muscle can be used to fill the bucket.

How does this apply to dieting? Well it alerts those who have training goals by wieght loss that they might actually be more successful than they think when they are looking at the scale.

Depending on the ratio between your fat loss and muscle gain you might not get an accurate account of whats happening in your body.

Although, its much easier just to go by the scale hehe.

Well said..

[Expectation]

LOL OK guys we need to dispel this muscle weighs more than fat.. A lb of fat weighs the same as a lb of muscle. Muscle is denser than fat so a lb of muscle takes up less space than a pound of fat..

All my point was that the scale could read the same, but your waist size goes down, hence muscle is more dense and less volume than fat.

[peddle07]

buy sum no-xplode and take sum b4 you go ;)


if you need help with workouts just ask me, i know pretty much every exercise known to man.. i just can't explain sum of them but i can get you a video :)
I doubt she wants "massive pumps" that is the main reason for taking xplode. I might try it in a couple of years when they find out how bad it is for you. Im not really into the whole "you need to keep taking it or you lose results" supplements anyway. what i need, i get from food and multivitamins.


Maji, what is it youre trying to acheive anyway? Is there someone that you work out with? There are plenty of ways to provide motivation to exercise.

[Dymond]

All my point was that the scale could read the same, but your waist size goes down, hence muscle is more dense and less volume than fat.

I knew that I was just trying to explain it a bit better. I really think we need to change it to say 'Muscle takes up less room than fat'. What do you think?

[PiNkPaNtHeR22432323]

uh sorry if I'm helping to derail this thread but thats like saying that a lb of feathers is the same thing as a lb of bricks....

Density is a key factor in determining the mass of an object. The greater the density, the heavier it is.

Say you take a huge bucket and you put it on a scale and fille it up with fat. Then you take the same sized bucket and put it on a different scale and fill it up with muscle, the muscle will be heavier. Becuase of the fact that it is more dense and takes up less space (as you pointed out) the same "amount" is compacted so "more" muscle can be used to fill the bucket.

How does this apply to dieting? Well it alerts those who have training goals by wieght loss that they might actually be more successful than they think when they are looking at the scale.

Depending on the ratio between your fat loss and muscle gain you might not get an accurate account of whats happening in your body.

Although, its much easier just to go by the scale hehe.


also people think that eating less will make you lose less weight, When in turn, the more healthy food you eat the higher your metabolism is, which in turn burns fat

[PiNkPaNtHeR22432323]

I might try it in a couple of years when they find out how bad it is for you. Im not really into the whole "you need to keep taking it or you lose results" supplements anyway. what i need, i get from food and multivitamins.




So your saying that creatine which er body already naturally produces is bad for you in the small dosage of the scoop? it also has caffeine which may affect some people differently, most of the ingredients depend on certain people :angel:


~edit~ sorry for double posting i forgot how2 delete posts :$

[Dymond]

Pink there is a term for food like that but it escapes me right now. But its a good point you can still eat ALOT but it has to be the right foods.

[Pirate Hooker with Monkey]

Pink there is a term for food like that but it escapes me right now. But its a good point you can still eat ALOT but it has to be the right foods.
Are you thinking of negative calorie foods.....like green tea and celery?

Some foods actually take more energy to burn off than they have in them.

**Edit: but it takes LARGE amounts of these foods to see the negative calorie effects. That's why Coke is marketing that Enviga "weight loss" drink that supposedly burns more calories than it contains...but you have to drink like 6 a day at at $2 a pop. Brilliant marketing to people who are desperate and uneducated in healthly eating habits**

[peddle07]

So your saying that creatine which er body already naturally produces is bad for you in the small dosage of the scoop? it also has caffeine which may affect some people differently, most of the ingredients depend on certain people :angel:


~edit~ sorry for double posting i forgot how2 delete posts :$
The creatine that first was being produced was creatine monohydrate, hard on the kidneys. Now they are coming out with a better buffered creatine krealkalyne. It's a more buffered solution, so it's actually digested and not just passed through the kidneys giving that extra strain. I know creatine is produced by the body, so is testosterone. I'm sure you've heard of anabolic steroids, a synthetic of testosterone. I know its a big jump for a comparison, but just to prove the point is that synthetics are just that, mimics, and can have adverse effects. Also, your monohydrate you have to drink plenty of water, to lessen the strain on the muslces. This leads to the muscles getting "blown up" with water retention. Whats the point of being a small tank if your strength doesn't fit the size. I'm not trying to be a savior by getting you to stop taking this supplements, I mean thats a personal choice. But you start to sound more and more like a marketers dream.


Maji, have you been keeping a log? It works. Don't cheat on it, that's the key. Record everything. What time you get up, what you eat that day, how much and what you drink, what activity you do, how much sleep you're getting. It's easy to say "I ate balanced and in proportion today" but when you write it down, it becomes more apparent where your faults are. The best part is, when you start to run faster, longer, you'll see that on paper. Don't write down weights, like someone else pointed out, you'll see the results in clothes sizes, and firmness in areas. Starting off and keeping to a plan is key, the results will keep you wanting to keep going. If you find it hard to push yourself to keep exercising, if you find yourself cutting sessions short, if you're a member of a gym, take up classes, aerobics, spin classes, pilates, the list is endless. You seem to have a pretty good idea as to what to do to get in shape, but try different things, what works for one doesn't always work for another.

[Smokie]

hehe finally i can contribute to something.

As your probably all aware iam a football official and one of the demands is that we HAVE to be as fit as the fittest player which means constant hours spent running and working the weights.

Now i for one dont believe in using a gym as 1) its a waste of money and 2) you can do everything there outside on the street.

One of the big things we are told to do is a through (sp) warm up and warm down to get the blood circulating through your body as best as possible. This should consist of gentle stretching and light jogging.

With the warm up and warm down, this should take around 20 minutes leaving you 40 out of the hour to work on your target area such as stamina, cardiovascular workouts or muscle work.

It sounds to me Maij that you want to increase your stamina so you can run longer and do more without getting out of breath whilst loosing a few Lbs at the same time.

That hill you were talking about? sack the gym off and use the hill.

Jog lightly and i stress lightly lol to it then when you reach the top walk to bottom.

The beauty of a hill is that you can do so much with it including endurance and intervals.

Once at the bottom run back to the top, turn around and walk slowly down allowing yourself around 2-3 minutes recovery time (this is the walk).

Do this until you start to feel slightly out of breath then start some intervals.

Pick 3 points along the hill and remember were they are.

Now from the bottom of the hill run to the 1st point walk back, second point back etc.


Do this 3 times then instead of walking back change to jogging until you can run there and back at full tilt.

Lightly jog back home and then do all this again after 24 hours rest

[Shanna]

i need to work out:P :hehe: but i never do caus eim lazy as fuck.:S
naw but iv been walking laps for a few days now.like 2 miles or whatever